@nullmalimnockin @F22_Raptor_0 Bueno, esto es más un juicio filosófico sobre qué modo de producción era la China maoísta que un análisis de la China maoísta en sí misma. Pero supongo que podemos ser algo generales: 🧵 @nullmalimnockin @F22_Raptor_0 En primer lugar, la idea de modo de producción es muy controvertida. Si el modo de producción se refiere a quién controla las fábricas, los bienes de capital, etc. y el socialismo es cuando los trabajadores lo controlan, entonces claro, la China maoísta nunca fue "socialista",

? Foucault was critical of the idea men expressed Gattungswesen (self-expression, individual expression) and structuralist thought (alth. he wasn't a post-structuralist) and he views power as the agglomerated sum of individual relations,

very different to Marx's structuralist 'relations to production' being deterministic of social structures... Foucault rejected both a Marxist and poststructuralist label because of this... (1/n) Konkin says the state is a particular group whom influence relations top-down but individuals still organise in ways that subvert it (counter-economizing) so class is not just a particular group of actors being privileged, although the political capitalist group roughly fits that label (2/n)

very much agreed.

institutional frameworks to an extent shape people. strong and efficient institutions not only bring prosperity but also instill virtues, discourage free-loading, violence, etc. all of which bring instability and with the desecration of private property

https://twitter.com/realEstateTrent/status/1857769354768822425

a chaotic state of reduced production, companies moving out, and ultimately more poverty. permissible theft, especially easily permissible theft means freeloading is implicitly encouraged which not only means the business loses money, and eventually accrues

Yes, capitalism is unnatural in that animals aren't entrepreneurs and they can cooperate.

But animals do compete with each other, animals try to maximize "profits" (food), and animals have semblances of property. So they are partly 'capitalist'.

In reality, both

https://twitter.com/michaelevknight/status/1856017228254056836

cooperation and competition exist naturally, and both cooperation and competition exists in capitalist economies.

Of course, debt and rent and the like are indeed unnatural. But unlike animals, which desire specific goods, using particular methods, almost like a robot,

Ich stimme dem bis zu einem gewissen Grad zu. Der Kapitalismus ist weder gleich noch unterstützt er „Rechte“, denn erstens ist er nur ein System, das sich nicht verpflichtet fühlt, auf eine bestimmte Art und Weise zu handeln, und zweitens gibt es diejenigen, die vom Austausch

https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1856023105434521675

mehr profitieren als andere. Dies ist jedoch nicht unbedingt ein Argument gegen den Kapitalismus, sondern eher ein Argument gegen die Torheit derjenigen, die an positive Ansprüche und „Bürgerrechte“ glauben. Bürgerrechte sind in einem Vakuum nutzlos und haben keine Gültigkeit

@UrbaniteShitlib It depends what you mean by socialism. The term has been co-opted by so many movements and has been used to describe so manay idealized views of society it's practically an anti-concept. Even things that seem "socialist" like the labour theory of value, abolishing money, @UrbaniteShitlib abolishing property, abolishing class, and etc, aren't universally held. So it's really incoherent because 'socialists' have no clear-cut agreement on what delineates socialism. Unlike the capitalists, who at least agree that such a system entails

@benny_eks This person is right when they say Mao's policies is not 100% responsible for the GLF's failures, after all weather is a factor.

However, part of an effective policy is one that accounts for such conditions. A system is after all intended to serve the material constraints (+) @benny_eks of which weather is a factor. If you continue pushing a specific type of agricultural production policy with the full knowledge that there are many terrible geographical conditions, like rivers like the Yangtze and the Yellow River periodically flooding, or

At the core of solarpunk is contraditions; they posit that growth and progress is needed unless the degrowthers. This is a positive step. Progress after all is predicated on growth. But in a post-capitalist world too much growth would be seen as decadent and hazardous thus at a point technological innovations would have to stop or you're reinventing capitalism. Also, investment for capitalintense infrastructure requires large hierarchies with actors taking on low time-preference, long-run actions. Otherwise, the real opportunity