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Economist. China Centre, Oxford & SOAS. Ops/blogs on website. Also https://t.co/GbYqkMrVhk
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Aug 22 7 tweets 2 min read
I enjoyed this, thanks to @ZichenWang for compiling these pro-consumption demand boost views. It's interesting, but also misses something imp. 1/7 These 11 Chinese mainstream economists all call for govt aids to Chinese households, by @ZichenWanghere open.substack.com/pub/pekingnolo… Interesting cuz it adds weight to the 'something has to change' cry coming from several China economists for ages. That these Chinese economist openly call for same, is noteworthy and might be reflected in policies quite soon as the govt tries to rescue its 5% GDP target 2/7
Jul 19 6 tweets 2 min read
So much 3rd plenum parsing about, much of it questionable. Here are a few takeaways so far but we really have to await the Decisions doc details to be fair. But here goes, for the moment 1/6 Image The read out indicates party is as focused on security as on economy. No change there. But there’s an unusual big focus on international relations material. Suggests econ, security, geopol are indistinguishable. Message for foreign firms: you’ve been warned, know it or not 2/6
May 29 6 tweets 2 min read
New Productive Forces is China’s new industrial policy on steroids. In this piece, I examine what it is, metrics, contradictions, and whether it can work to rescue the economy and win at geopolitics, 1/6 China’s Quixotic Quest to Innovate | Foreign Affairs foreignaffairs.com/china/chinas-q… This will most likely be centre stage at July’s 3rd Plenum, and today the IMF is the latest to lay into the risks China is running by going he’ll for leather for a huge mfg production push, which will ‘externalise’ in effect China’s weaknesses at home by exporting to others. 2/6
May 15 9 tweets 2 min read
There is a lot wrong with this, hard to know wher to begin but let's give it a go 1/9
America is pulling up the drawbridge via @ftft.com/content/97024f… In the first place, tariffs and protection didn't strat in the US. You have to go back to the sea change in Chinese industrial and trade policy in the 2000s to get to the heart of what we are reaping today 2/9
May 6 5 tweets 1 min read
In this column, I argue there’s little point and much risk if the Yuan is allowed to drop significantly, but it could happen regardless 1/5 Risk of a renminbi devaluation is real via @FT
on.ft.com/4a7RAhb It’s not even about the $ as much as a) Chinese interest rates converging on zero, esp since real interest rates have surged as deflation risk has stalled China b) there’s every chance that their economy is going to fade again as policy support weakens and ….2/5
May 1 5 tweets 1 min read
This is a great quote from a Chinese official, who’s offering the West a lecture in trade theory and competitive advantage. The trouble is, as you might guess, it’s totally blowing smoke to deflect criticism 1/5 If you want to frame this all in comp advantage, look only to Adam Smith, arch free trade guy, who was well aware of the virtues of trade. He also despised mercantilism viscerally, if countries earning exp surpluses didn’t use their comp advantage to also then boost imports 2/5
Jan 21 4 tweets 1 min read
For 1st time in almost 30 years, China’s GDP in $ fell in 2023 to about $17.5trn, while U.S. gdp rise 6% to about $27trn. The gap widened by about $2trn. And China’s share of world GDP slipped to just under 17%. How meaningful is this? 1/4 Image To the extent that the yuan dropped sharply, not very. Exch rates jump around all the time. But… in yuan terms, nominal GDP rose barely more than 4.5%, and this is more set than surprise, reflecting weak demand and incipient deflationary pressures. 2/4
Jan 1 6 tweets 2 min read
What's in store for China this year, and beyond? In this piece, I look at several of the things that have combined and coalesced to create China's systemic headwinds 1/6 | George Magnus theguardian.com/business/2024/… It's against this backdrop that Xi's China is said to be treading a tightrope between security and the economy. This isn't wrong, but real issue is how and if to reform the economic development model so that this choice doesn't have to be made. The focus then is on policy. 2/6
Jul 22, 2023 4 tweets 2 min read
In this piece, I wanted to shine a light on China’s >21% youth unemployment rate because it’s economically structural, socially corrosive and curious for a rapidly ageing nation 1/4 China cannot allow jobless young to ‘lie flat’ via @FT
on.ft.com/3KaMJl3 The ‘lie flat’, and ‘let it rot’ movements and the tendency of young to live at home and be paid by patents for work are all indicative of degrees of pessimism about jobs, expectations and social mobility. But overlaid is hysteresis risk, which is esp awful for the young 2/4
Apr 21, 2023 4 tweets 2 min read
‘Turn that frown upside down’ says @FTAlphaville as they kindly publish my De-Dollarisation rebuttal. Some of this takes issue with a recent paper by Stephen Jen which FTA covered earlier this week. Some is more general 1/3 Dollar :-) via @FT
on.ft.com/41qO5ip Big shout to @Brad_Setser and @sobel_mark who are must read thinkers on this, incl on Twitter. The assertion that central banks were big sellers of USD reserves last year, more than the IMF reports, doesn’t pass muster and is anyway accounted for by bond valuation changes 2/4
Apr 20, 2023 4 tweets 2 min read
Current FA with good pieces on eg India, Asia, Africa, and a gr8 front cover tease ‘The West, the Rest and the new Global Disorder’. Well noted, cos 4 some of the biggest protagonists, China, Russia, Iran, multipolar is a polite word for shaping the world to suit autocracy 1/4 Image One of the essays is The Myth of Multipolarity. Authors acknowledge US/USSR bipolarity -> unipolar US world, but now at best bipolar w/ China,but even then not quite. However, US hegemonic position clearly less and it’s behaviour has to recognise that 2/4 foreignaffairs.com/united-states/…
Mar 30, 2023 4 tweets 2 min read
We have our own bank regulatory mess but don’t forget China has its own. The new regulator and its political overlords make China’s system even more very centralised, politicised, and Minsky-ish 1/3 The risks of China’s regulatory shake-up via @FT
on.ft.com/3ZqFYjY While a new state regulator will absorb existing ones, the PBoC will be weakened as its Federal type regional offices become provincial political control centres, and some of it brief is taken over. 2/4
Mar 28, 2023 7 tweets 3 min read
I was a big fan of Fareed’s interview of @MrKRudd recently. But this is arrant nonsense, and poorly informed. The lack of understanding of int’l monetary system is stunning. See @michaelxpettis @RobinBrooksIIF for example First look at the $ narrow trade weighted index DXY. It’s been soft but still a lot higher than 2-3 years ago 2/6 Image
Feb 26, 2023 10 tweets 2 min read
This is an interesting theme that merits a bit of delving, as I shall do now. There are close similarities, several differences, same ending? 1/10 China’s economy is looking at a new wave of Japanification ft.com/content/ee9ef5… Japan offers a useful, if inexact, template for modern China. Both feature a similar development model, systemic bop surpluses, property boom and bust, and a growth to debt transition. 2/10
Dec 3, 2022 5 tweets 1 min read
This is an interesting set of recommendations from 6 prominent Chinese economists, that’s both hit and miss. Here’s a couple of thoughts 1/5 They think the gdp target should be set at 5% or higher next year. Well if you believe in the practice - which many economists don’t - then to be fair, it’s do-able beating in mind China’s 2020 and our own 2021 covid bounces. Esp as q4 this year will be another negative 2/5
Jul 15, 2022 6 tweets 2 min read
China's Q2 GDP officially rose 0.4% y/y after 4.8% in Q1 with a June post lockdown rebound and some massaging of data. The q/q decline of 2.6% at least had the right sign, but the annual change was much more likely -1.5 to -2%. More details and implications in this thread 1/6 The numbers for June saw a double digit bounce in retail sales, as the economy re-opened, but output rose 3.6% and and there was a further modest rise in investment. There's little in these bounces that's sustainable and the property investment cycle looks awful still 2/6
Apr 29, 2022 8 tweets 3 min read
Pretty impressive > 4% fall in yuan over last few weeks,which is a lot, given tight mgt range. Here are some thoughts about Yuan depreciation building on ⁦@FT⁩ story /1. Renminbi on course for steepest monthly fall as China’s economy slows via @FT
on.ft.com/3vOPlwZ First, look how chinas bop has evolved, esp net errors and omissions. This is a sort of catch/all in Chinas bop for unrecorded capital outflows. Normally, net outflows. 2015-16 surge had never quite disappeared except for covid 2020, and still pretty high. /2
Apr 17, 2022 4 tweets 2 min read
Shanghai’s Covid lockdown is causing untold problems for China/beyond. Here is a story about the port and ship pile up going on which’ll take ages to work thru: /1 Supply-Chain: China Port Congestion Worsens as 477 Bulk Ships Waiting to Berth - Bloomberg bloomberg.com/news/articles/… At home, as @doumenzi says ‘Shanghai is the most visible of locked-down cities, but currently about half of China’s population is locked down, almost 90% of the most populous cities and most of its coastal highways are closed’. See forbes.com/sites/annestev… /2
Apr 12, 2022 7 tweets 2 min read
When is a tactical retreat a structural problem? When it’s Xi Jinping dealing with Common Prosperity., now elbowed /1. China Sets Aside Push to Spread Wealth in Pivotal Year for Xi - The New York Times nytimes.com/2022/04/12/bus… This year, ‘stability’ is so important, the economy so enfeebled, and covid so problematic, that the national political campaign, Common Prosperity, entailing communal material and spiritual prosperity is in effect suspended. /2
Mar 19, 2022 8 tweets 2 min read
Thoughts about China sitting atop a barbed wire Ukraine fence. I’ll say straight off Putin is prob not toxic enough yet for China not to see mileage for itself by supporting him. Quite the opp. If Putin were humiliated or deposed, Xi would be in trouble /1 nytimes.com/2022/03/18/wor… So this leads to the main issue in the Biden-Xi convo yesterday, whether China would react to US warnings of secondary sanctions. The China read of the meeting was predictably abrasive/defiant. This then begs the q if US/EU would take econ warfare v Russia to China too? /2
Mar 8, 2022 6 tweets 2 min read
Can’t believe how many times we have to counter this flawed thinking that ppl have been spouting for so long. Short explainer here /1. How the Ukraine war could boost China’s global finance ambitions via @FT
on.ft.com/3sSgpLq To have a truly international currency, you have to allow foreigners to accumulate claims on you. There are only 2 ways of doing this. Run current account deficits in perpetuity, or open your capital account to free, outward movement. China will do neither /2