@Saeko_Cut 1st pic is ironically relevant. Plato and Aristotle debating if 'reality' is comprised of unobservable essences that make a thing that thing regardless of its physical properties, or simply the physical world that we can know through observation. Trans: Plato. TERF: Socrates.
@Saeko_Cut This trans issue really got serious in the 16th C, with wars across Europe underpinned by disagreement over whether the bread/wine in communion 'really' turn into Jesus' flesh/blood (despite appearances) or are just bread/wine (erroneously attributing the former idea to Socrates)