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Grab: Arising from yesterday... We will provide you with an un-redacted version of Wright 11. And some patent questions arising from yesterday. You asked about the date of the first patent filing. Stolen by Jaime Wilson, but it was about a key sharing system from 2010-2011. He and Wilson patented the idea in 2011.

I can confirm that date from this US version of the patent which Shoosmiths downloaded from public database yesterday. CSW and Wilson as inventors, and it's dated April 2019 (granted). The application in August 2017. But for the purposes of the question is the foreign application data showing the Australia version October 2011 and June 2012. Confirmed by paragraph 1.

The subject matter of the patent is described on page one as well. "A system for operating a registry..." Later, it makes reference to the system using pub and priv keys. Step 930, the system creates a digital signature using the priv key of user 1... In short, this doc confirms his statement in cross exam.

Cerian Jones said in her witness statement that the first patent she handled for nChain was filed in Feb 2016. Then she explained CSW had 1300 research docs by June 2015 ready to patented.

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Hough: discussing other blog posts of Craig's which we say are inauthentic, but also they are not using as reliance documents. There's also a reference to setting up a trust. A Wayback capture from 2011 shows it's not there. The other blog post only features within the bundles. The article talks about culinary and wine matters. But also says something about a cryptocurrency paper coming out soon. That reference also isn't in an earlier snapshot. And here's a hard copy of the Sartre blog post.

We show that there have been 81 days of CSW using up UK court time. And I'd like to return to my closing.

Mellor: Please do

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Court starts in 45 minutes. Americans think the government can "save time" before the British do.

I have extra time to lift weights and sip some coffee!

Haha

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[Zheming Gao Sworn In]

Orr: Is your report true? Any modifications?
Gao: Delete this paragraph

Orr: And?
Gao: Nothing. Just delete

Orr: This is otherwise true and complete?
Gao?

Orr: And this annex to the joint statement is true?
Gao: Yes

Hough: You agree with professor Mickeljohn except where you noted?
ZG: Yes

COPA: Bitcoin uses ECDSA keys and uses a double hash of tx data?
Gao: Yes

COPA: It's impossible to computer the private key from public key?
Gao: Ye

COPA: It's important the message being signed is a new one?
Gao: Yes, but if you can assure the sig hasn't been used before, an old message could be verified too.

COPA: If I insisted on adding words, nothing would imprive?
Gao: No

COPA: What's important is that the message is just new and hasn't been signed?
Gao: Yes

COPA: Blocks 1-10 were P2PK and not hashed, yes?
Gao: Yes

COPA: You're aware that gavin said a list of public keys was brought. That's plausible, yes?
Gao: Yes

COPA: It would be possible for him to gather them?
Gao: Yes, they're public.

COPA: Imagine a signed message on a USB stick and knowing a pub key because they have a list. There's no real risk that the person receiving the stick can compute or derive the private key?
Gao: Practically impossible.

COPA: Infeasible with modern compute?
Gao: I think so

COPA: I'd like you to suppose signing was done in these steps:

1: Person verifying selects a new message.
2: CSW assuming he has keys, signs message on his computer and puts it on USB
3: Verifyer runs it on their computer.
4: References it to pub key they brought

This could be done without any risk of exposing keys?

Gao: Yes

COPA: This wouldn't be difficult?
Gao: No

COPA: No download necessary?
Gao: Well, they need the software.

COPA: Could be done in minutes?
Gao: Yes

COPA: And no real risk of session spoofing?
Gao: As long as the verifier knows his software is good.

COPA: And no risk of videoing
Gao: No

COPA: Or keeping minutes for risk?
Gao: Agreed.

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Mellor: I was contacted by a journalist who was excited about the docs that were presented yesterday. I will only be making findings in my written judgment which will follow closing arguments, which will happen after forensics.

Hough: In light of this new disclosure, we will have a report from Madden. Adding to the forgery doc, we will put these documents. New report by tomorrow. We don't know if it will be resisted, but we can schedule an argument at the court's convenience. We imagine, he will need to be recalled because it's sufficiently important and relevant to relief.

Grabiner: We don't object, but we will see how it all develops.

Hough: Due to Wright not calling Placks or Lynch, we didn't have anyone to tackle the joint report.
Grab: No objection to their submission as is.

[SWEARING MR ROSENDAHL]

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Orr: Last week, CSW requested further forensic reporting. His original report was about the tests on his environment. CSW would invite you to hear his application at a convenient time.

Also, disclosure issue arose over the weekend.

Mellor: What is it?

Orr: CSW will be providing a special disclosure, if you will accept it.

Mellor: Why has it taken so long to apply for the extra test report?

Orr: The evidence and its focus on the im[act of his environment has come to the forefront, and the way the expert evidence has been given in court.

[MADDEN SWEARING IN]

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Apparently before the stream started, there was some discussion and CSW swearing that Paul Le Roux was not Satoshi Nakamoto. Can't yet confirm...

CRAIG SWEAR IN ON A BIBLE. BLACK SUIT, WHITE SHIRT. RED TIE.

Hough: This isn't a chance for you to supplement.
CSW: Don't need to

COPA: This will be on Madden findings on LaTex
CSW: Yep

[Big attitude out of both guys right out the gate...]

COPA: Your witness statement?
CSW: Yes

COPA: Madden and others say this was fake?
CSW: A lack of MYOB and suppositions. They could have run up MYOB and tested their suppositions. They chose not to

COPA: Let's try the answering the question trick. These were backdated. Are you aware?
CSW: I understand what they wrote and that their methodology included no training in MYOB and that they looked at a blog.

COPA: Are you aware they found a file from you to Shadders in MYOB format? And he generated a security audit showing transactions added in March 2020?
CSW: Yep. He took a legally privileged action and treated it wrong.

COPA: Here, Madden produced this from the zip.
CSW: The file that had nothing to do with the MYOB, yes.

COPA: Answer the questin trick, again.
CSW: Just did.

COPA: This includes, doesn't it, a tx between WII and Info Defense for $700[missed the number] yes?
CSW: The date I made a copy

COPA: It shows the date of the tx
CSW: Of the copy.

COPA: Your story was the screenshots were taken by Ontier using live MYOB
CSW: MYOB was give to Alex Partners in 2019

COPA: Transcrpt says it was Ontier in live login.
CSW: It was provided to them, and then they did whatever they did.

COPA: You told the court they got MYOB details in late 2019
CSW: And I have emails for that.

Grab: If those goes into privilege, I'm going to object. This hasn't been waived. I accept the answers he gives are binding. I don't accept they should be pursued further.

[Lot's of laser eye anons visible filling the COPA side. Jon Biers visible picking his nose over Hough's left shoulder.]

COPA: [Reading transcript] You gave that answer on timing, yes?
CSW: I did

COPA: You entered the txs into MYBO on 6 March 2020 and that had nothing to do with the screenshots even though they show the same entries?
CSW: They are slightly different.

COPA: We dispute that. Are you aware Ontier says they were provided details on 9 March, 2020.
CSW: I recall what Oliver said

COPA: They informed us they produced the screenshots including the one we saw earlier.
CSW: All I know is what I was told by my solicitors.

COPA: Is it wrong to say Ontier captured the screen shots before this date in March?
CSW: Yes

COPA: That's a lie
CSW: Not from me.

COPA: they have no reason to lie
CSW: LOL that's totally incorrect.

COPA: Why would they lie?
GRAB: I object to that. The docs speak for themselves.
Mellor: Move on, Mr Hough

COPA: It was no coincidence that Ontier captured the screenshots and did that 3 days after you made entries
CSW: they had already been submitted to the US Court.

COPA: They were added by you as an act of forgery
CSW: Seeing as they had already been given to the US Court, that's hard to believe.

COPA: Can't back it up
CSW: I sure can.

COPA: After these were discredited, you gave Placks access to another bit
CSW: Yep

COPA: Who gave access to this person?
CSW: My wife most likely.

COPA: Did you know she was giving access
CSW: I wasn't involved.

COPA: Did you know?
CSW: I wasn't involved.

Mellor: Answer the question
CSW: I can speculate, but not from knowledge.

COPA: So what happened?
CSW: He didn't use the live database.

COPA: You're aware clocks were set back?
CSW: they don't understand the software. I have given MYOB's docs because we couldn't use the product without updates.

COPA: These session logs. He found a login and logout event separated by 12 years.
CSW: He found updates on the database.

COPA: He found login and logout entry related to the same user ID separated by 12 years.
CSW: they have nothing to do how MYOB works and contrary to what the company stated.

COPA: You're just disagreeing with everything.
CSW: Everything wrong.

COPA: He performed an audit. That contain the same info as in the security session audit.
CSW: I see that

COPA: He says it was an export of the raw data.
CSW: I see what he's saying wrong.

COPA: He found a series of dates out of order. 2023 dates among 2010. It shows them in the order they were recorded.
CSW: It doesn't. this is related to changes in the schema. Over the years, MYOB changed and moved into "live" which didn't exist until 2017-18, so all of this references schema updates by the company. If you look at their webpage, it explains this

COPA: It is quite simply false that, as a result of updating, that it will put things out of order.
CSW: No. As they explain, this happens.

COPA: this accounting software produces misleading extracts?
CSW: No. Rather than using MYOB Live, they used an extract.

COPA: It is simply false that this accounting software can't be properly audited.
CSW: the live server has a separate log from the extracts. THEY say that the live version is the valid version, and that extracts of old files can cause this behavior.

COPA: they should be in regular time order if it was used properly.
CSW: No, the properly working software wasn't used. Each of your people decided not to use the actual database.

COPA: That's a pack of lies.

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Mike Hearn Swear In wearing a blue plaid vest and white shirt.

Hough for COPA: Your witness statement is true?
MH: Yes

Grab: You are a dev at R3?
MH: Yes

Grab: What is Corda?
MH: Enterprise blockchain. Designed for banking and finance. Takes a few ideas from bitcoin, but is quite different.

Grab: Is R3 a competitor to nChain?
MH: I don't really know. Corda isn't a competitor to bitcoin, sooo

Grab: You started with Oracle last year?
MH: Yes

Grab: What do they do?
MH: Global, enterprise databases, etc...

Grab: Your dinner with Craig in 2016, 8 years ago, you say you refreshed your memory by email exchanges. So you couldn't remember the details that far back?
MH: I remember most of it, but I wanted to recall the name of the place and the exact date. The other details I remember quite well.

Grab: You said Jon wanted you to meet Craig. You said sure. It was them who wanted to meet you, yes?
MH: Yes. I wasn't aware CSW was in London.

Grab: Jon seems to say it was you who asked for the meet on the email.
MH: Jon said it the other way around. I didn't really care, to be honest.

Grab: I hope you're always honest.
MH: Hah yes

Grab: Well, the email evidence seems like a contradiction. You say you didn't want to meet him?
MH: I did. I don't argue about little details.

Grab: What you say here is you reached this conclusion on rereading the emails. If you read the emails, the conclusion seems unsustainable.
MH: Well, it was from recollecting.

Grab: You say Jon wanted you to meet and you didn't have an opinion on Craig at that point so you said "let's have dinner." Let's look at the next paragraph. Jon was convinced CSW was Satoshi, so I wanted to take a look.
MH: This is my recollection.

Grab: Is your memory of the dinner hazy?
MH: Maybe, but not the important parts.

Grab: Says you don't really remember the details?
MH: It was a long dinner...

Grab: Your own statement indicates your memory is likely hazy. Did you sign an NDA?
MH: No

Grab: You were already at R3 at the time. I suggest they're a competitor to nChain.
MH: I could answer if I knew more about nChain. I know that nChain does exclusively bitcoin related development.

Grab: One focus is scalability in bitcoin.
MH: Yes, I know that, but anyone in databases is focused on scalability.

Grab: You recall Stefan was playing a role as a "minder" to be sure things stayed professional. He asked CSW to stop talking about potentially patented info
MH: I was asking questions about bitcoin

Grab: But you got the sense it was his job to manage Craig's talking about IP?
MH: I did.

[Fighting hard about whether Mike saw this transcript or not. Grab biting hard]

Grab: From Matthew's statement about Wild Honey...
MH: So far, this isn't how I recall it.

Grab: You were there for the conversation?
MH: Not this bit

Grab: Matthews seemed to think that you were fishing for patent related information.
MH: I didn't know anything about nChain or patents at the time. It's Stefan's interpretation, but I was asking about bitcoin technicals.

Grab: It seemed like questions about filed patents to Stefan.
MH: I didn't know anything about those patent filings.

Grab: Did he tell Craig to stop answering questions?
MH: Yes

Grab: What was it that triggered that?
MH: Craig was stuttering and looked to Stefan who said don't talk about the PAYtents - sorry, patents...

Grab: So, Stefan says you had other meetings and emails.
MH: Well, he emailed me a few times asking me to meet up. I don't remember meeting him, but I do see the emails a bit.

Grab: Stefan said you weren't impressed with Craig's answers at the time, but you met a few more times and you never had criticisms. Is that true? There's a basic difference of view between you and Stefan. I think Stefan is accurate and yours is not?
MH: Is that a question?

Grab: When I stop speaking, it's a question.
MH: Well, I disagree.

Grab: One thing about the signhash single, how did you know that was an area of interest to Craig?
MH: Yes, it was a basic function of bitcoin he would know if he was Satoshi.

Grab: So was it or wasn't it an area of agreement?
MH: I didn't think bitcoin could be patented. Satoshi never mentioned them, so it didn't occur to me that it could.

Grab: You said Matthews seemed to be handling Craig. If Craig was the big man, it was weird that he was being handled under the thumb of this other guy.

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Hough for COPA Examining Martti Malmi

SWEARS IN

Hough: Your statements are true?
MM: Yes

Orr for CSW: Confirm, you are alone with no electronics, no notes and no ability to communicate?
MM: Yes

Orr: Looking at your first witness statement. You are interested in changing the world with tech, not politics? And changing the money?
MM: Yes

Orr: You joined mailing lists and forums on this?
MM: No I did not

Orr: Here's an email you sent to Satoshi saying you're Trickstern from the antistate forum. Were you using that forum?
MM: after I discovered bitcoin, I went there and one other. Freedomain forum I think

Orr: So your answer should have been "yes, I joined at least two forums."
MM: Yes

Orr: when did you discover bitcoin?
MM: April 2009

Orr: Used relay chat?
MM: Yes, IRC before bitcoin

Orr: Who did you chat with?
MM: I started the bitcoin IRC channel. There were others, but I don't recall specific people.

Orr: when did you start discussing bitcoin on IRC?
MM: I'm not sure. It must have been 2009 or 10, but I don't remember exactly.

Orr: In the earlier period, not focusing on bitcoin, but more generally on P2P money, why didn't you use IRC to look for P2P money generally?
MM: I use google for info on a topic. IRC is more community.

Orr: You talked to Satoshi there?
MM: Yes

Orr: You introduece yourself as Trickstern from the Antistate forum and asked to help with bitcoin.
MM: Yes

Orr: You assumed he would know you as your handle on that forum?
MM: He replied to my thread, but not exactly to me at this time.

Orr: But he was part of the discussion?
MM: Yes

Orr: Do you remember what the thread was about?
MM: Separation of state and money, but I don't remember specifics.

Orr: You understand CSW says he contacted you on forums before the first known email. Is that correct?
MM: Yes, but I don't consider it as being in contact with Satoshi before my email.

Orr: So how can you be so sure?
MM: I recall where I was living at the time, and I moved to another address when I emailed Satoshi.

Orr: When was that?
MM: end of April or beginning of May 2009.

Orr: Must have been before May if you had already emailed him.
MM: Maybe

Orr: Do you recall someone named liberty007 on the Antistate forum?
MM: No

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Hough for COPA: Shows document. ATO settlement. CSW emails CA and Somer from Clayton Utz... "Stefan knows my bitcoin history from 2009 on..." So, it's wrong you knew about his bitcoin history from 2009?
SM: We worked together since 2005. I don't know why he said that.

COPA: Extraordinary mistake to make?
SM: Not sure why he would say that...

COPA: On the Andresen era, he wanted to talk about technical stuff?
SM: As a precursor to coming to London.

COPA: CSW said one thing and only one thing would be acceptable: technical stuff.
SM: At the time, yes

COPA: Somer said there has to be some trust to not breech NDA.
SM: Which NDA?

COPA: Presumably with Matonis and Andresen?
SM: I ah yes, I suppose.

COPA: Just looking at this, Rob doesn't seem nasty, but seems to be looking for compromise here?
SM: In this email, yes.

COPA: You recall in advance of the Gavin signing session, you received messages from Uyen about TT and access to keys. Do you recall them?
SM: Not particularly

COPA: Saying "Tulip Trustee approved request for signing for the purposes of verifying CSW, etc... Need to settle violations of the trust though..." This id oddly phrased?
SM: Very oddly phrased.

COPA: So, permission, but also a violation?
SM: I dealt with Denis at this time to receive consent for use of the keys. Denis was the trustee that could approve keys for a specific purpose and a specific occasion. We were concerned about not being able to do the Matonis proof without letters...

COPA: Was Uyen an intern of sorts?
SM: She was associated with a US company. I think with Dave Kleiman. I first hear od her during due diligence in Sydney

COPA: You recall comms from Uyen?
SM: Yes, but it was irrelevant because I was dealing with Denis.

COPA: Did you talk to Craig about these weird emails?
SM: Yes, he said ignore her.

COPA: How did she know that these sessions were taking place?
SM: I don't know.

COPA: On the Andresen interview, Rob talking media briefings with signings in closed-door sessions for GQ, etc...
SM: I see it.

COPA: A plan for bitcoin to be sent inbound to blocks 1 and 9.
SM: Yep

COPA: The bitcoin sent back and media released
SM: I see it

COPA: Andrew's deeper piece release plan... That O'Hagan?
SM: I think so

COPA: CSW was opposed to moving bitcoin and didn't like reference to large screens.
SM: Yes

COPA: Here, you reassure CSW the screen would just be a monitor.
SM: Yep

COPA: Ramona chimes in saying sessions need to be closed and quiet and the difficulty of moving bitcoin because CSW had said he had no control of bitcoins until 2020.
SM: Can we also revisit Denis talk. I recall the letter saying the private keys can't be used for moving coin, but could be used for signing only.

COPA: Later, do you recall, Denis saying it could be moved if it was coin that had been sent in.
SM: I don't recall that.

February 19, 2024

Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

MONDAY, DAY 11

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DAVID BRIDGES SWEARING IN ON BIBLE VIA ZOOM FROM AUS.

Grab: You see your witness statement?
DB: Yes.

Grab: It's true?
DB: Yes

Hough for COPA: Can you see me?
DB: I can't actually, mate... Ah, there you are!
Mellor: That's a great "mate"

COPA: Have you watched the trial or seen any media or commentary on it?
DB: No

COPA: You work for Qdos Bank?
DB: I did for 19 years. Just changed in December.

COPA: It was a credit union?
DB: Yes

COPA: You met CSW in 2006 when he was at BDO?
DB: Yes

COPA: For IT security audit? and he found vulnerabilities?
DB: Yes, found plenty.

COPA: You have evidence in Oslo, where you said he was working on IT security, etc.. Is that a fair summary of his work?
DB: Yip

COPA: After he left BDO, you engaged him as a consultant where he worked in your offices every week or two on pentesting. Does that involve acting as a hacker and then fixing what he finds?
DB: Yep

COPA: Then advice on IT security?
DB: Yep, framework, then setting up and testing controls.

COPA: Then event logging. that included alerts if there was a change to the events.
DB: Yep.

COPA: You drew a parallel with blockchain because a record of all changes and no reversibility, good traceability?
DB: Yep

COPA: You're not saying they shared code in common?
DB: I wouldn't know, mate. I can tell you how it worked and how we used it.

COPA: He also gave you papers to read?
DB: Yep. Annoyed the hell out of me.

COPA: We ID'd 100s of things he sent to you. Does that sound right?
DB: He certainly sent me a lot of things, but I didn't read em all. and didn't understand a lot of what I read.

COPA: We haven't authenticated these, but he claims he sent this. About criminal choice theory.
DB: Can't say categorically, but it is along the lines of what he would have sent about law.

COPA: Document retention document. Very long one on record keeping and document distribution in the digital world. You recall?
DB: I can see the GIAC systems because he was trying to get me to study it. So probably.

COPA: Here's so bedtime reading to put you to sleep. Examining software security.
DB: Yeah, it's likely. It's relevant to what we were doing at the time, but I don't have those emails anymore, so I can't guarantee.

COPA: Based on our view, these are concerned with IT security, document foresnesics and legal interest. Do you agree with that?
DB: Absolutely.

COPA: You were showed an LLM proposal documents about payments, intermediaries. You said he showed this to you or something similar because he was always banging on about EU law and trade.
DB: Yes, he wanted us to invest in research with him about stuff like this.

COPA: You can't say it was this precise version?
DB: Nah, mate. Jeez. It looks right from my perspective.

February 16, 2024

Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

FRIDAY, DAY 10

PLEASE RETWEET FOR MAX CIRCULATION Hough: Madden's 5th report will be served Monday. Revised timetable here. @tuftythecat visible over Hough's left shoulder. [I'm not typing all that rn]

Grabner: Calling Danielle DeMorgan.

[Swearing In - no Bible]

Grab: IS your witness statement true?
DD: Yes

Hough for COPA: You refer to a blog post
DD: Yes

COPA: In your post, you say "have you ever known a kid who said they would create something that would change the world?"
DD: Yes

COPA: Then he knew from childhood, he would change the world. I thought Craig and pop were aliens of time travelers. Was Pop grandfather?
DD: Yes, he has passed away now

COPA: You say he liked Japanese culture, especially fighting? Martial arts and real weapons?
DD: [laughing] yes, yes

COPA: And Japanese superhero names
DD: Yes, full suits and full swords that he would do movements with.

COPA: You describe an instance when you encountered a fully dressed ninja person with a sword
DD: Yes

COPA: To say craig was eccentric is to say the least. He was practicing martial arts with a sword in the park?
DD: Yes

COPA: Swinging it around.
DD: Slow and directed movement. Intentional and not in close proximity to people

COPA: you were 15-16 years old?
DD: Aroudn that

COPA: Craig would be 18-19?
DD: Yes

COPA: It was a real sword he owned?
DD: Yes

COPA: You told anyone who would listen about the crazy guy in the park.
DD: Yes, you could only see his eyes in the black suit.

COPA: Then the ninja walked in at home!
DD: Yes

COPA: Craig?
DD: Yes

COPA: Eccentric, to say the least?
DD: Yes

COPA: So you weren't surprised to hear his Japanese pseudonym in the news?
DD: Right

COPA: Family property at Lisserow?
DD: I follow maps, and it was near Lisserow at the coast.

COPA: It was around 2008 based on you having your youngest child
DD: Yes, end of 2007 or beginning of 2008. My kid wasn't quite walking yet.

COPA: You saw a room full of computers then. You called it a "mad professor room"
DD: Yes, most of the house was full of computers and running chords.

COPA: Craig said he was working on something important but you said "whatever"
DD: He works on very techical stuff. When he explains, it's always over my head.

COPA: You say you later heard about Satoshi and bitcoin and Craig was involved.
DD: Yes, I remember him working with Lasseter's because they were also my customer, and I remember he was working on a digital currency at the time.

COPA: This isn't in your witness statement.
DD: I was told it was in Lasseter's witness statement.

DD: My sister and I had been going through stuff, so I made a blog post

COPA: Your first thought was totally "this would be Craig because of the Japanese names"
DD: Right

COPA: So you draw conclusion from the Japanese names?
DD: Yes

COPA: You're aware there's many possible people who could be Satoshi? Do you know to what extent they are also interested in Japanese culture?
DD: I don't look into them much.

Mellor: Thank you Ms DeMorgan

February 15, 2024

Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

Thursday, DAY 9.

PLEASE RETWEET FOR MAX CIRCULATION Hough: Housekeeping matter. We were informed CSW's KC don't wish to cross examine Wuille, Trammel, Cellen-Jones and a few others. CSW made statements about them which were inconsistent with their written evidence or new matters entirely. Our understanding is that since they won't be cross examining, their evidence won't be disputed. We have asked for clarification on this matter.
Mellor: You don't want to call them to respond to the allegations, though, right?
Hough: We want them addressed. It's simply not satisfactory for CSW to have added details.
Gunning: Well, Wuille is our only witness, and we have drafted an order. I would add that if your Lordship has questions about his witness statement, we are keen that you have the opportunity to hear the voice of a [laughing] real developer of bitcoin instead of one who clearly isn't
Grabiner: What an absurd little bait. No good deed goes unpunished, huh?! We received a very demanding letter first thing this morning, and respectfully, the step you have taken is entirely unacceptable with your words and letter.
Hough: Nothing further
Grabiner [CSW's KC] requesting Ignatius Pang put on screen.

[PANG TAKING OATH] [Swears by Almighty God...]

Grab: GM, Dr Pang. Please confirm you see your witness statement.
Pang: Yes

Grab: This statement is true?
Pang: Yes, it's true

Hough: Before I get into evidence, have you watched his evidence over the last week and half?
Pang: I have watched Gavin Mehl on YouTube and another guy from @RealCoinGeek and a piece from Forbes.

Hough: You're a researcher in Bio Data?
Pang: Yes

Hough: Based on your Linkedin, you got your degree in 2005.
Pang: And graduated in 2006

Hough: At BDO?
PANG: It was BDO [something else] then, but BDO after.

Hough: Until 2009?
Pang: Yes.

Hough: Then Deloitte in 2010?
Pang: Yes

Hough: You worked with Craig at BDO?
Pang: Yes

Hough: After he left in 2008, you did some work with him in later years?
Pang: Yes, partly in writing papers and conference proceedings. Then I worked at Hotwire later.

Hough: You said it was casual work for Hotwire 2013-2015
Pang: With some break in the middle when the company was in administration and folded. But I came back later and helped too.

Hough: Employee or contractor?
Pang: Employee

Hough: Not for his other companies?
Pang: Correct. I was paid out of Hotwire. I knew of his [laughing] many other companies, but not involved.

Hough: No other work at the other companies?
Pang: To the best of my knowledge .

Hough: Did you coauthor a paper for Info Defense in 2009?
Pang: That will take some history. I authored it at BDO, but they wouldn't use it, so CSW asked for permission to use it. I borrowed info from a textbook to write it, so I didn't have a bunch of control over it when it was handed over.

Hough: So you were the sole author?
Pang: I was initially. CSW would have reviewed, and I don't know if he made changes. Maybe minor changes.

Hough: There's a doc coming up on screen. Is this the doc with Information Defense branding?
Pang: I recognize the logo with the "eternal vigilance is the cost of liberty" line which is from famous text, I think.

Hough: It says Pang and Wright as authors
Pang: Yes.

Hough: But he wasn't a co-author. He just reviewed
Pang: YEs, but he was my boss and came up with the idea to write it, so it was his idea to start.

Hough: Did he pay you?
Pang: BDO did.

Hough: Here's one of CSW's CVs from BDO. A summary of his work and responsibilities. Can you read it?
Pang: I don't understand what all these certifications are, but yes.

Hough: Is this an accurate summary of what Craig was up to?
Pang: Still reading [his qualifications]. Sorry. It's a birds eye view of his responsibilities, but definitely details that aren't listed like his digital forensics work that isn't here. He does very unique work with hard drives, etc...

Hough: Was it focused on IT Security and digital forensics?
Pang: He also does very advanced data analytics for clients.

Hough: You describe work you did on predatory behavior on social networks. Grooming, etc...
Pang: A bit. I didn't know about their work with defendants, but worked in data analytics.

Hough: In relation to a court case?
Pang: It was used in a court case, but I didn't know the names in the case until much later.

Hough: Is this a presentation you produced with Wright on it?
Pang: TO the best of my knowledge, yes. It looks like it.

Hough: It was modeling the social networks of two people based on their chats?
Pang: They were the target, but there were other people too. My role was mine the interactions and flesh them out.

Hough: The problem was the individuals could use multiple names on those networks.
Pang: Yes

Hough: He used names like Homie and the victim used names like AussieGirl
Pang: Yes

Hough: So you looked for names used by Homie and AussieGirl
Pang: Yes, regular expression matching. Similar sounding names...

Hough: You used Geome software?
Pang: Yes.

Hough: It's an analytical tool for visualizing networks .
Pang: Yes, all kinds of networks.

Hough: You describe visualizing AussieGirl's social network. And how they interact?
Pang: It's supposed to show how her friends interact, yes.

Hough: Did you draw conclusions about how they interact?
Pang: Not conclusions, but my interpretations. Expert opinion. Not definite.

Hough: You address a deduction that could be drawn about aliases.
Pang: Yes, my best guess, but needed to be scrutinized by the court.

Hough: You then show how software allows zooming in
Pang: Yes.

Hough: Then a similar exercise for Homie
Pang: Yes

Hough: Then Homie's friends
Pang: Yes

Hough: then you express your opinions for his network
Pang: Yes

Hough: Conclusion that AussieGirl isn't at the core of Homie's network.
Pang: Not at the core, but in the periphery.

Hough: Homie chats to more friends than Aussiegirl
Pang: In this incomplete network, yes. I recall Craig telling me we can't trust the data because we probably only have incomplete data.

Hough: You say Homie's friends are tightly connected, but Aussigirl doesn't have the same kind of closeness. Is it fair that this is a summary of the kind of work you did with Wright?
Pang: It was useful for that court case. I was asked not to read the messages between Homie and AussieGirl because they were unsettling, so I ignored them, so it was just data to me.

Hough: In your witness statement, you say that you discussed 3 concepts with Wright.
Pang: Yes. Guilt by association... [missed the others]

Hough: Guilt by association is that when there are lots of network connections, people can be part of the same clique?
Pang: In biological data setting, yes, if the data is reliable.

Hough: Second concept is proteins in a densely connected network. They're part of cores and bind stably together.
Pang: yes, this is well known in network analysis and all biological organisms.

Hough: and connections in new organisms.
Pang: I have learned this, but not able to duplicate gene analysis because it's out of my PHD scope, but it's new and exciting.

Hough: This is like the BDO work you did?
Pang: It was my first job outside of uni. I was a rookie then.

Hough: You were supporting the defense of someone who was grooming a victim?
Pang: As I understand it.

Hough: Wright thanked you for your work? and elaborated.
Pang: I laughed when he said nobody would complement me for my work ebcause of the nature of it.

Hough: A conversation about a lego set you got for your birthday. You said this was refreshed by conversations with Ontier. About this but not other parts of your statement.
Pang: Yes.

Hough: Is that becuase this part was part of something important.
Pang: Those things help me recall old memories.

Hough: You recount a conversation which took place over 15 years ago. You didn't write it down anywhere at the time?
Pang: No, but the word blockchain is strange because I think he should have said a chain of blocks

February 14, 2024 Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

Wednesday, DAY 8.

PLEASE RETWEET FOR MAX CIRCULATION

Happy Valentine's Day! CRAIG IN A RED SHIRT AND TIE. GRAY SUIT.

CSW's KC: [Discussion redactions and claims to privilege. Basically, asking to release Craig from being under oath so they can discuss redacted stuff before he is examined on it again]

Hough and Gunning don't object. Shoosmiths need CSW's feedback to answer some questions on the new evidence, but can't while he's under oath.

COPA: You didn't write emails from Tyche email domain? You said it was a UK company owned by Rob that you didn't work for. This Baker/Mac paper, which you admit is genuine and signed by you, Ramona and Stefan. Shows Craig entering into a consulting agreement with Tyche for 150k GBP. Is this wrong?
CSW: Yes. On that day, it was 1200 pages of docs for all the IP. I didn't have solicitors with me and hadn't read them in detail.

COPA: So you signed an agreement without reading?
CSW: Correct. The email you brought up said "we are ready to start a family." But we were in our mid-forties at the time, and had 3 children already. It's clear that email is fake for that reason.

COPA: Is this your signature?
CSW: No. You've seen my signatures. This has a fake flourish, etc... I also wasn't living at that address. Other people did, including Wired and Giz, but we had moved in August.

COPA: So you didn't sign this?
CSW: I don't sign without Craig S Wright, and you see it's not there.

COPA: You didn't say this was a fake in disclosure.
CSW: It's listed as from a staff laptop.

COPA: This was disclosed?
CSW: Yes

COPA: It wasn't said as a fake?
CSW: I don't know what other people did. But I noted it in disclosure platform.

COPA: You see notes about science role at Tyche.
CSW: No, at nCrypt which became nChain. Check my taxes. It was only ever at nChain.

COPA: This is Kelly Connor setting up Chief Scientist at Tyche. Chief at HR.
CSW: Tyche was the HR agency for nCrypt. When Rob left, that changed.

COPA: The docs tell a consistent story of you at Tyche until 2018.
CSW: I handed over my taxes. They're all from nChain or nCrypt. This consulting firm wasn't my employer.

February 13, 2024 Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

Tuesday, DAY 7.

PLEASE RETWEET FOR MAX CIRCULATION Mellor: How will you proceed in relation to the submitted docs?
Hough: I need to speak with Gunning still. There are outstanding questions that need to be resolved.

Mellor: In the excel spreadsheets, there's a limit in size, and I can't see the whole white paper, for example.

Gunning: It links to an appendix. We do see editing history and anything that isn't redacted.

Mellor: [sounding like he may be unwell this morning] some of the redactions seem odd. Row 6, for example. Can you double check redactions [to CSW's team]

CSW team: We are looking at it. They are about claims to privilege from the folders where they were sourced. So far, they have been consistent with claims of privilege.

Hough: I'm told there's a column with truncation. I hadn't noticed personally.

Mellor: Wright may want to comment as well, so I won't rule that out.

Hough: We acknowledge he may need to be recalled.

EXAM CONTINUES

COPA: You insist bitcoin isn't a cryptocurrency despite Satoshi using the term. You challenged the Malmi email where it looks like they wrote the term.
CSW: There is no "they." Just me.

COPA: See the middle of this page. "Someone came up with the word cryptocurrency for bitcoin. Do you like it?" You accept this is real?
CSW: I do.

COPA: New email between Satoshi and Malmi. "P2P cryptocurrency sounds more interesting, yes?"
CSW: On top of that, there's SourceForge messages and open forum talks.

COPA: So Satoshi raised the idea of using the word.
CSW: No. It was raised by someone else.

COPA: Satoshi suggested it to Malmi
CSW: No, he was in the forums where it was first discussed.

COPA: And Satoshi instructed the change
CSW: You'll notice it was changed on the site (which was Malmi's job) before this discussion. I agreed at the time, and I have decided in time that the term was inaccurate.

[everyone sounds like they have sore throats today...]

COPA: Evidence from Granath proceedings. Gaining access to the keys
CSW: Access to the drive anyways...

COPA: You say you were unable to access the drive here.
CSW: Yes

COPA: You said you got key slices and advice from Baker MacKenzie
CSW: I see that

COPA: You stated you destroyed the hard drive with keys and key slices
CSW: It was an AES system collated. The key unlocks the drive. What is accessed is the algorithm that calculates the keys homomorphically.

COPA: You're clear here that they access the first 12 blocks, right?
CSW: Yes

COPA: Not the first 11 like you said yesterday?
CSW: MY first twelve

COPA: You said blocks 1-11 here and 12 in Granath. That's a difference.
CSW: I definitely had 1-11

COPA: You were wrong with Granath?
CSW: Yes.

COPA: In Kleiman trial, You were asked if you got access from Uyen. You said you had enough slices anyways.
CSW: Correct

COPA: You said the trust used shamir
CSW: The algorithm, not the entity.

COPA: You were asked what assets were controlled
CSW: In the current format, yes.

COPA: You were asked about the 2011.
CSW: That trust was settled and new members were added.

COPA: You were asked if Dave was involved in Tulip Trust. You said no
CSW: Correct

COPA: You said here he was holding slices of the trust.
CSW: that's the algorithm key slice.

COPA: Slices for creating a private key?
CSW: We have patents on this. Your expert explained a radically simpler system. We created a system that does this differently.

COPA: You were asked if you put bitcoin in the trust and said no. Did anyone? said no. Those were about Tulip Trust?
CSW: Some. People get confused by the trust and Tulip trust. The Tulip Trust owns companies that hold bitcoin in their holdings along with IP, software and other assets.

COPA: Your evidence now says that Tulip owns companies and companies own bitcoin?
CSW: Yes, and I don't own 100% of any of the companies or the Tulip Trust.

[He has been consistent on this point in every trial, and every attorney acts like he isn't]

COPA: Here you say you mined in 2009-2010 and put them into a trust based in Panama.
CSW: This was pre-Tulip Trust. Wright Intl had an agreement for the company to mine into Wright Intl Trust.

COPA: You said that in October 2012 Tulip Trust held bitcoin.
CSW: Not exactly. There were other structures. Tulip trading, by corpus...

COPA: So what you mean is not that the assets of the trust own bitcoin but that they own companies that own bitcoin.
CSW: Hence the language of "by corpus." I had to list every entity or beneficiary agreement where I owned interest.

COPA: But you didn't say you mined into a trust and consolidated into another trust?
CSW: I wasn't asked. A trust, by definition, if I'm not a trustee makes me not an owner. I also wasn't in charge of the companies.

COPA: Here's a list of companies that are trustees as well as PGP holders.
CSW: These docs came from machines from which I couldn't validate before the trust meeting in 2020, but I explained this.

COPA: This doc says Dave was a trustee.
CSW: I explained how this doc was altered. You acknowledged that the signature was an inserted image.

COPA: You explained that the original trustee was Dave. It was wrong when you said he was involved.
CSW: I have already explained. I didn't have access to anything when asked previously. Docs hadn't yet been analyzed. These came from employee laptops if you check the COC. They weren't real docs, but I didn't know they weren't real when we had to disclose them.

COPA: So which is it?! Are you saying you gave declaration not knowing or knowing from docs?
Mellor: So was Dave a trustee?
CSW: No
Mellor: Why was it said then?
CSW: The magistrate made me make a yes or no. I said I don't know if he was. I was told if I don't answer, I'd be in contempt. I told him I set it up so I wouldn't know, but I can't validate if the docs were real. I answered based on if this doc was real.
COPA: There's no such qualification here
CSW: I explained clearly, but had a similarly contentious conversation with Reinhart where nobody could understand the specifics. I threw this doc and was threatened for my behavior.

COPA: There's no evidence that that was this document.
CSW: I've been answering questions about being a blind beneficiary of a trust for many years.

COPA: So what you meant to say was you were pressured by the judge to say something.
CSW: By my solicitors..
COPA: PLEASE DONT SHARE PRIVILEGE INFO

Mellor: Here you nominate yourself as a trustee. How could you be a trustee without seeing the docs?
CSW: My signature isn't on this doc. This doc is fake. But created and on 2 staff laptops that also sent info to Ira. Savanna was a real company, and I know Uyen, but I couldn't go to anyone to see the real docs until 2020.

Mellor: So why did you nominate yourself as a trustee?
CSW: I listed what the doc said and the doc was bad.

Mellor: So why do it?
CSW: I told my US attorneys that I didn't know what to do with the conflicting docs. I know which one is real now, but I didn't know then.

Mellor: Who created all these?
CSW: Diane Pinter from Lloyds

Mellor: She drafted it. When?
CSW: I made the first draft in 2011, but then removed myself from the knowledge of further things. I gave input to Diane and people at Baker's to make the new trust deeds and in their restructyring in 2016, but I didn't get copies.

Mellor: Who was responsible for the new deeds in 2016?
CSW: My wife.

Mellor: Thank you

COPA: You see distribution of coins being mined and the bonded courier was meant to return key slices in 2020.
CSW: That's what was intended, yes.

COPA: So fragmented keys would come to you and allow you to generate keys.
CSW: Essentially, yes.

COPA: Is it right that access to this encrypted file would come from Dave or Bonded Courier?
CSW: It was meant to be that he gave it back or the courier did. But he died.

COPA: While being cross examined by Mr Freedman, he asks if the technical solution is based on the shamir scheme, so there's a minimum amount of key slices..
CSW: Correct.

COPA: And multiple files with different schemes.
CSW: Yes

COPA: One for Genesis block, then others for other things.
CSW: Correct.

COPA: You said there were 4 Shamir schemes. and then Freedman took you to a part of the doc about the 15 segments with a threshold of 12.
CSW: Yes.

COPA: Disagreement about the bitmessage... Asked about the genesis block. Your answer was a loan of bitcoin and key controlling the genesis key. You refer repeatedly about a key in regards to the genesis block. Was that private or public key?
CSW: Neither. It was an HMAC generated with an ECDH method. There's no private key to the genesis block, but the public key and the block hash can create a secret to generate all the other keys from the list. The algo...

COPA: Freedman puts to you, an email from you to Rob MacGregor. You said here it's for the first ten blocks? So 11 here, 12 in Granath and ten in Kleiman.
CSW: This is a particular access in that particular file.

COPA: It looks like access to the keys for the purpose of the signing sessions.
CSW: That was a different file. There was 8/15, 12/15 schemes. I needed to access the algo to rebuild. the first ten are part of the first 11.

COPA: That's another explanation that was an excuse given on the fly.
CSW: I explained there were multiple schemes.

February 12, 2024 Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

Monday, DAY 6.

PLEASE RETWEET FOR MAX CIRCULATION Mellor: "So, better temperature!" 3 emails were received over the weekend. First was from CAH, Second from Steve Shadders, Third from a Mr Bungé in Canada.

CAH offering a witness statement in response to allegations. Shadders offering a witness statement and Mr Bunge about a patent. Up to you if you want to bring these in.

COPA: We spoke with Shoosmiths last night, and we agree that CSW can be off the stand before we decide on various new things to be added, so they can be discussed with him. Also, Mrs Wright has discovered a new box of papers to bring into the case. Also, McFarlane's for the devs have brought up [sorry, I missed it]

Mellor: Well, I think you've been dealing with issues of privilege well, but I will rule if there's a struggle.

COPA: CSW: discussing OzMail and DeMorgan era when you worked with the Aussie Stock Exchange. Is this your CV?
CSW: Yes.

LOST AUDIO... WHOA! BACK ON VERY LOUD.

COPA: This is your CV with your stills in security?
CSW: It's a marketing document for a particular role. I have others for C++ and other development, code analysis, etc... Different resume for different things. Things like my work on P2P Nipper would be on another CV.

COPA: Here's your LinkedIn. Yes?
CSW: Yes.

COPA: IDS intrusion detection systems?
CSW: Yes.

COPA: On Friday, you said you ended up with the stock exchange was experience with VMS. Do you recognize this SANS interview?
CSW: Yes

COPA: Says here you managed security, firewalls... ASX taught me benefits of... I learned VMS at that time. Did you have extensive experience, or did you learn VMS at ASX?
CSW: Both. I was a cowboy until I learned how to run at a professional level at VMS.

COPA: this is a clear contradiction.
CSW: There's a different level of skill from academic to commercial. I did these things in college, etc...

COPA: In that interview, you also mention Lasseter's which closed in 2008, yes?
CSW: I believe so.

COPA: It was a security assignment with them?
CSW: Architecting systems that didn't exist before, but yes.

COPA: Here's your witness statement from McCormack trial. You mention ASX, SCADA stuff with Aussie gov and architecture for Lasseter, Centrebet... That's how you described it at the time?
CSW: Yes. High level with little detail.

COPA: You recognize this list of tasks for Lasseter?
CSW: This was the list of stuff DeMorgan would run. We had a distributed tripwire system and logging. It was the operation's team's job.

COPA: You said you proposed digital cash but left before it got implemented. But that's not mentioned anywhere.
CSW: It mentioned the environment. There was a logging system mentioned and that was a distributed hash tree structure with hourly blocks.

COPA: I'll ask again. Digital Cash didn't appear anywehre.
CSW: Not in a one-liner, but "architecture" includes that.

COPA: No doc with digital cash for Lasseter's
CSW: Token systems and digital cash are different, but it was never working at Lasseter's.

COPA: You mention Vodafone as well. Work DeMorgan was doing.
CSW: Yes.

COPA: Risk assessments, security audits, etc...
CSW: This was the security CV, but not the development CV.

COPA: These are all straight forward IT Security
CSW: The resume you have from Gavin Andresen includes the token system and logging systems at Vodafone and PHD level coding projects. Again, hash chain based systems..

February 9, 2024 Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

DAY 5

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February 8, 2024 Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

DAY 4

NOTE: I have a surgical post-op appointment that will coincide with lunch at court. I expect to miss an hour or so of the afternoon session. STREAM A LITTLE CHOPPY

Over 650 people in the remote access view. Someone posted a screen-grab. This is breech and remote links could be cut entirely. NO SHARED SCREEN SHOTS!

BACK TO ACTION

COPA: You recall MYOB Screenshots. You said they were taken by Ontier
CSW: Yes, this is exlained in the detailed COC.

COPA: You said this wasn't impacted by the your input. Madden discovered changes though. I asked if you made an entry. You said you had not and said the screenshot was produced before dates where you would have had access. In the metadata, it shows March 2020. Other page shows March 2020 as well.
CSW: Well, these aren't screenshots. These are PDFs. They look like screenshots from a previous time turned into PDFs perhaps on March 2020. But the content of the screenshot would have been late 2019 some time.

For me to modify, I'd havd to break into Ontier and do it on their system.

COPA: I'm saying you gave Ontier files later.
CSW: No, this is FROM Ontier. I would have had to be AT Ontier.

COPA: Document system not pulling up docs. Do you recall a photo of the bitcoin white paper with your name at the top. Name crossed out and letters on the side with yellow stains and some staples. This is a primary reliance doc. It's a pleaded forgery. Madden found that it was sent by WhatsApp in September 2019. This other version has further annotations. In the core list of 20 pleaded forgeries. If it was genuine, it would show you're Satoshi?
CSW: It would help.

COPA: Mr Ayre tweeted in the McCormack trial that he has seen documents with rusty staples. He's your supporter?
CSW: Not my financial supporter. He is an investor in my companies and a colleague.

COPA: You have admitted that he was a funder.
CSW: I took out a loan against assets from Ayre.

COPA: You verified this with a statement of truth previously.
CSW: It says here there was a bitcoin denominated loan which would be paid back. He is paid back, and he is not a funder. I took out a commercial loan.

COPA: I suggest to you that your denial conflicts with your statement of truth.
CSW: If the words in the statement aren't clear, it says the loan exists, and it has been repaid.

COPA: Is this loan in a formal document?
CSW: Yes.

February 7, 2024 Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread.

DAY 3 Lord Justice Mellor exactly on time just like on previous days.

Opening: Housekeeping: We won "hottest courtroom" at 28 degrees celsius and will be moving by Friday.

Wright back on the stands wearing black on black.

COPA: you called into question Dr Plax's qualifications and his report. "Sr Managing Director of Digital Forensics with a history at Ernst and Young, etc... Expert testimony in criminal proceedings, software engineer, PHD in CompSci..." On the basis of that, you're wrong to say he isn't qualified.
CSW: No I'm not. CCE, CCNE are just basic certifications. his PHD is in analysis of detecting lying in chat. He failed his certification test twice. On top of that, to be an expert doesn't require forensic certification, and he has no certification in CentOS, VMs, Linux or Citrix, and he has never touched a metadata or metaframe system...

COPA: He's a digital forensics expert for 20 years, you're suggesting he's incompetant?
CSW: Yes

COPA: I suggest you're wrong. Let's go to Mr. Spencer Frinch: "Stroz Freidberg. Active data breach investigator. Worked for Ernst and Young on data mining..." Is Lynch certified enough?
CSW: No

COPA: He is an expert
CSW: The US Gov, years ago, set up framework for minimum levels of competency. He wouldn't even meet basic level of certification.

Mellor: COuldn't you point your solicitors to a good forensics?
CSW: CAH dismissed everyone I suggested and muddied that whole process.

February 6, 2024

Crypto Open Patent Alliance v Dr Craig Steven Wright "The Satoshi Trial" Master Thread. DAY 2

Starting in moments, I will not post tweet-by-tweet, but will use the thread tool. Subscribers will get extra commentary for $2.99 USD on X, and I will aim to be fair and honest despite the fact that I am a big blocker and in "Craig's Camp" rhetorically.

FOLLOW THIS THREAD Justice Mellor explaining reiterations of yesterday's decision to allow new evidence and specifying which items will and will not be allowed.

Shouldn't COPA want more forged evidence? Mr Sherrell (COPA's Expert) says if it's not forged, it would be extra prejudicial.

Explaining his thoughts and timing on evidence throughout the pre-trial period.

"the only way to keep everything on track was to push the trial back 3 weeks."

CSW says new documents (from a month ago) are crucial to prove he is Satoshi. COPA says they're clearly forged.

All of these issues required trial and couldn't be determined in the "PTR period."

"Wright 11 is an extremely long document. Appendix is over 300 pages... It is long, rambling and often irrelevant."

"Either way, it's better to get the most full view. Maybe he explains out the metadata issues... I understand that COPA will likely want to produce a full independent report but may wait until the cross exam of CSW. CSW shouldn't be deprived of the ability to plead his whole case."

The Devs' attorney says a line must be drawn. I agree. CSW should feel very fortunate. If it wasn't for the constant accusations of forgery, it wouldn't have happened. Now that we've started, there won't be more unless it's VERY convincing why I should compromise.

Shoosmiths' statement to be amended to "best of our ability" but it's already out of compliance at face value.

In reality, Shoosmiths cannot provide what is required because there's no indication how they could comply.

Also, tweeting about documents that weren't yet public is still under investigation.

Refrain from social media during the evidence period of the trial so you are not influenced. This applies particularly to CSW.

COPA asking for permission for Madden to produce a report.

"we can produce on Friday the 16th if we get the basic COC info by the 9th from the disclosure providers."

We don't want the witness statement to be public or made public by any parties herein.