This type of sentiments r a direct & tremendous insult against Allah in tht it clearly implies tht Allah simply doesn't know how to convey to the Quran's primary target audience (e.g., the Quraishi pagans) in language WHERE they were ACTUALLY guilty in terms of their shirk..1/14

https://twitter.com/ZabAkbar/status/2018069991883411458

If ALL the shirk happened in people's belief in their wrong ascription of who the true independent doer of actions is & who are asbab, then, it simply didn't matter, after securing exclusivity of true doer-ship to God alone, who u invoke for what and how.

The basic message..2/14

A fundamental error (or, rather a deliberate attempt to confuse people) from the ashari/quburi side is that they try to *restrict* the entire concept of tawhid to just "power".

So, they argue based on this erroneous notion that they build themselves - "if it is all about ..

https://twitter.com/EbnHussein1424/status/2008684874341695646

.. ascribing enormous powers, then, angels too are said to have immense powers over aspects of the heavens and the Earth, so, why is it not shirk?"

So, they then argue from this power-restricted understanding that the magnitude of power cannot possibly decide whether something..

His real goal is to absolve Rafidi-hinduism and quburi-sufism of all shirk/kufr (his hindu "sheikh" siddina even said the prophet (saw) gives by himself and controls time & space, no "dua-making" thing) and include them into monotheism.

To do that, he clearly adopted istiqlal..

https://twitter.com/MMetaphysician/status/1931087710560878606

..first & vehemently defended it as clear as daylight in several tweets and videos.

But, then, his hindu brothers & mentors from Qom and barelvindu centers probably told him to ditch istiqlal & use the "dua maker" sophistry instead for wilayat takwiniya which will be easier to..

@PanthersFortune @Farid_0v 1. False.

He VERY CLEARLY and directly says "controlling the universe independently vs. Allah giving the power to them to do that" (check attachment) and NOT "making dua to Allah to do things in universe" (his false projection on WT).

2. He did not .. @PanthersFortune @Farid_0v .. at all clarify his position. He just dodges answering the question by drawing hypothetical "ifs" that has nothing to do with what he clearly & repeatedly had said (he did not at all retract from his kufr).

Also, it isn't just one clip. In several others, where he responds ..

Does this guy even read what he writes?

On the one hand he says "what if the imam wields a power that is dependent", on the other hand, he says "it means the imam asks Allah to do things".

How is he "wielding a power to control all atoms of universe" if all he is doing is .. .. making dua to Allah for things just like anyone else?

If I ask my mom to make dua to Allah to send an Earthquake on z!os and save the Palestinians, does it mean I say "my mom wields the 'dependent' power to control all atoms of the universe to cause violent destructions..

In the clip itself where the shia "ayatollah" explains what "wilayat takwiniya" is, when he explains that Imams control every atom of the universe which are humble and ready to take command from the Imams, he adds that it is "totally dependent on Allah", i.e., NOT tafwid .. 1/5

https://twitter.com/MMetaphysician/status/1894277543559078339

..From get-go, this very clip is what Jou was asked to respond to, whether WHAT IS IN THIS clip descried as "wilayat takwiniya" of khomeini is shirk akbar or not, &, Daniel said it does NOT reach outright kufr.

It was LATER ON, tht Jou googled shia apologetics sites where ..2/5

My brother, why should it cause you doubt when the source of Islam (Quran and sunnah) is as clear that calling upon ANYONE other than Allah is polytheism as it can get?

Remember, not all who *CLAIM* to be Muslims are Muslims.

Islam is perfect. People are not.

Do you ..

https://twitter.com/UpstateBanks/status/1886604246302282231

.. not see how Allah links failure to single Him out in invocation (i.e., failure to call upon Him alone [calling upon others besides Him]) DIRECTLY TO associating partners with Him (40:12), and, how the prophet (salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) says that supplication is worship..

"Istighatha/tawassul" (when used by quburis/awnis/murijs) is a very loaded made-to-appear-Islamically-complicated-to-the-gullible term and is often used by quburis and their defenders (like the man in the screenshot) to cover the simple fact that it is de facto PRAYING TO .. ..demigods (omni-aware & omni-hearing saints) besides Allah. It is an attack against the very core foundational tenet "la ilaha illa Allah" (ilah = e.g., an object tht ppl pray to [thus, worship]).

And, the idea is very simple and universal.

Prayer is in & of itself worship..

One would really have to have the IQ of a bonobo to compare the notion of someone who when lost in a jungle/wood interacted with nearby localized supernatural creatures of very limited-reach and ability (certain kind of angels) and asked them a for directions out of the woods .. .. [an asking/interaction of very limited and localized reach, similar to what humans in day-to-day life interact with each other for] to the notion of billions of people from billion different places in billion different types of calamity-situations raising their hands up ..

We are 100% united with sufis, asharis, maturidis, quburis, jahmis, barelvis and everybody who call themselves "ahlus sunnah" *in the matter of being united in full cooperation against the zionist genociders*.

When did anyone EVER say "no, we don't need to talk about .. .. Palestine; or, no we cannot be united with each other to help Palestine"?

We are united with Norman Finkelstein who is not even a Muslim on this matter for our brothers and sister in Palestine.

So, what makes anyone think anyone is against uniting [in the aforementioned ..

So, if some "Muslims" were to cry to hanuman for help going "ya hanuman, help us, madad" going "we r not hindus, we don't believe hanuman is a god; it is only a powerful creature of Allah, it is not worship; Allah is the true giver, we are just doing tawassul thru hanuman", how..

https://twitter.com/IbnFirdos/status/1857180997227581717

..would it be shirk or kufr in your paradigm, likewise?

If your argument is "hanuman is an idol/known god", then, notice these "Muslims" in question negated tht saying "we don't believe hanuman is an idol/god; we believe it is a great saintly creature of Allah; Christians also..

Daniel, which part of this FB post is defending Rafidism from shirk (like you do) and insisting that Iranian Ayatollahs are muslims and that Twelvers cannot be takfired in general?

Our problem is with your whitewashing of Twelver crimes against Muslims, ascribing Islam to ..

https://twitter.com/Haqiqatjou/status/1842045257237856600

.. Twelverism (as represented by their top-scholars, leaders and heads) and seeking to unify Twelver Rafidism (Paganism) and Islam under one religion (with non-blasphemable differences of opinion) as "Islam" and unite with Twelvers in general "as Muslims".

Our problem ..

You r parroting the same rinse-&-repeat "nothing is worship, nothing is shirk: make all ur religious supplications for all ur needs to X,Y,Z besides Allah too, prostrate, do rituals to them, anything, as long as u say they r not independent of Allah or label them 'deities', u r..

https://twitter.com/mubeenr25/status/1598726718662926336

.. still a muwahhid, maybe just haram but u r still 100% upon tawhid, just say ‘biidhnillah/not independent of Allah’ and u are saved" -balderdash in your 1+ hour long video.

Why couldn't the quraish pagans come up with this genius idea to bypass shirk?

"we just have to tell..

"We are not 'praying to' other than Allah; we are just 'asking', or 'invoking', or 'calling upon' the awlia"

Are you folks playing fool or just don't know basics of language and concepts? (but, he is brave enough to rather call me a 'stupid' ironically anyway lol). First of..

https://twitter.com/aflatonwotor/status/1598048591439753217

..all, to "pray to" other than Allah means the EXACT same thing as to "invoke", or to "call upon" or to "ask" other than Allah. These words are interchangeable here.

The word "pray" itself (in the context of this discussion) simply means to ask, request; when followed by the..

Of course, JUST as you PRAY TO Allah for these. Only because you SAY that it's not what you are doing doesn't make it so, because in ALL PRACTICALITY, that is exactly what you are doing. You are PRAYING TO your saints JUST as people are supposed to rather PRAY TO Allah for .. ..the exact same things in the exact same manner -people raising their hands to the sky & asking for rizq, for long life (all that people ask Allah from the transcendental as part of faith) from a dead spirit of saint believing it knows everyone's situation everywhere then and..

Some "muslims" think that as long as you acknowledge Allah's Lordship and acknowledge that He is the *actual doer* of what is asked for [from other than Him (SWT)], then no matter what you ask for [rizq, long life, supernatural madad from calamity, eternality, jannah etc.].. ..in whatever manner (everyone, everywhere, simultaneously, any time, any language etc.), and whatever it is that you are asking from [tree, rock, spirits, saints, statues etc.] or however much power you ascribe [as long as they aren't being given the attribute of independence..

@hoodgyaal @StarbucksALB @Abu_1Meem @ahadunahad___ When you say that a supernatural spirit hears million people's requests from million different places simultaneously at the same time; is aware of everyone's situation everywhere (without having to explain individually), knows every language, doesn't tire, is available 24/7.. @hoodgyaal @StarbucksALB @Abu_1Meem @ahadunahad___ .. for every devotee out there at the same time as they request/invoke it etc. etc., then what you have is NOT a human being as we know them, it is in all its role and function an intercessory mini-deity (no matter how hard you try to convince otherwise and try to..