Reading some theory of mind stuff using “Strange Stories” and the way they interpret “incorrect” answers from Autistic people is uhh... yeah. No understanding of the Autistic brain at all.
You ask a logical question you get a logical answer. Not your weird interpretation of what the question was actually asking.
LOL the control group gets it wrong as well and they write it off as being lazy participants who didn’t take enough interest.
This paper doesn’t hold back on bad science. “Mental conflict monitoring” is the reason for lack of theory of mind. Literally we think too much about social situations. This basically means all the tests based on this theory which is all of them are junk. doi.apa.org/doiLanding?doi…
“Scholars thus manipulated alignment with an own representation in order to assess other-related representation abilities (in a praise- worthy effort not to make conclusions about this from socially aligning conditions only)“
MFW: Since 1986 people ran wild with a theory that has no basis in objective reality.
The icing on this cake is this paper:
“Autistic Adults May Be Erroneously Perceived as Deceptive and Lacking Credibility” link.springer.com/article/10.100…
We have no win conditions in life. Not believed when we tell the truth. Told off as children for telling the truth.
Pathologized for existing.
I’m not saying we’re all perfect. I’ve been honest about my deceit you can read countless blogs with confessions, but all the time I hurt people knowingly I was trying to fit in. It cost me so much mentally doing that.
“Imagine living your entire life with that kind of transparency.” - imagine not deceiving people. Can you imagine? This makes me so angry.
“a child who lacked social filters” - just say deceit. Say it’s deceit. That’s all it is.
Giving people like me moral OCD because I made some errors of comprehension then pathologizing it. Ugh. I was taught to focus on my failures through reinforcement. This part is so true.
It sucks because the second I do anything here to assert myself I live in fear of the next move of the medical model. The system makes you sick, then makes you sick if you improve too much.
The second we become confident we get called ‘sense of superiority’.
We are stuck in so many catch-22’s due to NT researchers inability to admit they are wrong.
Start using your vocabulary ‘You are manic’
Start feeling things as they are you have ‘BPD’
Feel depressed about stuff you are a ‘depressed person’
Feel anxious about stuff you are an ‘anxious person’
My entire existence is pathologized with no win conditions.
From the ABA website:
“Often people with autism are like three-year olds: They are brutally honest to a fault. While this trait can cause embarrassment, it also means this person hasn’t learned to lie, hide true feelings, sweep things under the rug, or manipulate.” 🤯😬
ABA is always bad. It’s based on denial of autonomy. Any version of therapy that does not centre the person’s needs is unethical. Sensory sensitivity, apraxia, dyslexia, dyscalculia, dysgraphia, epilepsy, anxiety - these have to be considered and more when helping Autistic people
Autistic communication styles needs to be discovered, we honestly will never shut up if you actually understand we are people. But the idea that intelligence can be measured when young is causing so many false positives that end up as awful self fulfilling prophecies.
NTs: Believe they can mind read motives, but cannot.
NDs generally: Understand that there are limitations to interpretation of statements due to constant misunderstanding of their words.
This I know because of how "friends" talk about each other behind their backs.
"x person was being such a y negative thing"
Instant assumption of knowledge of motive.
They never regard the situation or context in which a statement was made. I'm not saying ND people are perfect at this either, but they tend to account more for these factors. I think I give good advice to friends simply because I tell them to consider these things.
Btw imagining mental health diagnoses as spectrums rather than binaries reduces stigmatisation. Binary classification by definition creates classes of people.
Again this doesn’t mean things don’t exist or everyone is a little something. There’s a standard deviation on a spectrum and those who fall outside it are the ones subject to binary classification. I think this is one of the biggest problems in mental health. Fixed structures.
It simultaneously causes under and over diagnosis depending on the person interpreting the data from a subjective standpoint. So many biases are in play using a single assessment environment for mental health issues.
Opinion: Rejection Sensitivity-> Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (or Completely Plausible Traumatic Strain Defence) is probably a spectrum in mental health.
The reason I prefer the second name is that what they deem irrational fear in my case in the definition, I have reasoned backing for reacting in the way I do. I dislike being told that I’m being unreasonable in an unreasonable environment.
Here’s the second thing I’ll say. Rejection sensitivity is good actually when not used to abuse people, “rejection sensitivity” is people enforcing boundaries. “Justice sensitivity” is actually just being a decent person. They pathologise people who don’t lie about their feelings
Someone make a compilation of celebrities saying “Autistic people” as a therapy for me, please?
Yes it’s a tiny thing in the scheme of things, but the symbolism is much bigger to me. I cried. I know it doesn’t fix substantial problems.
My Autistic communication could be described as:
STATEMENT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT...
Pretty messed up this is how much people strawman me so often that I have to 8D chess public communication.
This is the thing that breaks my heart on a daily basis. The concept of "severe" Autism, and the way Autistic people are treated. Please watch this video - you may not realise the problems with current science. So many people do not.
Imagine being unable to communicate for many years, and everyone assuming you were being difficult and you were in pain, and you couldn't explain it. People just assume you are "stupid" but that's not the case. You just can't get your body to work how your brain needs it to.
Nearly every Autistic has theory of mind - it's bad science to assume that Autistic people do not understand - a lot of us are the most analytical people you will ever meet, but the calculation speed of analysis is microseconds. We have hyperplastic brains.
The main reason I might appear to be unemotional to people from the outside is because all my emotions are extreme. They can be very fleeting, but the intensity during them is nearly always the full extent, I can negotiate a middle expression but it adds more pressure for later.
Sometimes I have to shut down. Because in that situation I need to be logic, my emotions will interfere with my rational behavior. I was raised in a hyper masculine environment. I was told never to show them, but they’re always there, even if I can’t read them at that moment.
I can’t actually express myself naturally even at home because people feel discomfort, I am ok with my emotions - the thing that sucks is that everyone seems to have to want people to be “happy” all the time. I’d rather accept the emotions I have over the ones you want.
It's not enough but there will be a benefit of this at least to adult Autistic people and Autistic led charities.
@MarkRober seems to care, it wasn't a performance.
That's some money not going toward ABA/Eugenics instead of all of it.
This is the first step... one small glimpse of what is possible with everyone's advocacy.
LISTEN TO AUTISTIC PEOPLE.
It should never have happened this way. Ever.
But maybe people will learn from Mark Rober.
Research a wide array of lived experience from people from the affected group in future when you support or try and find answers. Charities have spent far too long leaving the voice of the affected groups out of the conversation.
A lot of people are making assumptions about my knowledge atm from within parts of the Autistic community. There's a huge difference between advocating for change, and having expectations that your actions will actually alter the allistic world.
I'm not being naive. Trust me.
I do not trust organisations that intentionally gaslight people. At all. Especially with no public acknowledgement of this still.
At the same time I also would like to see positive benefits from awful circumstances. I know so many Autistic people who would benefit from funding.
One of the biggest issues Autistic adults have with gaining traction is that we do not have the resources to compete with the gargantuan Autism industry.
Autistic people have far less than ideal reach due to many systemic issues that are compounded with intersectional concerns.
My biggest advice for self-advocates is to pick your battles. There are people you are never going to convince to change their minds. Anyone deliberately inflammatory should just be blocked. Time is the one resource you can’t get back, don’t waste it on those who prefer ignorance
I don’t argue with AutismMoms™️ who are convinced they are right. I instead focus my resources on changing the minds of those willing to listen. This month has been hell. Absolute hell. I’ve missed 11 nights of sleep to cPTSD triggers. If I’d spent time fighting, I wouldn’t sleep
Save that energy, you’re worth more than a fight you won’t win. I’ve seen so much stuff appear on my feed that I have to let pass. You don’t need to convince everyone. If you absolutely must. Refute then block. It’s a valid strategy to counter trolls and prevents further abuse.
I would not though.
It’s like the worst environment for recall - high stress, massive sensory overwhelm, not related to my categories for information.
Same for pub quiz.
I’m not sure why I can always find information for ND people who ask, but not NT people. 🤔
Maybe because of how they frame questions?
Most ND people start out their questions like “you were talking about...” or “You tweeted about...”
Is this the priming I need? /rhetorical 🤔
90% plus of Autistic research is framed around these three things:
* How do we force Autistic people to behave allisticly
* How do we ”eliminate“ Autism
* How do parent’s feel, what are their needs
There are two journals that recognise consistently that Autistic people are autonomous. One started two years ago. The other this year.
Thank you Autism in Adulthood.
The other is The Canadian Journal of Autism Equity
Interesting fact, these don’t work for a lot of Autistic people. Optical illusions aren’t uniform. A significant portion of Autistic people perceive things as they are, we don’t correct errors. Thread linked in second tweet on this.
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