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Apr 13, 2021, 11 tweets

Age 731, or earlier: in a rut after killing the goose that laid the golden scouters, the Saiyans team up with other aliens to further their development, a path that finally leads them to Freeza. Or maybe they started off working for Cold. Depends on who you ask. #HistoryofEver

The date 731 comes from the Daizenshuu 7 timeline (reused in the GT Perfect File timeline and elsewhere), which states that the Saiyans join up with Freeza around then, right after the Tsufruian war of 720 to 730 (and not long before Freeza terminates their relationship in 737)

In contrast, DBS: Broly presents the Saiyans as initially working for Cold, before Freeza is handed the reigns through good ol’ fashioned nepotism. Bardock says that Cold “subjugated the Saiyans by force”, although this was apparently “a long time ago”

The Bardock portion of DBS: Broly is set in...ugh, let’s just say 738, plus or minus 1. Either way, Cold subjugating the Saiyans “long ago” implies a much earlier date than 731. The movie also shows the Saiyans receiving scouters from Freeza, no Tsufruians necessary

Overall then, there seem to be about four or so different versions of Saiyan history: in the original manga, we just hear about them living on Planet Vegeta and getting blown up by an asteroid named Freeza

In the DBZ TV series, they originally shared Planet Vegeta with the Tsufruians, before wiping them out “long ago”. In the PtEtS/GT/daizenshuu version, they came to Planet Plant from elsewhere, then Vegeta’s dad led them against the Tsufruians and named the planet after himself

In the DBS version, they came to Plant Vegeta after wrecking Sadala, with no specified timeframe and no mention of the Tsufruians. Vegeta’s dad is the third King Vegeta, but he apparently did much to expand his kingdom

The PtEtS/GT/daizenshuu version is the one with all the specific dates, so that’s what I’ve structured these threads around, but its cramped timeframe for the Saiyan/Freeza partnership has always been shakey. The whole idea of sending babies implies they’ve been doing this longer

While so far the Tsufruians are a no-show in DBS, Toriyama did create them for the anime staff, and even mentioned them in a Q&A back in 2014, so who knows? Maybe Freeza picked up the scouters from Gichamu before regifting them to the Saiyans. kanzenshuu.com/translations/s…

On the other other hand, maybe Cold/Freeza’s trusted advisor Kikono invented the scouter, along with their army’s armor and spaceships, as claimed by his bio from the DBS: Broly website...though this idea was left out of the actual movie (maybe his full name is “Kikono Gichamu”?)

Tomorrow: a visit from Uncle Beerus!

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