Thread by @antiwar_soldier

Thread on recent Ukrainian propaganda photo. Implying execution of civilians. It does not mater how much we talk about, the lie has been spread.

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Here is a short video of the same place.

Here is the long video, we can see clearly that civilians on the street were caught in a midst of recent fighting during Ukranian counter-offensive on the street.

We can see a spilled beer and a plastic bag, civilian killed in unexpected attack. Need to have more information on wound type. It looks like a sudden attack. Can be return fire of ambushed column (most probable) mortar attack, other events.

Can not see other wrist, the only logical good faith explanation is the band civilians carry or wear in Russian controlled areas to show there civilian status. Other explanation is creation of a "shock pictures" and deliberate placement of a tissue by a photographer (hope not)

Important, if we get more pictures we can reconstruct by type of wounds and there location on bodies what has really happened. So far we only get pictures which deliberately do not tell the whole story.

More photos available.

Fresh shelling impacts are clearly seen.

Another video, multiple mortar impacts everywhere, clearly most civilians were killed in shelling. But some more interesting details can be extracted.

One "civilian" body can be seen with a pro-Russian white band on a sleeve.

On this still short you can see that those people were staying in cross road drinking bear (bear bottle on the ground and cup behind, personal belongings).

So far looks like Ukranian army executing "collaborateur" removing his sleeve band to his wrist.

Another plausible explanation is that sleeve band was moved from a sleeve to wrists to create a propaganda image.

Here are some stills of impacts showing that the street was shelled.

The way Ukraine blames Russia for shelling during it's counter offensive is despicable.

From this image we can be almost completely sure that territory was under Russian control when it was shelled by either mortars or MRLS.

Extremely valuable observation

Please spread this thread.

Those events were very fast presented by Ukrainian Ministry of Defence as a site of deliberate massacre blamed on Russia.

Just after publishing those images, main pro-Ukrainian propaganda account with more than a million followers published a message about a mass grave found in Bucha, with exact number of buried known without any excavation on site.

Conclusions :

1. The street was controlled by Russia and suddenly shelled. (multiple impacts, white cloth on a sleeve of dead civilian)

2. Hands were tied after the shelling. (clean cloth on dirty hands)

3. The whole event was presented by Ukraine MoD as a site of execution

The bodies do not move as some claim, it is just a bleak on a car windshield.

Please spread this thread.

The world was silent about tortures of Russian POWs, many claimed they were fake.

Now without any investigation western governments blame Russia and call for punishment.

Perfect timing HRW reports comes out the same day, citing accusations against Russian soldiers.

hrw.org/news/2022/04/0…

Not sure if true, but some claims:

Another photo from the same street showing marks of shelling impacts. Looks like MRLS fire.

#Important

Video from Ukrainian commander in Bucha:

Discussion in a background :

Question: "There are guys without blue sleeve bands, can we shoot them?"
Response: "####.. (unclear)"

Another picture, dirt on fingers after possibly falling from explosion. Hands tied with snow white clean white fabric.

Good post for those still claiming some movement on a video.

Video appears showing people with white bands at the place on 25.02.2022. This explains the beer bottle and cups. No arms can be seen. Looks like a checkpoint by locals or soldiers.

Possible reconnaissance video before counter-offensive.

Caption is obviously false.

Ukrainian prosecution office reports today that 99 collaborators have so far been detained on liberated territories in Kiev region.

Territorial defense and army is pretty harsh with potential collaborators.

Not sure white ribbons play a role.

#update
The previous image was of poor quality.

looks like hands not dirty, so the cloth might have been there before the death, hands might have been tied. Who knows why fingernails are black and skin is wrinkled.

decomposition? Burn?

For those still excluding the possibility of the shelling here is a video from Bucha around the same time.

A video appears of first interview, the only thing man says,"sorry, there was a tank behind" and drops in tears.

To early to say, but I guess if he had more to say to support Western version we would see it already.

On 2 of April, Ukranian police reported ongoing operation of purge of Bucha from collaborators.

The reason Butcha was chosen by Ukrainian PR for this supposed massacre might be English mnemonics.

Interesting detail from AFP, the Ukrainian passport was next to the body of dead man, was he trying to prove that he was Ukrainian?

Another new picture.. Burned car on the same street, another sign of shelling..

So far no one reports on wounds of the bodies on this street.

On 4th of April Ukrainian telegram channel posted this video of attacks on Russian retreating forces inside Bucha, multiple locations of shelling of urban areas can be seen.

A part of video deserving attention. Green Mitsubishi pick-up truck usually used by Ukrainian army and not in service in Russian army, either Russian capture or Ukrainian false-flag, (false "v" marking.)

link to the video of Artillery attack on retreating Russian forces, posted on pro-Ukrainian telegram chanel

t.me/irpin_b_politi…

Geo-location of the incident, Yablunska Street, very close to administrative border of Irpen.

1. Would be the first area to shell from Irpen. This would explain civilians caught by surprise.

2. Ukrainian authorities had access to location very early.

Enough evidence for Biden to blame Russia and send more arms.

Head of Bucha city council claims about saboteurs dressed in civilian clothes..

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