Started listening through the Church Of England synod to check the quality of the "affirm same-sex romance" arguments. Very first one from this AM's stream:
"What we have here is something that doesn't really add up. It doesn't make sense. And what I'm saying is that's okay."
Progs Stop Believing They'll Be The First Ones To Successfully Defy The Law Of Non-Contradiction Challenge (Impossible)
"The crucial question [is] whether people like me who–by our nature and birth are, just like the Gentiles were in Acts, different–can have sex. Are our sexual relationships sinful or do we, like Peter, accept God's command not to call anything impure that God has made clean?"
Imagine being over the hill with gray hair, apparently having been celibate this whole time, and still insisting that you can't live without sex
This guy changed his mind on queer affirmation because, while he was caring for a man dying of AIDS, he felt "this incredible sense of the presence of angels ushering him into heaven." (1/2)
"I'm not ashamed to say, yes, it was that revelatory experience...like Paul's on the Damascus road...that led me to years of prayerful study of scripture, and I began to recognize...I had no need to fear the sexual Other." (2/2)
me looking for the limiting principle that keeps this guy's argument from also affirming the "sexual Other" known as pedos
Romans 14! (an attempt was made)
"Don't permit an argument over what is served or not served at supper, or who wants to get married, and wreck God's work among us. All food is good. Everything God created is good." (1/2)
She ends with a reading of Revelation 7:9
"'A great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages,' and, I will add, genders and sexualities, 'standing before the throne...'"
(Revelation 22:18 could not be reached for comment)
DOPE PREACHER CLIPS: this thread needs some sanity
"I have studied every extant Jewish writing on the subject between 200 BC-200 AD. They are absolutely univocal. They say that any homosexual sex is sin...If [Jesus] did not regard that as sinful, he grossly misled his listeners"
Found the British Kristin Du Mez!
"In the early church debates, marriage did not mean sex...Betrothal, handfasting ceremonies, and bundling were commonplace, all traditions which specifically sanctioned and had liturgies around premarital sexual intercourse..." (1/2)
"So as a historian, no, the church has not taught consistently for 2,000 years that sex outside marriage is a sin...For much of our history, discussions about marriage have not been about sex primarily, but about power." (2/2)
The church should embrace "equal marriage" because Jesus "gives away power"
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