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The big, old, overly opinionated mortgage broker is worried about the future of housing for average Canadians

Dec 2, 2024, 6 tweets

The Great Toronto Condo Crash Gathers Momentum

The stories of losses on Pre-construction sub 500 sqft Dog Crate Condos & even on slightly larger 600+ sqft units just keep on coming

The same themes but different problems & really bad outcomes

More details are emerging

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A new twist is the difficulty in securing normal mortgages to close on these wildly overpriced units

In a great G&M piece this morning #rachelleyounglai describes an 8.3% mortgage rate on a $410K mortgage producing a $4200 payment including mortgage, condo fees & taxes

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The Buyers were turned down by their bank and were forced to take a huge mortgage rate

Rent on the unit is $2400 they lose $1800 every month

Or they could sell for a $75K loss, this Pre-Con unit was bought in 2018 & closed last January

A true financial disaster

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To make matters worse another Pre-Con unit closed in May & they lose $3050 per month on that one

Absolutely devastating losses that are hard to escape

@JohnPasalis had a great post this weekend

Toronto Pre-Con Condos became wildly miss priced 6 years ago

And no one cared

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People just kept on buying with a ridiculously false belief rents would increase massively & mortgage rates would be 2.49% forever

Buyers would snap up Pre-Con Condos at $1250 per sqft when Re-Sale Condos across the street were offered at $825 per sqft

WTF? It made no sense

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But here's a common feature: most of them minted money on previous transactions

The couple taking nearly $6K a month losses made a $500K profit on a 2013 unit they sold in 2022

They were Rental Condo Investors who really BELIEVED

Not anymore

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