The apparent crux was that diagnosising tension ptx should never happen via imaging because by then it's too late.
Leaving the debate aside, there's an interesting concept to discuss 1/
We call these "clinical diagnoses."
Teaching is that we docs must diagnose these dangerous time-sensitive problems using our brains, not our tests...
***Here's the thing***
All of those maxims, sayings, and phrases made up by old dead physicians...
They didn't have what we have.
They didn't have point-of-care ultrasound.
They didn't have STAT CT Scans.
We do!
This matters:
Because unlike back when these maxims were coined, we CAN get HELPFUL answers in MINUTES.
In most cases (if the patient is stable with regard to their vital signs), the choice on whether to put a needle in someone, or take them to the Operating Room can wait 10 minutes.
I'll give you an example.
I've seen a few cases of necrotizing fasciitis and ovarian torsion in the last year.
I was 85% certain of the diagnosis on sight.
I call the surgeons.
They want imaging before going to the OR.
"HEY! Nec fasc and torsion are clinical diagnoses that should NEVER be made on imaging! GET THEM TO THE OR! NOW!"
But I don't say that.
Why?
Because I understand the basic risk assessment that they are doing demonstrates wisdom and care.
In the case where the imaging is slam dunk negative, you've bought time to reassess things, and maybe avoid the knife.
And if the imaging is equivocal? Well...then you are back were you started and you've lost a few minutes.
In the cases where "time is organ" or "less time=greater chance of life saved," I think we pick those up and we get them to the OR in a hot millisecond.
But...
I'm sure that in 1935 (or heck 1975) the calculation was different.
I'm cool with it.
Avoiding unnecessary surgeries and not removing organs that didn't need to be removed are MAJORLY important.
But not in the same way that they were 20, 40, 60, 100 years ago.
Let's all work together to find that balance
In real life, I believe we almost always get it right.
We can be proud of that.
Go team modern medicine! Fin.