Or I might be told I’m not required and the nice usher has reserved a place for me in the reporters’ court. Which of course is on the other side of this massive building.
Live-tweets to follow...
[we are talking about Amber Heard (AH) turning 30 on 22 April 2016]
QC a big day for her a bit day for you too as you had a meeting with a new business management company - it started at 0730?
JD yes something like
QC and you were given bad news in that meeting about your financial affairs
JD yes ma’am
QC and after that meeting did ou take any drugs
JD v likely marijuana to calm myself
JD maybe it [mumbles]
Judge - sorry could you say that again your voice has been strong and loud but it dipped then
JD: Sorry - it’s starting to die [he chuckles]
Judge - would..
JD no I”m good thank you
QC so when you arrived what was your state of mind
JD i was in a low state given what I’d been through
QC there was wine and you drank some wine and the were magnums of wine, weren’t there?
JD: well when you have a group of 12 or more magnums make more sense
QC of. Course. and after the party you were reading in bed - then what
JD AH was very upset I was so late for dinner and everyone was talking about my
QC and you were just reading throughout this
JD I was trying to avoid any confrontation
QC and you were just reading, were you, on her 30th birthday party as she was talking to you about turning up to her event 2 hours late
QC yes we know and also you might have had a very good reason to but I am challenging your reading of a book whilst she was expressing her sadness and upset that you were late for her 30t birthfday party. Why? What were you reading?
QC did you tell her why you were late?
JD yes several times in the texts
QC not the texts - why didn’t you...
JD I’,m sure I did at first. But anything I said was not getting us anywhere, but as I said, she was ramping up and she’d drunk quite a bit of wine, as had everyone
QC including you
QC okay this is the alternative
JD; It was criticism
QC and you don’t like being criticised
JD I don’t mind being criticised, but this was beyond that. She was lighting me up
QC you were criticised and you were angry and you...
JD: no ma’am
QC after the bottle smashed you pushed her onto the bed
QC she tried to leave and you grabbed her by the hair and pushed her to the ground
JD: no ma’am
QC then she ran off, you chased her around and you chest bumped her
JD: no ma’am
QC so you called security
JD: it’s possible
QC and the two dogs were in the flat, Boo and Pistol - and Boo has toilet troubles doesn’t he
QC he has toilet accidents all over the flat, including
JD reckons Boo’s toilet problems aren’t that bad but accepts he has accidents
QC you didn;’t sleep in the your and AH’s bed, but AH did and the next day and it came to your attention that the cleaner Ms Vargas found faeces in the bed. She was not happy about this...
At first you thought this was hilarious.
QC and there were jokes like Amber Turd Amber in the Dumps going round.
JD it was so absurd so initially I did laugh it was so strange
JD: I was convinced it was either AH herself or one of her cohorts for defecating in the bed
QC well you said it was iO
JD well only iO was crass enough to have done something like that.
JD AH’s commercial agent at CAA
QC and he wanted to be yours to
QC and at this stage he was courting your favour?
JD courting my favour? An agent in Hollywood? Sure.
JD: I was upset because everything that we hoped for and tried desperately to make work was dead
QC yes but...
JD: based on one line here… that was about a question in terms of Ms Heard’s attitude
QC theses are texts between you and AH and you say “call me when you get this, goodnight”
then she says “sorry I missed you - shooting - are you still in Europe” you say “London” and you’re in a meeting and say you’ll be out in half an hour...
a text from you to her
JD: yes ma’am
QC so you were talking in a civilised way nothing to suggest she was pestering you
QC yes it was my own word but you could get the impression of this from your statement
JD what I wrote then is how I felt
QC sadly your mother lapsed into a coma on or around the 17 May and you flew to see her - your mother was called...
JD: yes ma’am
QC and sadly your mother passed away. did you deal with the stress and pain of losing your...
JD: no ma’am - there was a lot going on - business, relationship with Amber
QC: yes I suggest you hit the controlled drugs and you hit the alcohol
JD: no I could not as there was too much going on. I did not inebriate myself to the point of numbness.
QC in your statement you say...
JD: no ma’am
QC when did it come up?
JD I wasn’t there for very long. 30 mins
QC so in that 30 min you thought it was appropriate to bring it up
JD she brought it up and I said let’s call Kevin and ask him...
QC you used this conversatoin to provoke her - you went there to cause trouble
JD: no I didn’t
QC you were there for 30 minutes and spent most of the time having a conversation about who had...
JD: Ms Heard was very keen to clear it up and say it was the dogs, which is physically impossible, which is why I suggested calling Mr Murphy. In terms of what I was going through, this was not something I thought was important which is why I got..
QC you arrived under the influence of drugs and drink. you were angry and you brought it up.
JD a human being had defecated on the bed, and that was in question
QC you broiught the subject up
JD: no ma’am
QC you were there 90 mins, you were ranting
JD: i was there a short period of time
QC are you sure?
QC at 8.06pm AH asks Roxy to come over to the flat immediately can you think of why?
JD: I can
QC all part of the hoax?
JD: yes and no - she said he thinks you did it
QC okay. and Mr T-W was laughing at your suggestion and laughing at you
JD: i heard laughing
QC: at you
QC so you were angry
JD peeved… yes angry
QC: and you were screaming abuse at Mr T-W
JD: I had very little conversation with Mr T-W
QC and then you threw the phone onto the sofa
QC: AH retrieved the phone and Mr T-W still on speakerphone told her to get out of the flat.
JD: I don’t recall.
QC you grabbed the phone from AH for a second time
JD: no ma’am
QC and you threw it not it at the sofa and you threw it like a baseball at AH’s face and...
JD no ma’am
QC and then you demanded she show you were it hit her face
JD: no ma’am
QC: and T-W who was still on the call told her to call 911
JD: yes he did
QC: and he sent texts saying call 911
JD: I don’t know about these
JD: yes all part of the hoax
QC Roxy arrived and tried to get inbetween you and AH?
QC: and you pushed Roxy out of the way and AH collapsed on the sofa and then was being...
JD says no to pushing, no to AH collapsing and yes to AH being comforted by RP
QC and then you started swinging a bottle of champagne and when security came in she said “if she hits me one more time I’m calling the police”
JD she was screaming “stop...
QC that last part is agreed. and you left your apartment
QC you caused that
JD: I’m sorry, no ma’am
QC she has a mark on her cheek
QC the date is 21 May. can you explain the reddening on AH’s cheek?
JD: no I cannot
JD she had a different mark, yes
[we go through photos which QC says shows the mark becoming more pronounced]
JD I can’t see it becoming more pronounced
QC but you see a mark
[we are going through a series of photographs all taken on 27 May all showing a red mark on her cheek]
QC you accept there is a red mark on her cheek
JD: yes ma’am
QC you caused that when you threw the phone at her
JD: no ma’am that’s not true.
[and then we see some cctv footage of johnny pacing up and down in a lift]
QC you were angry
JD: yes I was upset - I was angry and upset
QC and then you...
[I’ll try to get the text of that text]
[we are now seeing another text sent two days later]
QC why do that. you didnt need to
JD it was a sincere apology
QC it was a sincere apology for hitting her in the face with your phone
JD no it was an apology for not being able to make it work
QC by 4 June you were feelling..
QC text “I want her replaced on that WB film” a message about the film Aquaman - and there was going to be a film about the next Aquaman film which was going to have her in it.
JD: I was aware of that film
QC and there was a
JD that was many years later
QC Which you orchestrated. No
JD At the time I sent that text I did find myself without a voice. I had gone, if you’ll pardon the expression from Cinderella to Quasimodo...
[QC then reads another text out which he sent to Christian Carino at CAA. JD calls her a "pointless dangling flappy fishmarket” among other epithets. I’ll get the full text asap.
"She's begging for total global humiliation... She's gonna get it. I'm gonna need your texts about
San Francisco, brother... I'm even sorry to ask...
gave her some shitty lawyers... I have no mercy, no fear and not an ounce of emotion, or what I
once thought was love for this gold digging...
overused flappy fish market... I'm so fucking happy she wants to go to fight this out!!! She will hit
the wall hard!!!...
fucking sublime little Russian here... Which made me realize the time I blew on that 50 cent
stripper... I wouldn't touch her with a goddam glove. ...
takes the gift of breath from her...
Sorry, man... But, NOW, I will stop at nothing !!! Let's see if mollusk has a pair...
face to face.... I'll show him things he's never seen before... Like, the other side of his dick when
I slice it off…
This should last an hour and then that will be JD. Still no word on who among the 5 listed witnesses today as to who will be giving evidence this afternoon.
Technicals. I think it;ll be another late finish today.
"That was it. The last encounter forever. You were already ready to strike!!! Why did I even come
there in the 1st place??
you wanted was to make me...
understand how I fell in love with you... You're not her. I loved you more than anything... I did
everything that I could. But, you never fuckin' loved me... I was merely convenient for you...
hope our divorce goes as quickly as possible and that it is as painless as possible. So sorry you
were as unhappy with me, as you were..., obviously, the purity of whatever was, has been gone
for a long time...
was I thinking??
I wish you all you merit...
The Former Him”
JD - Johnny Depp
DS - David Sherborne - his barrister
This scheduled for an hour tops.]
Still no word on which of today's five scheduled witnesses will be giving evidence this afternoon. The five are:
Kevin Murphy (video link - Chicago)
Travis McGivern (video link) Officer Tyler Hadden (video link) Officer Melissa Saenz (video link)
The court is discussing my application for transcripts and the parties are agreed they will be supplied and the judge has said therfore they will be supplied when made available.
And I’ve just had his clerk email to confirm that. Nearly there.
DS you xe started with the idea the people you employed were yes-men/women. Is that true?
JD: no it’s not an accurated description of the people around me
DS if you were being violent to a woman would you express your team to turn a blind..
DS Ms W. brought up some press clippings and reports to suggest you were a violent man. The first was in 1989 where you were arrested for assaulting a security guard. Where there any charges?
JD he took me to court, we went to trial
DS and you remember when you’d allegedly “trashed” a hotel room and you were shown an article which suggested there was $10K damage done and it was suggested you deliberately...
JD: I do
DS: let’s have a look at another press report about this hotel room incident and you’ll see here do you see the final para?
DS: Depp’s lawyer said the damage to the hotel room only amounted to $2000
JD: I was pretty sure the damages was far less than suggested
DS: did you ttry to avoid paying?
JD: no sir - I told security I would pay
JD: asleep in bed
DS Were you going along with the suggestion that you trashed the hotel room after an argument with Kate Moss?
JD: I was going along with her, I was going along with the truth. Kate Moss was not involved it had nothing to do with Kate Moss.
DS how long did you go out for Kate Moss for
JD 3.5 years
DS did you ever in that time hit Kate Moss?
JD: no I didn't
DS it was put to you they were just doing their job of taking a photo of you in a public place
JD yes they wanted the novelty of a photograph of me and my pregnant girlfriend and the baby bump
JD describes the property
DS has another go
JD describes the space
DS how were they behaving?
JD they were ...
DS so we fast forward 20 years to 2018 where you allegedly punched someone. you said you had not in any way physically touched Mr Brooks on the set of the film City of Lies and because of this man’s behaviour towards a lady, an African American...
DS what did he say
JD he was hurling around what he thought was his power as location manager in an incredibly disrespectful way
DS what did you say to him
JD: in essence I said what gives you the right to be ...
DS Could I ask you to look at a file?
[we go to the bundle]
JD after, at the end of the night when I was wrapped I asked my assistants to grab...
DS so he asked you
DS Ms Wass says you’re the sort of person who becomes very...
JD no it’s just her suggestion
Have you ever hit a woman?
No sir, never. Sorry.
Judge - you said no
JD I said no
DS has any woman ever accused you of hitting them in your 57 years?
JD no sir
DS is that box file about to collapse?
JD: not sure. no it’s okay
DS: I’ll let you know if it looks like it is
JD: if it starts to teeter
[back on track]
[we are discussing a nurse taking a medication history from AH]
JD: yes sir
DS lists eating disorder, bipolar disorder, insomnia and prone to “several outbursts of anger and rage” “both her and and her fiancé reporting verbal disagreements… nervous about feeling alone whilst husband was working… feelings of...
JD: yes it does
DS was there any violence in your relationship with Ms Berkeley?
JD: no not at all
[DS is reading from an interview with Ellen Barkin in which she says he never put hands on her]
[Right I’m getting hopelessly confused. DS read from an interview where EB said JD was no violent. Then we go to the deposition to the American courts in which EB said there was an air of violence about him]
DS was AH someone who used her phone a lot?
JD: yes constantly all the time -
DS did she take photos and videos of herself
JD: lots. Quite a lot.
DS thank you Mr Depp
JD: thank you
DS you once said the word Monster can mean many things. When it came to arguments with AH and you would argue back with and as a result you would get heated and say things to each other which were quite unpleasant . What would set off this kind of...
JD" it could be anything. this is an odd example, but its representative of the whole. AH was in the habit when I would get back from work that she would come over to me and take my boots off which was a beautiful ...
JD “It’s almost as if she had rules - if the routine was not met to her standard… an argument would ensue and all hell would break loose."
JD the monster story came from AH and she rather liked the idea that I was the monster, and if you’re having an argument adn you’re trying to explain your position and things would escalate and that was what she called the monster...
DS in this context lets go to an email
[can’t hear DS when he reads from emails/texts]
[they keep going through these exchanges… asks if he was being serious in what he said]
JD it was ludicrous exchanges
JD Jack is my son
DS your son with…?
JD: oh sorry my son with Vanessa Paradis
DS: yes sorry it’ just that the court needs to know
[Jack is mentioned in a text between a Marino and Mr Dueters]
DS who is Marino in this text?
JD it is Vanessa Paradis, the mother
[DS and the judge are discussing further re-examination of JD after lunch. DS wants another hour. There is discussion about moving the overseas video links ]
[the two police officers are now the only people giving evidence this afternoon]
Okay that’s it we’ve risen for lunch. We’re back at 1405BST to have one more hour of Mr Depp. then the two above-named. I’m going to see if the court tech people can sort DS’s mic. It’s awful.
Got a proper lunch today. Avocado and sun-dried tomato baguette. Yum.
Johnny Depp (JD) is in the witness box being re-examined about his evidence over the past three days by his own barrister DS.
DS is asking about a text on 6 Aug 2014 in Bahamas for detox
JD confirms AH is using his phone to ask Rocky to bring mushrooms to the Bahamas.
DS so this is two days before - RP and AH are making plans to take mushrooms to the Bahamas.
First time is apparently re your tattoo. You had all your alleged violent incidents read out to you and you were supposed to deny and confirm and you denied them all...
DS when did you get it changed from Winona to Wino
JD: in about 1993
DS: so throught yor relationship up to the incident in 2013 - 18 months - it has always said Wino Forever…?
DS was it the first time she’d seen it?
JD no sir
DS now it’s suggested when she teased you about the tattoo you got so cross you hit her three times so her “eye almost popped out”. How many times by that point would she have seen that tattoo?
DS let’s go to the argument about the painting by AH’s former wife which you got so angry about you bust her lip on the day you were meant to be on set with Keith Richard, but they are separate incidents. It is said to you...
Sasha Wass QC interrupts - the painting you’re about to be shown is not the painting Mr Depp tried to set fire to.
Judge - DS - you just
[of course, we can’t see this painting]
DS looking at this painting - did you at any stage set fire to this painting
JD no sir it’s suggested I tried to light a wooden frame glass with a lighter, but I didn’t
DS why make reference to this wooden frame...
DS now it was suggested that you upset AH when you insulted her former wife and you said actually AH had some bad things to say about her herself?
JD yes when they split up...
[we move on to a text between JD and AH’s sister Whitney]
DS it says “I love you precious” - who wrote that?
JD isn’t sure
DS who sent the photos - you to Whitney or her to you
JD I sent the photos
DS that’s a photo of something you did - wrote a P on the glass and sent it to Whitney
DS what was the nature of the. Argument when you were meant to be on set for the Keith Richards documentary
JD there was a dinner the night before. there was a hispanic girl and she spoke of...
JD yes because I broiught the truth up AH was very upset, the young lady was very upset and I thought we should have a discussion and she was reluctant to do so and I thought it was important to stay to talk about it.
JD I did I called my 1AD and my DOP and the focus-puller and as it was a not a day I had to interview Keith Richards [he retells the story that he was not needed on set cos KR and Tom Waits were being filmed playing in his studio]
JD she definitely poured me a whiskey - the lines of cocaine early in our relationship…
DS is that an example of her being supportive in your relationship with drink or drugs?
JD well... she was getting me a drink.
DS why would she do this
JD does not know
DS it was suggested..
JD that’s not true
DS did you make them come with you or did you take them
JD they just came along
[we have a photo of this them on set]
[It is of Whitney, Keith Richards, JD and AH]
JD no sir, there’s no mark there
DS AH says everyone was so annyoed the shooting of the doc was held up...
JD "that’s not correct, I was not necessarily needed that day"
DS "if KR was annoyed with you for messing him around, would he be worried about telling you?"
JD no he would not
Judge - 7.15 sit for dinner should I be above there?
Judge I see...
JD I didn’t see this at the time, but that seems to be hte plan
DS were there drugs at the dinner?
DS shall we break off?
Judge is it realistic to get to the ...
DS i was going to suggest we break off to go to the witnesses
Judge - wouldn’t it be better to let Mr Depp finish his re-examination and postpone the video link witnesses
I have to leave court at 4pm my time. It’s currently 3.06pm
Sasha Wass QC is questioning:
QC you are LAPD specialising in domestic violence
QC a victim mauy be in fear of the perp and love him at the sam time
QC and it is not unusual a victim may refuse to engage with police...
Officer: yes that is common
QC so the police have to tread a difficult path between assisting the victim and respecting the complex nuances of the situation
[agh ignore the JD above it’s the Officer in the last two tweets]
[QC comes to this case]
QC the info on the material we have been provided that on 21 May 2016 somebody said a firend of hers was being assaulted by her husband
QC what were you told.
OS that a third party had called out of state and reported an assault and gave the address of the apartment in LA
QC did you make a note of what happened?
QC anything else
OS there would be an automatic record
QC a computerised document called Incident Recall
OS yes ma'am
OS yes it did
QC you have given a deposition about this on 18 July 2016 - 8 weeks after
OS yes ma’am
QC and in that you told the court in America by a "generic white male"
QC did you ask his name
QC so no record of his name
QC there was another woman in that complex - did you ask her name?
OS no I did not
QC when you got to the penthouse you were met by the Generic White Male ...
QC you had heard of JD, but you didn’t know he was involved with the incident
QC you met AH in her apartment
OS she was in his apartment
QC you’re right. And she was crying and not giving
QC and it was quite clear she did not want to speak to police
QC and you have come across this many times in a domestic violence occurrence
QC you offered to speak to her in private
OS I did
QC and she asked to have her...
OS her face was red, but it didn’t appear there was injury on her face
QC she was not making eye contact with you. you didn’t see her full face on at any time, did you?
QC did you examine her face?
OS I was in the hallway before we entered her home and in the hallway which had the brightest light and I was comfortable she had no injuries on her face..
OS we did we stopped and talked, she refused to answer any questions so I suggested we go to her apartment
QC how thorough was your examination of her face was?
OS extremely thorough
OS on some instances - yes
QC did you see reddening on her cheek which could have been the genesis of a bruise
OS I observed reddenning to the face
QC which you attributed to being...
QC and it was in the hallway that you established she wasn’t interested in talking to you
OS there was a lot of back and forth the whole time
QC she was fully clothed
QC so you couldn’t see if she was injured elsewhere?
OS I don’t recall saying that
QC would that be something you would routinely say?
OS yes it’s something I’ve said before
QC and you have no notes of your visit to the Eastern Columbia Building, and the only thing you gave is a visiting card to AH
QC did you tell anyone else in the buidling your ID other than AH?
QC so other than knowing there was a visit by police no one eexcept AH and the people with her knew Melissa Saenz was with her
QC is there a protocol with regard to allegations of DV in the US
OS when we arrive we determine after interviews whether a report is sufficient or not
QC in this case you did not produce a report but you gave your card to the victim. Why give your card with AH unless you believed...
OS I give my card to everyone I meet on calls.
QC in this case the case was closed at 9.22pm that night, so when you came to give your evidence in the US, this was a non-crime?
QC but it was obvious to you and your colleague that this was going nowhere
QC AH didnt’ want to talk and you did not have the ID of the perp
OS correct she was uncooperative
QC did the Generic White Male show you broken items around the apartment
OS no he did not
QC he did and you still decided the case was going nowhere
OS that’s not correct
OS 30 - 60 minutes
QC we have CCTV evidence you arrived at 9.04pm and left 9.14pm. do you remember shaking the GWM’s hand?
OS I do not agree with that statement
OS I did
QC and you missed the damage to the flat
OS I searched the entire flat and there was no damage.
OS I don’t know
QC Does the name Sean Betts, a former LAPD officer mean anything to you?
OS no. never heard of Sean Betts.
DS for Depp on his feet for re-examination of OS
DS did you or did you not get a clear look at AH’s face on the occasion that you spoke to her in the hallway
OS I did get a clear look at AH’s face
OS no I did not
DS in your deposition you say you had a second look at AH’s face. Any injury on her face of any kind then?
OS no I did not observe any injuries
DS Thank you officer Saenz
Judge thanks Officer Saenz.
He rises for 5 mins. We’re going to get the last of JD. I will stay as long as I can, but I really should go at 4pm. Other commitments. Sorry.
“We are back in Hicksville”
DS you were asked about cocaine and you said you didn’t do it that time and you don’t do MDMA was a waste of time
JD: it doesn’t affect me much
DS: doesn’t get you high and that sort of thing
JD: no not really...
JD; not really
DS but you take marijuana? Why
JD it calms me
DS does it turn you into a paranoid tailspin
DS does cocaine make you hyped up and paranoid?
JD no it is a replacement…
Judge just a minte…
JD hacving been addicted to the...
DS so it’s a serotonin replacement? sorry to cut in. there was a girl there called Kerry Sue and she had her hands on AH and she didn’t really know what she was doing. and the argument started...
JD [he just explains where the bathroom was in relation to the trailer]
DS did you admit the damage you caused?
DS did you try to play it down
JD not at all
DS at that point in July 2013 you said you were suspicious of AH because she had told you one thing and was doing him another. Before you said she described him unflattering terms.
JD yes as “creepy and rapey” and “sexually aggressive"
JD: depending on headwinds 6hrs, maybe, tops
DS it was suggested that you didn’t sit there drawing at all and you made that up
JD she suggested that, but I was drawing in my journal.
DS: why did you go to the bathroom on the plane?
DS was that the only time
JD I’ve slept on many bathroom floors to escape her
DS we were shown a photo of you next to a bed. Do you often sleep in beds
JD: I prefer to sleep on couches
DS: that recording of that moaning noise. heard that before?
DS it was suggested it came to you from the Boston flight. we asked for the metadata and we wer told we already have it. we asked for the raw file and didn’t get it. this is all we have [hands JD a file] all we have in the metadata is just a year… you did say...
JD mine says 2019
DS That’s interesting
Judge mine says 2014
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