2) Tara Roberts - manager of Depp’s private island resort in the Bahamas (in the Bahamas)
4) Hilda Vargas - the cleaner who found the poo in the bed in AH’s apartment (in LA)
Proceedings are due to start today at 10am BST. I will be live-tweeting throughout the day.
David Sherborne (for Johnny Depp) arguing with Sasha Wass QC.
The shorthand is as follows:
MC - Malcolm Connolly
DS - David Sherborne
Judge - Mr Justice Nicol
After this argument Sasha Wass QC (who represents NGN) will cross examine MC (who has now taken his specs off).
He lives in Essex, England, btw.
10. I shouted at Johnny words to the effect of "Come with me, you are coming with me". I then took his arm trying to move him out, but he broke away. ...
MC I heard the following morning there was a light broken
DS was it ever suggested to you that the whole cabin was smashed up and trashed?
MC No
[we move to the orient express train journey]
MC no not at all
DS it’s been suggested JD punched and attacked her and made her fear for her life - would you have not noticed any injuries
MC no not at all
DS did you treat AH differently because you worked for JD?
MC no not at all...
[QC on her feet]
QC AH and JD separated in 2016 and your view was that you didn’t want to take sides
MC I agree
QC you say she has always been respectful and professional - but you say JD is your boss and friend
MC yes
QC so you were torn...
QC that’ schanged now, hasn’t it?
MC no
QC you’ve made a witness statement and this is the first time a statement has been submitted to the court which are new recollections which the court has heard for the very first time
MC I don’t understand
MC I was never asked before
QC but you can recollect it clearly - is that your evidence
MC no
QC did you go inside the trailer
MC only to check it beforehand
QC okay I think we can move on
Judge and so you saw no damage
MC yes sir
QC your statement dated 5 years after the event in 2020 deals with your recollection of...
MC yes
QC do you remember sending thos etexts saying you were 30 mins, 20 mins, 10 mins away?
MC.I don’t recall but it would be standard operating procedure
MC yes
QC and there was an argument going on when you arrived?
MC yes
QC could you hear what wJD was saying?
MC no
QC why not
MC I was outside
QC and when you got inside what state was he in
MC distraught
QC was he coherent?
MC yes
QC completely coherent?
QC was he drunk?
MC I don’t think so
QC I think we have established he was - would you say he was on drugs
MC I don’t know
QC have you ever seen him take drugs?
MC no I’m not party to that
MC no - JD was in the house and we extricated him from the house
QC your statement says you didn’t get JD out of the house easily, but you did - and JD said to you look at my finger - she’s smashed my fucking finger with a vodka bottle and he told you...
[MC shakes his head]
QC JD has come up with a variety of explanations for smashing his finger. On the way to the hospital you discussed coming up with an alternative explanation such as slicing...
MC only to protect Amber and Mr Depp
Judge hang on you’re being asked to confirm that other explanations were being discussed
MC we were - I came up with the smashing in the bifold/accordian doors
QC oh that was your lie was it?
QC and that could have happened
MC no because there was a safety device in the doors
[we go to a new file]
[it is a very long text from JD to Dr K saying that he was fucked, had another one, she’s as full of shit as an xmas goose… malicious evil and vindictive cunt…]
educational ranting is her hideously and purposely hurtful tirades and her god damn ...
MC yes
QC was he demanding drugs when he got there
MC not from me
QC then asks him about the “whitey stuff” and “e business” text JD sent.
QC what’s whitey stuff
MC probably cocaine
QC and e business?
[they talk about the damage to the house]
QC you say AH was uninjured
MC I was sat outside trying to get JD in the car AH came to the door - she was screaming and shouting
QC I think here arms were bare did you see any scratches
MC no
QC sure?
MC yes
MC no
QC and you would see a bruise on her face
MC yes
[we are going back to the transcripts of the recording made in the house]
[it is completely indistinct to us in the reporters court]
Judge can we turn the volume up a little bit please?
QC do you recognise thaht as JD’s voice?
MC yes
QC was that the condition he was in when you met him at the house
MC yes
QC this is a five hour recording which picked up conversations between JD and Dr K and JJ...
MC not JJ
QC and Dr K
MC no not when I arrived
QC do you think you might have got this wrong, 5 years on?
MC no.
MC JJ was at the house NOT at the incident. He arrived after I extracted JD from it
Judge so..
MC yes
QC okay well this is JJ in the transcript suggesting that he has seen scratches on AH’s arm and he is suggesting they are self-inflicted. How could you have missed this?
MC they weren’t there - JJ had four hours with Amber after I
QC so you are suggesting those scratches appeared after you left whilst she was with JJ
Judge. well his last remark was from a distance
QC are you saying those scratches appeared after you left or you might have missed them
MC when...
QC so did you miss them?
MC no
QC and JJ says to you that you [ie you as a security team] need to get JD “help"
MC yes
Judge - did that relfect your view?
MC yes sir
QC JJ is saying that JD cut the top of his finger off on a broken bottle and we’ve found the piece and we’ve got to put it on ice
MC i have no recollection of this
QC your account is that JD told you AH had done it
MC that’s correct
MC my account is true.
[incidentally the ushers have shown me how to operate the aircon antarctic/saharan control and permission to use it. we’re currently slowly warming up past “tolerably stuffy”]
QC here in the transcript - this is JJ suggested that AH slapped JD and she has a bruise...
MC no I did not see a bruise
[it is a photocopy of a diary entry]
QC is this a diary entry
MC I don’t know
QC does it say Smithsons at the bottom
MC yes
MC yes
QC the trip to SE Asia was in 2015 do you agree?
MC yes
[the orient express honeymoon]
QC this is AH’s diary - “arrived in Singapore” - “after 3 hours of sleep and the terrible fight... we are both walking zombies today"
MC yes
QC and a sentence over the pages that says “A night that ended at 3.30 and was brutally interrupted by the train’s imminent arrival to the Singapore station…" after 3 hours of sleep it felt like the two of us smashed together in desperate childlike...
QC did you hear this fight?
MC I did not
MC same carriage - two cabins down
QC if this fight had happened, would you have known about it?
MC I would never have known about it
[no further questions]
DS [for JD] on his feet
DS in Hicksville you said you didn’t see any damage]
MC correct
MC yes
DS now Ms Wass put it to JD that…
Judge - now DS - re-ex is about the xe of a particular witness…
DS yes but QC put it to JD that the security team went to the owners to sort out the damage. So MC did you do that?
MC no
DS have you ever seen this diary entry before
MC no nevr
DS she says she was hit and suffered injury as a result. Did you ever see any injury
MC no never
DS did she tell you she had...
MC no never
DS if she had received injuries would you have seen them
MC yes
[we go to the March 2015 Australian incident]
DS there were texts sent from JD to NH. They refer to “whitey stuff” and “e”
MC have you seen that text before...
MC no never
DS did ou see any drugs being passed between JD and NH?
MC no that would be kept from me and Debby (JD’s nurse)
DS you were played a tape and you agreed it was JD’s voice
MC correct
DS and he was upset and angry
MC yes
DS tell the court why
DS and was he angry with Ms Heard?
MC yes he told me “she’s cut ma fuckin’ finger off”
DS first thing he said to you?
MC his first words were “just give me a fuckin’ minute"
DS you said that he said “she just cut ma fuckin’ finger off” were the first words he said
MC sorry I do apologise - those were the first words he said to me when I got him out of the house
MC yes
DS what experience do you have
MC I am an ex-prison officer and I have experience in extracting prisoners from riot situations and...
DS you’re trained to spot bruises
MC yes
DS you say other explanations were arrived at
MC to protect the production and the usual victim pattern is to protect the abuser
MC yes
DS what was the truth
Judge Mr Connolly wasn’t present when the injury took place
DS I’ll move on my lord
DS can I ask you about the cigarette burn - JD told you AH had put the cigarette out on his face
MC yes
DS we can see his face and and we can see a mark on the right side of his face. what’s that?
MC that’s the cigarette burn
MC no
DS then you were taken to the passage about the bruise that AH had - JJ is saying she has a bruise - do you know where the bruise was?
MC no
DS and this hitting and slapping that JJ is talking about. Was this a one off?
MC no
DS in Australia
[we go to a series of text messages - one from JD to MC and one from MC to JD and then we get to text number 3…]
DS so JD says to you “plese get her out of this room now - she’s struck me about 10 times. Can’t take any more”
MC yes I see that
MC no
DS Did you ever witness JD physically attack AH at any time
MC no - I wouldn’t tolerate any man striking a woman. no matter who he is?
DS not even if he’s your boss
MC not even if he’s my boss. Not even if he was the
DS not even if your livelihood depended on it.
JD I don’t depend on JD. I work for Johnny. i can get a job somewhere else
DS it was put to you that you had been pressured into coming out for JD in this trial
MC absolutely untrue
[no further questions. MC leaves]
[she is sworn in]
QC you are estate manager on JD’s private island
TR I am
QC do you live on the island
TR yes
QC does your family live on the island
TR no
QC where do they live
TR Arizona
QC do you live alone or with others?
TR 3 others - 4...
QC do you consider it your home
TR no
QC but you’re totally dependent on JD for your livelihood
TR no
QC he gives you your job, accommodation - it’s your livelihood
TR i have other sources of income
QC what that allow you to live independently
TR we have a family...
QC would you be sad if you lost your job
TR I’ve never thought of it - I’d be sad losing the friends I made, but I’d find another job
QC in your statement you say “I never saw JD, who is an unusually kind man be violent or aggressive with Amber...
TR correct
QC I am going to sho you a video clip
[we see a clip of JD kicking things as AH secretly films him]
[there is more crashing off camera - he pours himself a glass of wine - AH asks if he has drunk that much this morning - he strikes something which causes the camera to move and we lose the shot, there are...
QC did you see that was JD?
TR yes
QC Did you see him kicking things?
TR I saw him slamming a cupboard
QC did you see him kicking things we can show you it again
DS My Lord she wasn’t there and this video isn’t...
Judge - QC just ask your question
QC have you ever seen him act like that before
TR no
QC would you agree that’s a different side to him than in your statement
TR I’ve never seen him act like that
QC would you agree it shows a different side?
TR yes
[QC takes her to TR’s recollection of damage whilst JD was on detox in the Bahamas]
QC did you meet Dr K who was the doc involved in JD’s detox
TR yes
QC and did you meet Nurse Debby Lloyd
TR yes
QC did they discuss his progress with you?
QC did they talk about any difficulties he was having with the detox process
TR no
QC the passage I want to read to you is on 22 Sep 2014 a month after the detox “upon arriving at the home patient was sitting in kitchen with scrapes on knuckle or right hand…"
TR correct
QC and you say JD had a gash on his forehead - what sort of gash
TR he had a cut on the bridge of...
QC was it bleeding?
TR it wasn’t bleeding but it had broken the skin
QC did JD ask you to photograph it
TR no
QC and your evidence is that AH was unmarked is that right
TR yes
QC I am going to suggest she had the remains of a bruise or mark to her right cheek
QC the fight that took place was on the 29th of December
TR correct
QC I am correcting what I said - not a mark on her right cheek - a black eye - bruising under both eyes
TR not visible to me...
QC can you see the bruising to AH in that picture under both eyes?
TR yes
QC was that what she looked like on the island that holiday
TR no
QC sure?
TR I didn’t see that
[no further questions]
DS you were shown a video have you seen it before
TR no
DS do you know where it was taken
TR no
DS when?
TR no
DS you say you heard or saw JD slam a cupboard door. Did you see him be at all violent or aggressive to AH
TR no
DS I’m just going to look at...
DS you said you never saaw JD be violent or aggressive with anyone else. Having seen that clip that AH secretly took of JD is there anything that makes you want to change your evidence?
TR I never saw it on the island...
DS did you ever see JD hit AH or physically assault AH?
TR no
DS you were asked about some bruise or bruises in that photo you were shown. You say in your WS...
TR correct
DS did you ever see that bruising on her on the island
TR correct
DS did she ahve those bruises
TR if she had them I would have seen them.
TR a law firm and a car dealership
DS it is being suggested you are not telling the truth because you are
TR no I’m not lying
DS no further questions
[Judge says goodbye]
DS that’s it. the next witnes starts giving evidence from LA at 2pm
[we go into admin]
[these might be quite boring]
island property since December 2008.
violently attacked Amber on the Island on 17 August 2014 and that Johnny kicked and broke a door. First, there was no door broken, or damaged during that visit or any other. There was no broken anything. If
The parties are arguing about getting the financial details of JD’s income from Edward White. QC says it’s a central part of JD’s defence that AH is a gold-digger who planned all along to get his money
DS says this is nonsense it’s its not pleaded and that it was never the case. Also AH is not a party to these proceedings. And if the court wants to start litigating...
QC stands up and points out that in his witness statement JD says part of AH’s motivation for marrying him was to secure her future and that in evidence there is a text calling her “gold-digging"
QC but I want to know the provisions for their divorce and JD’s income which he CAN give me
Judge but only if I then come to understand what the law around...
QC he has confirmed in evidence that he knows what the law is
Judge - but he’s not a lawyer. I would need expert evidence in california divorce law
QC if that were to be obtained
Judge - it’s too late for that
11. I had the car door open and when we were outside Johnny said to me words to the effect of "Look at my finger. She's cut my f*cking finger off. She's smashed my hand with a vodka
ENDS
Ushers in our court are relaxed. Someon hasn’t pressed a button.
We’re back with sound, but no judge.
Judge is back he’s wearing a black cloak with red collars over his suit.
QC you are a stylist by occupation?
SM yes
QC and you work in Hollywood
SM yes
QM and you live in Hollywood
SM yes
QC and you’ve been JD’s stylist for how long
SM since 2002 - so 18 years
QC and he is in influential figure in Hollywood
SM I would say so yes
SM yes
[we estblish she is no longer AH’s stylist, but remains JD’s stylist]
SM correct
QC okay let’s start with 16 Dec 2015...
QC shows her a photo of AH taken on 16 Dec 2015. Is that the way she looked to you when you saw her
SM that is not how I remember her looking on that day
QC and that photograph shows bruising
SM it’s not a clear pic, but it does look like there is ...
[we go to another photo]
QC is that a better copy
SM well - it looks different.
Judge says he has two photos.
QC what my Lord has is a better version and a paper copy
QC do you see the bruising
SM it looks differnt from the last photo, but there is...
[we go to another photo]
QC can you see on that photo a slight mark on AH’s lower lip
SM I do not see it on this photo
[we go to another photo]
QC do you see the mark on the lower lip in that photograph
SM somewhat
[we go to another photo]
SM I think so yes
QC and for the avoidance of doubt….
[they go to another photograph]
SM yes
QC and do you agree you can see an injury to her lower lip
SM I see something that could be a mark
SM correct
QC and yet you say you saw no marks
SM correct
QC she was not wearing make up
SM she appeared not to be...
SM she had nothing on her face and hair
QC AH made some complaints about some injuries she received at this time and I’m going to take you through them
[they go to a new file]
SM yes
QC do you know who he was
SM I don’t
QC did AH say she was being treated for anxiety by Dr Cowan?
SM no she didn’t
QC and the time of this text is 11.23 and it’s from AH and it says “emergency, please call”
How close were you to
SM we had good working relationship and I would check in with her, see how she was doing, at the time.
QC would she confide in you
SM no I wouldn’t be on her speed dial no
[we go to a new file]
[Witness statement it is confirmed her surname is McMillen]
Custodian: AH
Participants: Dr Cowan MD
Dr C “tried to reach you by phone earlier hope you are okay”
AH: “Johnny did a number on me tonight. I’m safe and with my support, but I need some real...
QC did she say anything about this to you
SM no
QC are your loyalties with JD more than AH
SM I’m not sure what you’re asking
QC if there was a conflict of...
SM I would not perjure myself for anyone for any reason
QC I haven’t even come to perjury yet
SM I don’t know what you’re saying/ Obviously I’m loyal, because he’s kind an loyal back, but that’s it.
QC can you see any...
[DS stands up and says this is speculation. Why is she being taken to occasions they didn’t witness]
[QC says it is not impermissible I am only asking why someone might say something if it is not true]
Judge - you can ask the q
SM I don’t know the answer to that
QC so you don’t know any reason…
Judge - well you’ve had the answer to that
[we move on]
QC do you know iO
SM yes
QC is it iO Tillet-Wright
SM I don’t know his surname
QC okay and there is a message to him from AH saying “I need you” “J beat me up pretty good
SM I don’t know the answer to that
[we go to a new file]
QC you see Custodian AH...
SM yes
QC if we look to the body of the text we can see a text that says (from Rock) “Hey girl so sorry AH had a shit day yesterday and we were doing some emotional damage control. I’ll call...
SM yes
QC and in this message participant AH is Amber Heard - do you agree?
SM yes
Judge - how will her agreement take this further? She can only agree to what she sees on the page
QC okay - we see that...
SM yes
QC can you see there is a photo of AH which you have seen already in which there are some marks below the eye...
SM yes
[QC show her more photos of marks under the eye and then lip marking photos]
SM it’s difficult to discern
QC there are 7 photographs in that text send on 17 Dec 2015. Can you think of any reason why AH would send photos of herself to her friends which do show...
SM I don’t know
[we go to a text chain between AH and RP]
QC “I’m being strong, basically faking it” see that?
SM yes I see that
QC now when AH did her TV prog on the night of the 16th that was the sort of thing she was saying...
She said that to you didn’t she?
SM I don’t recall
QC then RP replies “survival” then AH says to RP AH said to JD “you fucking headbutted me” and then AH says JD said “just a little knock” - did she tell you about
SM the only things she said to me are what’s in my statement. “can you believe I did that show with two black eyes”
Judge - and as far as you could see did AH have two black eyes
SM I never noticed anything like that
Judge sorry?
SM I never noticed her having two black
DS she said she never noticed anything like that
QC so if you were told this why didn’t you ask her what on earth she was talking about
SM I think I said “I don’t know what to say” and then we hugged because we were going our separate ways.
QC on the day of the 16 Dec early in the morning AH emailed Jody Gottlieb (?) message reads as follows: I had a bad accident last night, bruising on my eyes, same with my nose. Nurse on her way - might not make it...
QC if she didn’t think she had black eyes why would she send that text?
SM I don’t know
QC did you not think you should have offered her some support when she said what she said to you
SM I gave her a hug
QC you gave her a hug to offer her support because of
SM I don’t know
QC did you see her makeup before the show
SM I did
QC do you remember her makeup lady saying she was going to put bright red makeup on her lip to cover the mark
SM I don’t remember that.
SM can I explain what it was
Judge please do
QC there was a closet and I was between the bathroom setting up the jewelry and one room steaming clothes so I wasn’t in the room listening the entire time.
QC and do you remember the makeup artist putting...
SM I do not recall it being heavier that usual.
[we go to another file]
[email chain between AH and Erin Berman]
QC why might AH be complaining of having welts on her head and having been bruised to her nurse unless it was true
Judge - the person being communicated with - do you know Erin Berman?
SM no I did not
PH “I can be there tomorrow”
AH sent three attached files
PH “send the pictures and nothing else I love you so damn much I would do anything for you. your dad sent Steve a scathing message.” [we’ve seen this b4]
QC can you think of any reason why AH would contact her lover, sending photos of her injuries if she had not had those injuries
SM I don;’t know why anyone would do this
QC an alt scenario to your evidence is that AH had...
SM I did not see anything like that on her
QC you saw her on 24 May 2016 and your evidence is that you did not see any marks on her neck when you saw her then.
SM it looks like her yes
QC can you see a mark on her right cheek
SM in this picture barely
QC barely? Are you saying there is a red mark and it’s difficult to see, or that there isn’t red mark?
SM faint mark
[we go to a new file]
SM no
QC I’m going to get a better quality photo shown to you on the screen
Judge the photo you are being asked about is being projected onto the screen.
SM I can see it
SM yes
QC can you see the reddening to her face
SM it was a little bit red
QC did you see the mark above the eyebrow too?
SM a little mark, yes
QC did you see a mark
SM yes
QC those photos were taken on 21 May and you saw her on the 24th.
QC do you still maintain you saw her on the 24th without injury.
SM I saw her nothing but her beautiful skin
QC was she wearing
SM not that I could see
QC. you have come to court to be less than truthful and give evidence that will help JD who is very important to your career
SM I have no reason to do that.
[no further qs from QC]
[DS on his feet]
DS we’ll start on the Dec 2015 incident
SM I have no way of knowing that
DS in your witness statement you say “I spent much of the afternoon and early evening with AH, preparing her to appear on the James...
SM correct
DS If you saw AH’s face looking like you saw it in those photos would you have given the...
SM no I would not
DS do you want to change your evience of that day at all
SM no my memory remains clear
DS did you see anything in the text messages you were show which might cause you to change your evidence
SM no I didn't
SM in my memory she said it as she was coming towards me to give me a hug
SM no
DS so you went to a text from AH to Jody Gottlieb - her publicist and then texts ...
and we know there was a conversation with NB on the night of the James Corden show on 16 Dec - when the nurse goes to see AH the next day on the 17th and states: client says head is bruised and she has had hair pulled out, but the nurse is unable
SM I can’t think of any reason why anyone would do that
DS you were asked why AH might want to do something
DS can you read minds Ms M?
Judge - I think this is coming close to facetious
SM no she did not
SM I was there first
DS so just to get this clear. You are in JD’s house in West Hollywood and AH turns up. AH doesn’t know you are there
SM no
DS and you say she wasn’t wearing...
SM that’s correct
DS do you want to change your evidence about what you saw on 24 May
SM my memory remains the same, so no
DS did you get a clear look at her?
SM yes we were by the...
DS did she refer to any injuries?
SM no
DS did she say she’d been beaten up by JD?
SM she said nothing like that
DS I want to aks you about a response to your WS by AH
Judge - does this arise out of xe?
DS no but AH will...
I. I am a freelance stylist, represented by the agency the Wall Group. For a period of time I
served as a stylist to Ms Amber Heard, helping her to get ready to appear at major events.
pictures onto my computer," although I did not know to what photos she was referring.
DS is taking SM to a picture of AH filming the late late show with James corden. Is it her?
SM yes it is
SM it looks normal and beautiful to me
SM I would not commit perjury for anyone..
[no further questions]
[SM leaves]
[poopgate looms]
HV yes ma’am
QC as a housekeeper
HV yes madam
QC was it your routine to clean in the morning at Sweetzer Avenue and then go to the Eastern Colombia vuilding in the afternoon
QC and on afternoon of 22 April 2016 you attended ECB
HV yes
QC and there was no one there
HV no
QC did you see JD in the morning
HV don’t recall
QC you say in the upper level of PH3 where JD slept with AH
SM yes
QC the premises were extremely messy - your words
QC yes, miuch more messy than you’d seen it before
HV yes madaam
QC things knocked over, broken glass on the floor
HV si señora
QC were you aware of where JD was at that stage?
HV no
HV yes
QC and you were understandably horrified and disgusted
HV si señora
QC now JD and AH had two small dogs
HV si señora
QC one smaller than the other
HV si señora
HV si señora
QC and boo had a number of accidents in terms of spoiling the flat
HV on the floor
QC and you had never known either dog defecate in the bed had you
HV no madam
QC because they were so small...
HV si señora
QC because you had had no experience of the dogs defecating in the bed, you formed the view it was human faeces in the bed
QC yes and the size and the fact that the dogs could only get on the bed by being lifted up is what caused you to form that opinion
HV si señora
QC did you know AH was away at the time
HV she wasn’t there - only the cleaners were there
HV that day was a Friday - we arrived around 3pm - those faeces were fresh from the night or early morning
HV a lack of respect
QC and you reported the matter to Kevin Murphy
HV si señora
QC was he your line manager?
QC and you took photographs of the faeces to prove to him it had happened and why you felt entitled or justified to be angry
HV yes because after so many years working for this family I’d never had to do that type of thing
QC did AH have very good personal hygiene
QC I am suggesting to you that AH was a very clean person - she kept herself clean
HV an ordinary individual
QC she had good personal hygiene better personal hygiene that JD
HV that I cannot confirm
HV we would converse very little
QC in Spanish
HV yes
QC on the 24th May in the morning you were at JD’s West Hollywood home and AH came over with Raquel Pennington
HV si senora
QC and RP lived in the ECB
HV yes
QC and at that time JD would spend most of his time at the Sweetzer Av building and AH would use the ECB - they were separate a lot of the time?
HV no madam
HV no he was separated from her in April? I don’t recall the date, but he was not the whole month away from her
QC from the beginning of 2016 they were apart a lot
HV that I don’t know madam
HV yes sir
QC and you have said in your WS that you saw no bruises or marks on her face of any kind. She did not appear to be wearing any make up
HV she did not have any marks on her face
QC how are you so sure she was not wearing make..
HV her face was very clean it was very pale
QC you hadn’t seen her at the SA property for several weeks
HV si
QC and you know AH is a well-known actress
HV si
who is regularly photographed when she leaves her house or flat
HV that I don’t know madam
HV she was not wearing make up on that day
QC have you been asked to put that in her statement
HV nobody requested anything from me
QC how close were you to AH on the 24th May?
HV [indicates about 4 feet]
HV she called me to the sitting room because she wanted to talk to me about the photographs
QC she was upset the faeces had been left in the bed
HV yes madam I know she was upset at the photographes
QC she was upset...
QC you said at the end of you statement you said you often heard AH yell at JD and other people
QC and you say that she had a bad temper
HV in my opinion
Judge notes he wants this xe wrapped up soon - we are over time
QC my last q - you say you have never seen JD be physical with or yell at anyone
HV never in the years that I’ve been working for him. Not at all
QC never seen him shout...
QC I’m asking you to. Have you seen him shout
HV no
QC have you seen him kick obecjts
HV never
QC have you seen him punch objects or smash glass
HV no
QC have you ever seen him drunk
HV don’t want to make any comment
QC I’m asking you to.
QC have you ever seen under the influence of illegal drugs
HV no
QC you have come to the court to give a character reference for Mr Depp which is untrue
HV I have a work schedule I dont’ spend all the time with him
QC but you’ve...
HV I have a work schedule and I don’t spend all my nights with him.
[no further questions]
DS on his feet
DS you have told the court that yo knew perfectly well that the faeces that you found on the bed...
"I pulled back the top sheet on the bed and saw a large pile of faeces. I was horrified and disgusted...
HV si señor
DS “I knew that the faeces could not have come from either of JD and AH’s two small dogs”
HV yes sir
DS “I have cleaned up after thos dogs many times and their faeces are much smaller”
HV si
HV si señor
DS “and you were asked by Ms Wass whether those statements were true or not”
HV they are true
DS does that remain your evidence or not
HV it is my evidence
DS when AH asked you to come into the living room to speak to her, did you have a conversation with her face-to-face?
HV Face to face
DS and you told use she was as far away from you as your interpreter (about 4 feet)
HV that is the distance
HV yes I could see her face
DS was she wearing make-up or not
HV no
DS did you see any bruise or any mark or injury
HV no sir I didn’t see anything
HV No
DS What do you have to say about that
HV I don’t understand
[no further questions]
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1.I work for the Claimant, Mr John Christopher Depp II, as a housekeeper
and have done so for more than 30 years. In the period from 1988 until
May 2016, I typically worked in the mornings in Mr Depp's home...
Hollywood on Sweetzer Avenue and then in the afternoons in Mr Depp’s
home downtown on Broadway with the address The Eastern Colombia
Building, 849 South Broadway Street, Los Angeles, California 90014,
United States (“the "Eastern”).
witness statement are within my own knowledge and that those facts are
true to the best of my knowledge and belief. Where facts are not within
information and belief and the source of that information is set out.
documents marked "HV1”. All references to documents in this statement
are to Exhibit HV1 unless otherwise stated.
proceedings.
Defendants in these proceedings. I make this witness statement in
response to paragraph 151 of the witness statement of Amber
dated 15 December 2019, which I have seen. In that paragraph Ms Heard
states that on or around the night of 21 April 2016 one of her dogs
the Eastern. Ms Heard also states that their dogs had accidents in the
house a lot, including having defecated in their bed before, and that this
was a well-known pattern of the dogs' behaviour.
6.On 22 April 2016, I arrived at Mr Depp's home at the Eastern at
approximately 3 pm. There are several different loft-style units in this
home. I began to clean unit 3, which is where Mr Depp usually slept with
Ms Heard.
laundry room, bathroom, and patio. The master bedroom, office, and
another bathroom are on the second floor. I began to clean downstairs
with another cleaning woman.
but not unusually so.
7.The upstairs level, however, was extremely messy. I had just finished
washing dishes and vacuuming and I was about to help the other cleaning
woman change the sheets when I heard her call out. I joined her in the
couldn’t believe what she had found. I pulled back the top sheet on the
bed and saw a large pile of faeces. I was horrified and disgusted. It was
have come from either of Mr Depp's and Ms Heard's two small dogs. I
have cleaned up after those dogs many times and their faeces are much
8.I did not know what to think of what I had discovered. I was completely
shocked. With my cell phone, I took pictures of the faeces in the bed (see
the sheets.
called me to see if I was almost finished. Although I was embarrassed by
the faeces I had found in the bed, I was so angry that I told Mr Murphy
the faeces in the bed that I had taken pictures.
10.Shortly after this incident, I stopped going to Mr Depp's home at the
Mr Depp's West Hollywood home.
11.On Tuesday, 24 May 2016, I was working at Mr Depp's West Hollywood
was surprised because I had not seen Ms Heard at the West Hollywood
home in several weeks. Ms Heard said hello to the other women who
12.Ms Heard then called me over to talk to her in the living room. Her face
was pale and she did not appear to be wearing any makeup. I saw no
pictures I had taken of the faeces had destroyed her marriage. I was very
nervous and so I apologised, even though I did not believe that their
told Ms Heard that the faeces were there, that there was nothing I could
do. Ms Heard argued with me saying that there were no faeces in the bed.
awful. Ms Heard continued to disagree with me, but I wanted to end the
conversation as quickly as possible. I have often heard Ms Heard yell at
did not want her to yell at me. On the contrary, in the over 30 years I have
worked for Mr Depp, I have never seen Mr Depp be physical with or yell at
STATEMENT OF TRUTH
I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true.
Signed.....
HILDA VARGAS
ENDS
Thanks so much for all the comments - the mentions are spinning way too fast to see and I have so many DMs pls
Winona Ryder is here tomorrow. I’ll come back if there’s an appetite for more - which judging by the tweets and comments there is.
Thanks again. Nick
Here is your Day 6 transcript plus all four day 6 witness statements
nickwallis.com/depp-trial
Sorry they’re late. Technical issues. Let me know if they do or don’t work. I’m going to bed.