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Judge - Mr Justice Nicol
DS - David Sherborne for Dohnny Depp (JD)
MW - Mr Wolanski is for NGN on the expert evidence issue.
Judge - what I am trying to decide is the timing of...
DS - can I try to be helpful. Can I have until 6pm today to see if anything further is necessary… and the defendants have until first thing tomorrow to respond and we can put something in by the end of lunchtime tomorrow.
DS well yes but
Judge - no you can deal with it in your response today
DS it was more about talking to our expert… can I ask that we have until the morning tomorrow.
Judge - MW what do you say about doing this on paper rather than orally
MW we’d rather deal with it now [goes into discussion about scheduling]
Judge - MW I’m going to stop you as I’m not persuaded I can deal with this matter fairly in the next 15 mins, so it’s going to have to be written subs
Judge - there’s no point in you respoinding to what has been said if that is going to be added to. DS is entitled to turn a skeleton argument into written submissions and there’s no point in you...
MW I’ll get his at 6pm and provide you with a response at 10pm tonight
Judge - no I think 9am from DS - what time do you want to get back to me
MW - 10.30am? I realise that woudl mean I would not be in court, but this is a matter of urgency
MW shall we say by lunchtime, then?
Judge - okay DS by 9am tomorrow and defendants response by 1pm
[judge then suggests he will give a decision shortly thereafter]
Judge - I am not going to direct the defendants to do...
MW [stands up]…
Judge no no no…
MW just to make the point that this is not a device. It is a mirror.
Looking at this tweet, I think it is fair to make a point in defence of AW. Not that I”m obliged to, but...
DS LD is Elon Musk’s employee and that is a relevant statement in this case
Judge - the phrase in memoriam is… unwelcome.
Judge - anybody attending this trial must take care that what they put out on twitter is not misconstrued or construed as a threat.
Judge - the witnesses giving evidence in this trial must feel able to do so safely
DS Absolutely, but I don’t believe there was any intent in the way the defendants suggest there is.
Judge - fine. We’ll leave it there.
Sasha Wass (QC) is taking her to her Witness Statements (WS) to confirm they are correctly signed and that she affirms they are true.
4. Johnny has said he was never violent or abusive towards me during our relationship. That is not true. He was both physically and verbally abusive. The physical abuse and the worst of the verbal abuse would usually...
FB (female barrister) v AH.
FB u made a home at PH3 of the Eastern Colombia Building (ECB) but he also lived on Sweetzer
FB and you kept your house on Orange Avenue
AH yes
FB and you moved your sister Whitney into ECB
AH yes
FB and your friend Rocky Pennington came to live there
AH she was invited by Johnny
FB who brought her partner Josh
AH Johnny asked...
AH yes
FB and none of them paid any rent
AH JD wouldn’t let them
FB and they were all your family and friends
AH apart from Isaac
FB I didn’t ask you about that
AH oh yes
AH no
FB you were being asked to
AH no I was not
[we go to a file]
AH yes
FB and in the body of the email 27 Jan…
Judge - the email itself is headed from David Kipper
FB yep the email I want to ask about is under
FB “amber and JD have been fighting non-stop since he...
AH there was an argument
FB thank you
AH which ended up with him hitting me on the back of the head and it was about Christy wanting the pre-nup and I said of course I’d sign whatever he wanted me to sign...
FB you had a row and it was over the pre-nup
AH there was a row, but it was not over the pre-nup
FB but you say there was a pre-nup
AH he didnt’ like being the bad guy and so he would say “that’s what Christy wants” so I hired an attorney and we dealt with Christy to get one together
FB so how did the pre-nup not get signed
AH it was left on JD’s team's
FB it was overlooked
AH I don’t think so - given how many people in his life were concerned about it. I think Dr Kipper was wrong when he said I tried to move the date of the wedding. I didn’t have the power to do that.
Judge asks AH...
AH yes DrK was mistaken in saying that I was trying to move the wedding.
[we go to a file]
AH that’s right.
FB and you agree this is between C and JD [they are tallking about a pre-nup/post-nup] in which they are discussing the complications of both. In which C is pushing...
FB he did want a pre-nup, didn’t he?
AH I have no idea. He told me he didn’t. He told me the only way out of this was death.
Judge - he didn’t want a pre-nup
AH I told him I was happy...
[FB is Ms Laws so we’ll call her ML until I get her first name.]
ML this is a yes no question - you did not sign a pre-nup
AH no
ML or a post
AH correct
ML let’s got on to your drugs use which you have mischaracterised your use of?
AH no
Judge - can you be clear about lawful and unlawful drugs
ML do you remember that Sasha Laws says you did not take cocaine after the age of 18 and that her drinking and taking...
Judge- take controlled to mean illegal
ML I’ll use illegal from now on
Judge - do you stand by that?
AH I do
ML and do you remember saying you only took MDMA or mushrooms a handful of times
AH true
ML and you never ook coke in front of JD
AH tru
AH no
[we go to a file]
ML this is typed up by a registered nurse who you were seeing for a while Erin Barin (?) This was written in Aug 2014 at the start of her treatment with you.
AH she got it from DrK’s notes
ML Right. She records a history...
AH that’s a mistake
AH that’s incorrect
ML “AH reports history of substance abuse including an addiction to cocaine and liqor” - is that true
AH no
ML so DrK lied or got it wrong
AH I don’t know when he spoke to me about my history, but I’ve never had anxiety eating..
ML so this is very different from your statements
AH my statements are correct
ML and Dr K is wrong and the nurse didn’t take any...
AH correct
ML that’s wrong
AH no
ML so the first thing he got wrong was the argument about the pre-nup and now he’s got it wrong about your medical history
AH I could understand how he got things wrong about the pre-nup
ML EB was a friend of yours by this stage
AH yes
ML you were throughout the period of your marriage you were taking a variety of strong meds
AH DrK put me on all sorts of meds and frankly I’ve lost track...
ML is that a yes
AH yes
ML and you in a tape indicate that you stuck to the medication so I will suggest you are were on medication throughout your marraige
AH I had one medication I took before during and after our relationship, but DrK put me on a range of meds
AH no not a variety, just one
Judge what’s it called?
AH provigil - it’s a narcolepsy medicine.
ML that is a total lie, what you’ve just said
AH no
ML let’s move on mushrooms, MDMA, alcohol - high for 24 hrs straight. EB said illicit drug use...
AH no
ML so you took drugs at Coachelle
AH the night before I took MDMA and mushroom
ML who were you taking mushrooms and MDMA with on 9 May
AH I dont’ recall
ML who was the high profile...
AH I don’t recall
ML you were in your own home ingesting MDMA and mushrooms with a high-profile male and you dont’ know who it was
AH I don’t know if it was a high-profile actor or someone else high profile
ML it was rare for you to take...
AH I’ve done it only a handful of times
ML and to do them around a high profile actor would be rare
AH I am around high profile people a lot, but I don’t think that if they were there then I would have been doing them.
ML is the note wrong - you say you didn’t take MDMA or mushrooms
AH yes
ML just a moment ago you said the note was correct. Are you now saying its not
AH yes
ML so EB has got it wrong.
AH on that point yes
[we go to a file]
ML Kipper says why did you participate in miushrooms on the island and in ecstasy in Australia? Is that right or wrong?
AH it’s wrong. He got his information from JD
AH MDMA on a flight to moscow and mushrooms in Hicksville and on my birthday at Coachell and then there’s the other time I did it without Johnny again before the wedding - on a hen party before the wedding and we passed around a bag of shrooms
ML so lots of medical professionals either lying or misrepresenting your drug use
ML was starling jenkins was lying when he said he saw you vomiting in the parking lot at Coachella
AH he was mistaken, it was my sister
ML so he was lying
AH I’ve never vomited in a parking lot in my life
ML EB says you told her you...
AH I remember telling her I felt sick. Whitney was pregnant and she was the one who was sick
ML reads: client admits to illicit drug use during the trips states she ingested mushrooms and MDMA and states that she vomited and was high for 24 hours straight
AH.I told her I felt like vomiting and then I spent the next 24 hours lying in bed regretting taking both those things during a break up
ML you’re just lying
AH I’m not
ML why would EB lie
ML instead of turning the subject to JD and saying something negative about him, could you just answer the q about you
AH yes
AH yes
ML and EB is mistaken in what she’s written
AH she missed out two words
ML which words
AH “felt like” [ie felt like being sick - not was sick]
ML lets move on to your alcohol consumption.
AH no I don’t know why people would come and say that
ML don’t worry about their motivation
AH no I only drank 1 or 2
[we go to the subject of allegedly JD not letting AH drive]
ML you say he took your mustang care...
AH it may have been longer.
ML reads: once he took my car it was hard to resist. It was how...
Is that true?
[explains how she wasn’t watched or escorted all the time]
AH you pick your battles
ML he was not trying to control you all the time
AH he was quite controlling
[we go into
AH because it didnt’ run
ML and then when they had been repaired by a Mr Kolecki you said JD said the repair costs were covered by the show and started screaming at him
AH no
ML but at any event it didn’t render you under his control
AH it was one of the many ways he put me under his control
ML just a few moments ago you seemed to agree that this car...
AH I was able to leave the house
[we go to a letter to Homeland Security re Savannah McMillan]
AH yes
ML and it’s purpose it to indicated SM was not your employee
AH yes
ML and in it you say she was not working unlawfully and you say she wasn’t working for you.
ML and she worked as your assistant in the US
AH no
ML we’ll come on to that. in this letter you call SM your “friend” - no suggestion she sometimes worked for you
AH wasn’t relevant
ML reads out AH's unequivocation that the allegation AM is working legally...
AH yes
ML are you saying that she never worked for you
AH unlawfully
ML she was hired to work for you
AH she worked for the production company on set
ML to do what
AH assist
ML who
AH me
ML but your letter is set out to suggest she does not work fo you
AH I didn’t write it, but I did sign the document because I thought it reflected the truth.
ML the 18yo SM wrote this?
AH yes I only smile because the language is very SM
ML and it was SM’s idea to do this?
AH yes
ML because you’ve done this...
AH not sure what you mean
ML remember your arrest in Washington - getting that removed from the record
AH that’s a common thing. No charges were filed so it’s a normal thing to seek to have the arrest removed from your record
ML the language in this letter
AH yes
ML and she never worked for you in the US and only in the UK through a production company
AH correct
ML but in Nov 2013 and Mar 2014 she did work for you, does that ring a bell?
Judge - it was put to you she worked for you
ML so in 2013 she’d not be working for you, she was there as a friend
AH sometimes she’d be an intern, sometimes as a friend
ML an intern. were you paying her?
AH no
[ML is called Eleanor Laws so I’ll switch to her initials]
EL see that date 8 May 2014 and this is an email from you to Kate james. Kate James says hope you had a good flight SM just asked me to write a check for her pay and if so how much. Did you get that...
AH yes
EL and did you reply “yes please, 1300”
AH yes I did
Judge- were you saying that KJ should arrange for SM to be paid 1300?
AH yes I was
[we got to a photocopy of a check]
AH … May 9…
EL 2014 - is it signed by you?
AH yes
EL what is the sum you are paying her
AH $1625
[we go to another file]
Judge - can we take a mid-morning break shortly?
EL yes just finishing this topic
EL this relates to something completely different - it’s about bringing the dogs into Australia - a sworn, truthful account from you
AH yes
EL you mention that SM attends to your arrangements as your assistant in the UK
[Judge reads it out loud]
EL she is
AH correct
[we got to another file, this time relating to Erin B]
[it’s the Coachella entry - 11 May 2016]
EL - client gets two weeks worth of medication and client is visiting with assistant SM, and two friends, Rocky and Josh...
AH yes she was at times, my assistant
EL you told EB SM was your assistant?
AH no ma'am
EL what’s wrong with what EB said
AH she was my friend and my assistant, but she was not my assistant in the united states - she was my friend and companion
AH no she was my friend and she travelled with me
EL and she didn’t work with you on the Adderral diaries
AH no she travelled with me. She did buy groceries and help me out whilst looking for an apartment
AH no, but at times I did loan her money
EL these are complete lies aren’t they? She was your paid assistant.
AH no ma’am
[we rise for a short break]
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EL did you have a problem controlling your temper
AH no
EL no outbursts of rage or anger
AH there were outbursts of anger when I lost my cool with JD in our fights and arguments.
[we go to a file]
EL reads: client has reported increased agitation and anxiety - increased outbursts of rage - nervous about being alone and has problems dealing with insecurity...
AH all of it or the last part
EL well let’s deal with the last part. did you experience insecurity and jealousy whilst JD was away
AH I was worried about him being away and him using that distance to...
EL let’s get back to the note - what’s wrong with it
AH I was just trying to explain it I don’t think she’s wrong
EL well let’s try to work out what’s right and wrong
EL worried about being away?
AH accepts that is...
EL and the insecurity and jealousy
AH that’s JD’s insecurity and jealousy - it’s his
EL so it should say “he” has difficulty with insecurity and jealousy when not with his wife
AH no…
EL so who had the insecurity and jealousy
AH JD
Judge - so JD had feelings of insecurity and jealousy whilst you were apart and that in turn caused difficulty for you
AH yes - one of the biggest problems in the relationship where he would feel like that and it would trigger a drug binge...
EL so what is it that EB has got wrong
AH I don’t think she’s got it wrong per se
EL it’s just that you’d like to interpret it differently now
AH no I am explaining it
AH she wouldn’t have witnessed this, but I would have told her about it
EL she uses the word rage
AH I think that would be the word I would use
EL and you accept you have a problem with your temper
AH no not at all
[we go to a file]
EL reads: "she has insight into her short temper and insecurities”
Judge do you see that
AH yes I do
EL and in 2014 did you have insight into your short-temper
AH yes I was responding to the relationship I was in
EL it was an extremely...
EL in the light of what you’re saying - would you have described yourself as having compulsive anger
AH in response to my relationship
EL so purely confined to JD
AH absolutely
[4 Sep 2014 - half way through that para - RN reflected change in coping mechanisms and previous coping involved impulsive anger and yelling]
EL that’s after a day on an online college course, you took your meds, and then you went out shopping with EB and SM
AH that’s a mistake by EB
EL client became frustrated with waiting staff and coped with it - a change in your mechanism - calmly - JD wasn’t present?
AH no - but she says i dealt with it calmly
EL so EB gets it right when it’s something helpful
[we go to a new file]
EL do you remember an occasion when EB went to your house after photos of you were published online that you didn’t like and you were irritable, loud, angry and screaming at EB
AH I don’t remember that, but that was when someone hacked into my account and stole naked photographs of me and photoshopped them and made degrading comments. JD blamed me for that. I was extremely distressed. It was beyond me not liking them. I felt...
EL can we go to the entry. reads: client says feeling high levels of anxiety, crying, hyper-verbal, JD comforted her and took her through relaxation techniques - remember that?
AH I don’t remember that bit
EL you just took us in great detail...
AH he might have been like that in front of other people, but he didn’t stay like that for long
EL a number of people have given evidence saying you are the person who would start arguments
AH no
EL his employees took you round everywhere you said
AH occasionally
EL you said that he controlled you
AH at first, but I started to assert myself to drive myself more often
EL so you would be driven by them occasionally - how many times
AH over 4.5 years - I don’t know… at the beginning… it was a fight every time… at first they bring me over, then I’d drive, then the mustang was taken, then I’d get driven by them...
EL how often were you driven by his drivers?
AH at the beginning quite often, then less so as the relationship progressed
EL so they witnessed your relationship in the car together
AH we were very rarely in the car together
AH they were not there. Mr Bett did not ever interact with us. What happened closed doors happened without his staff present. SB did come in on 21 May incident, but he didn’t see the argument.
AH I don’t want to call anyone a liar
EL Mr Baruch who lived in the ECB said you were harrassing and that you had argumentative behaviour
AH he did not see the arguments.
AH no
EL and Tara Roberts witnessed you being violent
AH no she drove up after JD had been hitting me and slapping me and pulling my hair. CJ and her boyfriend pulled JD off me and TR came up to me and said...
EL That’s completely different to TR’s statement - in response to her statement you’ve fabricated things to suggest she came in half way through
AH no
EL other witnesses say you’ve thrown things at JD - true?
AH only to escape JD
EL so any time you got...
AH I was never violent. I only tried to defend myself against his violence and that was years into the relationship. Before that i didn’t even try to defend myself. I just… checked out
EL so you only ever through anything...
AH to escape him
[we go to a file]
[Argument 2 - a recording]
EL JD says what do you mean I don’t fight for you - what does...
[starts reading at speed from the transcript]
[there is a discussion about throwing vases and pots and pans - but goodness knows who is saying what - they’re all reading off a transcript. I’m listening to someone speaking very quickly in reported speech]
AH yes but do you have a date?
EL we may be able get it - have you looked at this before
AH it would help to have a date
EL do you remember it
AH it would help if I were to get a date
EL do you remember saying those words
AH yes
EL it sounds like...
AH that’s what it sounds like, but it’s not the way it was
Judge - was it true you threw pots and pans at Mr Depp
AH only in self-defence. I am not admitting to throwing pots and pans, but I was trying to keep...
EL so we’re in agreement. you threw things
AH I’m not agreeing to throwing anything
[JD is accusing her of punching him across the face and then lying about it to Travis - she says she was hitting him, but not punching him]
EL points out that AH appears to be agreeing to starting a fight
AH yes
AL is that an honest admission
AH yes he was passing out and vomiting in his sleep on a regular basis…
EL sorry - what are we talking about here - the tape?
AH he was in a moment where...
[goes into long explanation of what happened that night which was that he was off his head and went into the bathroom, fell over and smashed some things]
AH yes I was pushing the door or him to stop him falling towards me
EL why did you not say that on the tape - I was defending myself
AH that was not a recourse you could take with JD - you’d just get another black eye
EL thank you.
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EL we got to the bit where on tape you admitted hitting Mr Depp and you gave an explanation for that. We’ll come to that later on.
You said before lunch you only ever used violence in self-defence and you only ever did it within your relationship with JD
AH it’s not
EL I am going to ask you about your arrest for DV. It was for an assault witnessed by 2 police officers at an airport
AH no it was witnessed by 1 police officer, the second arrived later
EL were you living with Ms van Rees in...
AH yes we were filming a movie there
[van Ree sorry]
EL and did a neighbour there in PR say that you and Ms van Ree have constant screaming rows
AH absolutely not
EL so frequent and loud they caused a problem for your neighbours
AH no our neighbours were...
EL did you have rows
AH no
EL it was a volatile relationship
AH no it was one of the most peaceful relationships I have ever heard of
[we go to a file]
EL that’s not news to you why they didn’t go ahead with the prosecution
AH there was no proof there was offence to Tasya or violence
[we go to the transcript]
male voice - no charges filed today - that could happen in the future, we need to have your correct address, you’ll be notified within the statute of limitations which in this case is two years]
EL so you had to give your...
AH I suppose so
EL and you say you were exonerated
AH I was
Judge were you charged with assault
AH no
EL because the assault was thought to be minimal
AH there was no assault
Judge are we helped by this?
EL it is a small point
Judge - I rather think this smallness is of diminishing value.
EL perserveres
Judge where is this going?
[AH disagrees with the description in the articles. Says TvR was not upset, it was a verbal disagreement and any indication of physicality was misunderstood by him]
Judge - I’ve heard enough. You disagree
AH totally
EL on 27 May 2016 you made a statement to the world when you got your restraining order
AH I was just getting my restraining order
[we see a video in which AH is seen with a bruise on her face as she goes to court]
EL we can see there was a significant amount of press interest when you went to court. The same day, do you remember the evidence given that one of them left a business card with you
AH I remember
Judge is...
EL it is. And she gave you a business card, which the same day appeared in the news. How did that get in the news
AH I don’t know
AH yes
EL did you leak this information
AH no
AH no
EL and did you leak that you were asking for a temp RO claiming immediate threat of harm
Judge - just a minute… we saw a crowd in that video. Was it a public hearing.
AH no, but it’s public...
EL you leaked the application to the press and that you were going to be there
AH no - our lawyers had to give notice to JD’s attorney and TMZ has an office in the courthouse and they work closely with JD’s...
EL that came from you or someone acting on your behalf
AH I don’t know if it came from someone else
Judge - hang on - as far as your first answer - you say it didn’t come from you
AH It didn’t
Judge - what about someone else
EL it is inconceivable to say you wouldn’t know about this
AH no - there was no leak
EL there’s no mark on your cheek here is there
AH no i can see no mark, but it would be nice...
EL you say in your RO that he hit you and you were petrified and terrified of him
AH that’s true
EL he did not throw a phone at you
AH he did he threw it at my face - it was just one of a number of incidences
EL a number of people saw you...
AH I don’t want to call anyone a liar. I can’t speak to what they say
EL and between the 21st and getting the RO you were trying to contact JD
AH yes
EL and your texts
AH I was trying to get hold of him
EL and yet you got an extension to the RO
AH I dont’ know - I know it was temporary and a further application has to be made before it becomes permanent.
EL well after the RO you...
AH I may have done with a male friend
EL you flew out to meet him
AH not just to meet him
Judge - this is the meeting in SF
EL and you knew full well there was an RO
EL and in it you claimed to be petrified of him
AH I was at the time
EL and it was extended
AH I didn’t know that
EL so are you saying that by July you were no longer petrified of him
AH no I’m saying I didn’t know there was a restrainign order
EL were you petrified of...
AH I had a relationship with two people - I was not scared of Johnny I was scared of the monster, the monster that he identified earlly in our relationship and I was terrified of the monster that he would become
EL even if you were terrified...
AH of course not - I’d been in a relationship with him, I was married to him. Of course I’d meet up with him, i…
Judge - AH - we have your answer.
EL By 21 May you were talking to a lawyer about getting a divorce.
AH I spoke to her for five minutes about a different matter.
AL by 21 May you had not seen JD since 21 Apr
EL so by the time he came over to the apartment on 21 May were you making plans to separate from him
AH emotionally yes
EL you knew he was coming because you’d exchanged texts
AH yes
EL was Rocky there
AH not she was in PH5
EL you’re smiling as if you heard that...
AH I was not smiling
EL you are saying you were alone
AH I was alone in PH3.
AH no
EL because you are lying -
AH absolutely not
[we go to a file - the divorce declaration]
EL reads that RP, iO and Josh were in apartment
AH the adjacent connecting apartment
EL you say he turned up high and drunk you were comforting about the passing of his mother and he started getting very angry. I tried to calm him, but...
[EL notes that this is the divorce declaration]
AH only once at my face
EL how far away was he
AH about six feet
EL and you had no time to cover your face or head - it happened so quickly
AH it happened slowly in that moment, but it happened quick in real life...
[EL queries her account]
AH JD is quite a bit bigger than me and he wears these heavy rings on all of his fingers and whne...
EL you’ve been over this a number of times - the dep, the divorce declaration, the libel declaration and in every account you say the same thing, that RP came in half way through and distracted JD
AH yes - my account has not changed in all of these
AH that might be what she said. there’s quite a bit of distance between hearing the door open and getting into the room and I heard the door, Johnny heard the door, he let go of my hair temporarily I recall pushing...
EL so in each of those accounts, you haven’t said by the time you saw RP you were apart. You’ve shifted your account to take RP’s statement into account
EL no one saw JD throw that phone
AH Johnny did
AH he did both.
EL in that declaration you miss out details and incidents
AH I only list the most recent ones
EL and when security came in you were shouting “stop hitting me” and then you changed it to “don’t hit me again"
AH words to that effect
Judge. - did you scream “don’t hit me again”
AH I said to Jerry words to the effect of if he hits me again I’ll call the place
Judge were you pretending to have been hit
AH no I had been hit
EL and JD did not...
AH absolutely not he damaged property and he damaged my face
EL so Sean Bett is lying?
AH there was significant damage to property
AH what do you mean
EL you and Josh called your publicist and your lawyer after the police were called
AH I do not recall the sequence of calls.
[we go to a file]
EL after you called out on the phone call 911, iO called the police
AH yes
[EL goes to texts from iO to RP - JD attacking Amber - she told to call 911 - I’m doing it]
[RP says call me and iO says does she have her phone with her and RP says she’s...
EL that jog your memory?
AH yes
EL and do you accept you were on the phone to your publicist too?
AH I don’t know
[we go to a file]
[it is Josh Drew’s deposition]
[EL reads: RP called AH’s lawyer to ask what to do. Told to make a note. AH also called Jody her publicist. I greeted the lawyers]
EL does that jog your memory
AH yes
EL so you didn’t call the police
AH I was made aware of that
EL was SB lying when he said JD did not damage the apartment
AH I hesitate to call anyone a liar, but JD went from PH3 to PH5 - smashed things on his way out. I heard a loud bang in the hallway, then heard keys...
PH5 was where I kept all my property and he went through PH5 and started smashing things. PH5 was ONLY my property - where I kept my personal belongings...
EL the question was SB lying?
AH I don’t want to call anyone a liar, but he would have been responsible for letting JD into..
EL what about the two police officers who turned up. Where they lying too?
AH they would have had to walk through a lot of damage - broken glasses, broken sconces, kitchen damage - "tonnes of damage”
EL “tonnes of damage”?
Judge - which kitchen to which apartment?
EL this is what RP said - candles on the kitchen island, glass, jars and vases and JD hitting out at everything with a wine bottle smashing it all off
AH yes
EL and you put her up to saying this, haven’t you?
AH of course not
EL and for you...
AH they had to walk on it
EL do you know the RP and Josh Drew are saying they did say it
Judge- wait…
Judge - welll you can put that
EL you are all colluding
AH no
EL and the officers must have been lying
AH I can’t imagine that they didn’t see it
Judge - do we have a transcript?
[we do. we go to a file]
[AH is holding her chin as she waits]
[the deposition recording is completely unintelligble to anyone in the press room]
EL in the depo you indicated your conversation to the two officers
AH absolutely not that’s not what I said to them
EL you heard what the officer said
AH you completely lied
EL one of them said something looked wrong and it seemed unsafe?
AH they did. one said I...
EL so these are two contradictory accounts
AH they are contradictory
EL you’ve got Josh showing them round pointing out all the damage. That’s a total lie
AH it is not he did show...
EL and you had a conversation with the police officer - the female police officer - you would remember that, surely?
AH yes we went out in to the hallway - RP came with us - we went into PH3 into my apartment which is darker than my main apartment, but we...
EL so it was the female officer who made the statement
AH the male officer might have said it too. Both of them might have said it.
EL which officer...
AH can’t say for sure, probably the female officer
EL you’re making this up as you go along
AH no
EL the male officer in his statement - which is now agreed [by the other side] said he looked round the apartment and saw...
AH he gave his statement in 2016 after I filed for divorce and it was in the public domain
EL so he lied because of the media?
AH I am not calling anyone a liar. I don’t know why the officers said what they said.
AH no
EL do you remember texting your father?
AH no
EL your mother -
AH I don’t remember that but I would have
EL what about your assistant SM
AH she was in the UK at the time
EL do you remember...
[we go to the text]
EL it says "please don’t text Rocky or anyone - it’s okay” why would you do that?
AH Savannah was in the UK and I tried to call her right before JD threw the phone in my face.
EL was it because...
AH no I’ve nver done that. I was texting SM cos JD became convinced… instead of coming over to talk about his recently deceased mother or not seen each other...
AH I was giving context
EL you’ve just thrown her into the mix to change your account haven’t you?
AH absolutely not, I’ve never changed my account
[new file]
EL who took all these
AH I can’t remember RP or Josh. I assume it was RP
EL we go to another, different photo - the lighting looks different here
AH yes we’re in a different room
EL were these all taken on your...
AH yes they were on my phone I don’t know if they were sent to me
EL who took them?
AH I just told you I don’t remember
EL RP or Josh?
AH I assume RP
Judge - this is for your or Mr Sherborn’s closing submission. If you want to ask a question…
EL okay I’ll ask you to compare two images. Did you or anyone change the colouration on these images?
AH no
[EL says we’re looking at the same photo - one has been enlarged]
EL do you agree?
AH yes
EL and this one has a distinct red mark or abrasion that wasn’t there earlier
AH it looks like the injuries are getting more pronounced
EL but then they change...
AH it is not as visible
EL it is not there at all. and on this one it is not there at all
AH it’s too blown to see
Judge - so you say it’s visible in 214
AH yes your Lordship
EL you see it in either of these
AH I see it. in 212
AH yes
[you get the picture]
[well, you don’t, and neither do we]
EL there’s no mark under the eye that we could see under the other photos, is there?
AH my cheek is still bruised. This is 6 days later
EL is that a spot on your cheek there
AH it’s from the same bruise
AH I didn’t get bruised twice
[we go to yet more photos]
EL AH who was clasping a laptop arrived at 3.30pm and did not leave until 7.30pm - on 28 May - the day after the restraining order was confirmed - correct?
AH if everyone...
I don’t know if I filed for that restraining order…
EL restraining order was 27th… does that sound right? No marks at all on your face at all here
AH it was shot by paps and if I’m out in LA I would wear make up - apart from at my court...
EL so leaving the house you would always wear make up
AH I very rarely wouldn’t
EL I am going to suggest that everything we have seen in those photos is done by you with makeup
AH I know my face had an injury
EL what do you say about this photo
AH this was on the 22nd. JD hit me on the 21st. I can touch up with concealer, after that the bruises come up and it’s harder to touch up as the skin becomes more sensitive. Days 2 and 3 are always harder to cover up.
AH quite the opposite - I was covering up my injuries as otherwise I’d have to answer questions all the time
EL a number of people at the ECB saw you and you didn’t have a single injury to your face - they’re all lying are they?
[EL says let’s stop there for the evidence. AH warned not to speak to anyone about her evidence. we go into a discussion about the trial timetable. AH still scheduled for the next two days]
And I’ll obviously put up the transcripts when I get hold of it.
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