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The UK Government Torture Report

This started in 2006 & to date it has not been addressed because successive UK Governments have green lighted a targeted operation to sweep the problem under the carpet.
In 2005, I set up a business selling CDs, namely mixtape CDs after graduating from Uni. They were prevalent in stores such as HMV, Tesco's, Woolworths and more. And Woolworths were the actual UK distributor of these mixtape CD's in 2005.
Within 1 year of trading, my home was raided by Richmond Council, The Metropolitan Police and The British Phonographic Industry. They said the CDs that I was advertising for sale were in breach of the Copyright, Patents & Designs Act.
When questioned how are these CDs illegal when Woolworths are the official UK Distributors of these CDs, and they are sold in their thousands in Tesco, Richmond Council said that no complaints were made about Tesco etc, they were only made about you.
They were not concerned that they were selling in Tesco etc & were giving out mixed messages, that there was one law for Tesco, Woolworths, HMV and another law for me. Therefore, criminal complaints were made against Tesco and co.
Our complaints were mishandled. We found out that no one was actually investigating the likes of Tesco / HMV regarding the CDs I was raided for. We were just fobbed off by the UK authorities as they were not doing anything to the retail giants.
Although no criminal investigation was taking place against against Tesco and co, the UK Authorities threatened me with my arrest if I went into Tesco & other stores to purchase one of these CDs as evidence.
And then a cover up began. Prior to 2006, I never had a problem with the Metropolitan Police and I couldn't understand why people moaned about the police. Little did I know that the following is what actually goes on behind closed doors at the Met.
In my case, the Metropolitan Police would not allow due process to take place. They instead started to change all the paperwork in the case to make out I was raided for something else and not the same goods as Tesco, HMV etc.
The paperwork all changed from Copyright to Trade Mark. My arrest details even changed from being arrested for CDs in breach of copyright, to being arrested for DVDs in breach of the Trade Marks Act. My company wasn't selling any DVDs - a complete stitch up.
I was being framed by the Metropolitan Police who committed criminal acts by falsifying and changing a search warrant and by falsifying and changing my arrest details.
But the Metropolitan Police were caught out red handed with their frame up. And as we have conclusive evidence to prove it, they have remained silent ever since. They have never addressed it.

14 years later, Cressida Dick and Scotland Yard remain silent.
No respite was given. This is how the UK Authorities operate. Immediately after the Metropolitan Police were caught out, ex-Metropolitan Police detective turned private investigator Ron Harrison of Surelock Global Private Investigators was then commissioned to frame me & my mum.
At the day of the raids, some items of clothing were seized for testing as I was about to set up a clothing company in the future.

We then received a witness statement which falsely stated that my mum and I had been selling counterfeit clothing
After months of worry and gathering evidence to prove the frame up, the Surelock Global Private Investigators frame up was also foiled.

The "counterfeit" clothing was eventually returned back to us.
If we could not disprove the entirely false witness statement, my mum and I would most likely be imprisoned.

Surelock Global Private Investigators have never provided an explanation. They have remained silent ever since which is a common theme in this report.
After the 2nd frame up went wrong, I received the charging decision from the the CPS which stated no further action.

I then gave notice of my intention to commence legal action against the Met Police and Richmond Council for the frame ups and falsification of paperwork.
I went to the Crown Prosecution to get my file for my legal action against the Metropolitan Police. The CPS said they are exempt from Data Protection Act requests.

I saw later that they have a form for Data Protection Act requests. The CPS were fobbing me off.
I always trusted authority and I never doubted when the Crown Prosecution Service said that they are exempt from Data Protection Act requests that they were being untruthful.

They stand for the law, so why were they lying to me? I went back to the CPS.
When I went back to the Crown Prosecution Service, I was met by a lawyer in the corridor who would not allow me to visit the public reception claiming that I could be carrying a gun. She said that I need an appointment to hand in my form.
There are no scanners at the Crown Prosecution Service in Tolworth Towers (circa 2006), so how can an appointment be the decisive factor as to whether a member of public would bring a gun or leave it behind?
I booked an appointment for the next day to hand in my subject access request form to the Crown Prosecution Service. When my mother and I entered the building, a CPS lawyer prevented us from going to the public reception to hand in my form.
The Crown Prosecution Service lawyer said that he is not allowed to accept my form and if we do not leave he will call the Metropolitan police to arrest us. We refused to leave as we had an appointment to hand in our form & it is not against the law to hand in a form.
The Crown Prosecution Service lawyer, Tony Levy, then telephoned the Metropolitan Police to arrest my mother and I to prevent us from handing in a subject access request form.
We were subsequently arrested by the Metropolitan Police and taken to the police station.

The arrest sheet confirms that we were arrested because the Crown Prosecution Service refused to accept a Data Protection Act form.
So why did the CPS go to these drastic lengths to avoid accepting a form?

The CPS are another public body like the Met Police who must be fair, open and transparent as the public are led to believe.

In this case, they have been silent & unaccountable since 2006.
Therefore, I can only give my view. And it is my view that because I announced my intention to sue the #Metpolice and Richmond Council, the Crown Prosecution Service went to these drastic lengths and then afterwards further abused their powers to change the charging decision.
And I was then taken through the UK Courts without any evidence whatsoever.

And if you care about the justice system, you will be horrified at the lengths Her Majesty's Court Service went to in this case.
The charge on the Indictment was for 1 Alicia Keys CD breaching the Trade Marks Act.

The committal bundle is supposed to contain all the witness statements and evidence that the prosecution wish to rely on for the charge being tried at the Crown Court.
The committal bundle I received did not have one exhibit relating to the charge that they wanted to try at the Crown Court - 1 CD breach of TradeMark

It instead comprised of paperwork relating to Copyright offences which were not trialable at the Crown Court.
To conclusively prove the stitch up involving HM Court Service, Richmond Council and the Crown Prosecution Service, have a look at the Indictment (pic below) & compare it with the Committal bundle anyflip.com/zwewq/khos

You will not find the 1 Alicia Keys CD in there.
Put yourself in my position. The Indictment says you have been selling 1 Alicia Keys CD and in the paperwork there is no mention of you buying this CD, possessing this CD or selling this CD.

And furthermore, the CD in question does not even appear in the papers.
The entire trial at the Crown Court is about 1 CD, and yet the 1 CD is not even an exhibit - does not appear anywhere.

Usually when people are set up it is difficult to prove, but here it can be proved easily, just see the committal bundle.
If you look at the committal bundle, you will see that Russell Cooke Solicitors name appears on every sheet as they faxed that committal bundle [within their Formal Brief to Counsel] to 5 Papers Buildings for a barrister to represent me.
And this proves that my own lawyers Russell Cooke Solicitors are complicit as they should have had the case thrown out when they saw the committal bundle.

And Russell Cooke Solicitors actions only got worse.
When Russell Cooke Solicitors were aware that I had the original formal brief to counsel (which enclosed the committal bundle), they demanded it back.

When that didn't work, they threatened me with legal action if I did not return it.
And why did Russell Cooke Solicitors go to these drastic lengths of demanding and threatening legal action when they know all work they do on behalf of a client is their client's property?
It's because Russell Cooke Solicitors were well aware of how damming the committal bundle is, insofar that the charge at the Crown Court was 1 CD breaching the Trade Marks Act, yet the committal bundle bears no relevance to the charge.
I didn't return the formal brief to counsel to Russell Cooke Solicitors because this document easily proves the entire conspiracy

And with it being the original fax to 5 Paper Buildings, it is verification that they were the papers used at the time.
How did this get to trial when there is no shred of evidence (not even one exhibit) against me?

It's because HM Court Service turned due process into a charade.

They denied me my legal right to contest the committal and unlawfully committed me to face trial.
This means I was sent to face trial without considering whether there was sufficient evidence to do so.

I was unlawfully committed to face trial contrary to s6(2) MCA 1980. And the law states it renders the proceedings null and void.
We are all told that we have human rights, a right to a fair trial, a right to see the case against you etc.

In this case, I never received any case papers relating to the charge set out on the Indictment despite numerous requests both at Court & in writing.
Similarly, we are all told that we have a right to call witnesses for your defence.

However, in my case I was denied my legal right to call my witnesses.
It's bad enough being tried when the Crown Court have no jurisdiction to try you....

And being tried with no paperwork or evidence relating to the charge...

And being tried without your own witnesses...

But HM Court Service left nothing to chance, not even the jury!
On my jury was an employee of Russell Cooke Solicitors, the firm who were caught out not working in my interests and the firm who threatened me with legal action if I did not return the original faxed committal bundle.
So Russell Cooke Solicitors went from representing me, to threatening me with legal action to being on my jury.

When someone threatens legal action it usually means litigation. I had no idea that legal action meant that they would be sitting on my jury!
Her Majesty's Court Service and the jury were aware at the start of the trial that I am unrepresented as Russell Cooke Solicitors were not working in my interests.

This was stated in my defence case statement and at trial.
And it took towards the end of the trial, for the juror to stop the trial to say she wants to be fair but she can't because she works for Russell Cooke Solicitors.
The Russell Cooke Solicitors juror would have been aware that it was a conflict of interests for her to be on my jury at the start of the trial, and for her to come clean at the end of the trial means that her conscience got the better of her.
But even this did not stop Her Majesty's Court Service.

No evidence, no case papers, no witnesses, no jurisdiction to even try the matter & even when the jury is compromised, HM Court Service proceeds with the trial.
I then had to proceed with a compromised jury. And even knowing that the jury was compromised, I still proved that I had not sold, purchased or possessed this 1 Alicia Keys CD. And then it all changed overnight.
The prosecution then revealed I was on trial for 4,000 CDs breaching the Trade Marks Act which was totally untrue as I was on trial for just one CD breaching the Trade Marks Act which anyone can see by viewing the Indictment
The Judge added the final nail in the coffin by explaining to the Jury that I was misleading the jury & that I am on trial for 4,000 CDs breaching the Trade Marks Act, not 1 CD.
What chance do I have when the Judge is discrediting me and adding an extra 3,999 CDs to the Trial?
I then heard the guilty verdict which was upsetting enough & the Judge then made things worse by outlining that I will be sentenced for 4,000 CDs in breach of Trade Mark when the Indictment was for 1 CD
I was facing imprisonment because the Judge changed the extent of the charge during the trial. There is a big difference between 1 CD in breach of Trade Mark and 4,000 CDs. And the difference is prison
"You shall see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living"

And then a complete stranger came to my rescue to stop me from being imprisoned. A man named Solomon Green from the Richmond Upon Thames area heard about my case and was horrified.
He said his family couldn't sleep at night after hearing about what has happened and he went out of his way to try to stop the sentencing hearing from taking place.

He even appointed solicitors on my behalf.
The solicitors tried to stop the sentencing hearing on the basis that an appeal is pending and that it was a straightforward matter to prove that the Crown Court had no jurisdiction to try the matter and therefore have no jurisdiction to pass sentence
The Judge however, proceeded with the sentencing hearing outlining that appeals can drag on a long time and therefore it is in the interest of the defendant that sentencing takes place before the appeal is heard.
Although the solicitors could not stop the sentencing, they did however, convince the Judge to change her mind to sentence me for 1 CD instead of 4,000 CDs breaching the Trade Marks Act

And by the grace of God, I walked free.
The real hero here is the Great British Public. One man and his family came to a complete strangers rescue to stop him from being wrongly imprisoned.

This is what you call real charity. His name is Solomon Green. May the blessings of the LORD be upon him and his family.
And just like the instances of the Metropolitan Police and the Crown Prosecution Service, none of the above relating to HM Court Service has been addressed to date.

My appeal lodged in 2008, yet to be heard. Stuck with null and void conviction on my name.
I've taken this matter to the UK High Court. They have denied permission to hear these matters without providing a valid reason.

The Judges have even stated on court record "please stop...I do not want to hear the breaches."
I have been sending this out on social media since 2015 to raise awareness and ultimately for it to be addressed.

As HM Court Service have remained silent, I have unwittingly owned their hashtag --> #HMCTS since 2015.
The Attorney General is also aware of this case. To get this to the attention of the Attorney General should be a good thing as it's their job to look into this and put things right.
Instead, the Attorney General has blocked my twitter account(s). When asked in written complaints why this was done, the Attorney General office went against their complaints procedure by failing to respond.
And that says it all really. If none of the above was true, would the Attorney General block me knowing that I am owning the #HMCTS hashtag & doing thousands of HM Court Service caught out & silent T-Shirt competitions?
Although this may seem to be doom and gloom to the avid reader, what you are actually witnessing is the Glory of God

HM Court Service, The Metropolitan Police, Richmond Council, The Crown Prosecution Service, Russell Cooke Solicitors & Surelock all caught out & all silent.
And none of their plans have prevailed.
Instead of processing my appeal in 2008 so that I can move on with my life, what followed was a 12 year targeted operation to silence my mother and I and to sweep all the above under the carpet
If you said to me in 2006, that the UK Government, the Police, the Courts, Banks, Solicitors, Private Investigators, Local authorities, Telecom, Utility & Recruitment giants & many more would come against us, I would have said we would have no chance
And the truth is that we would have had no chance. But at that time in my life I never knew or had witnessed the efficacy of Gods Word.

This is what the LORD of Hosts did to their subsequent targeted operation.
Although I have evidence on the Metropolitan Police, Surelock Private Investigators, Russell Cooke Solicitors, The Crown Prosecution Service & HM Court Service, I casted it all to God and made efforts to move on with my life.
I got a great job and I was pursuing a career in investments. I was not sending any of this out on social media as it all behind me.

But the UK Authorities wouldn't allow us to move on. They have invested a lot time and resources into this.
UK Government departments, companies, banks and local authorities all followed the "same pattern" to try to take away every asset we had, whether it be our money, our car and even our house.

And they continued to try to take away our liberty.
Two companies, EE and UK Mail, both of whom I have never had any dealings with suddenly started to frame me. Companies are in the business of making money, not framing citizens. Why would two companies do this?

The good news is that EE and UK Mail also did not prevail.

The bad news is that they too have never been accountable for their actions. They shouldn't be allowed to frame innocent people to support the UK Government's agenda.
When the EE and UK Mail frame up didn't succeed, they remained silent.

Another party then gets involved and the same pattern has continued throughout the entire targeted operation.
And that's why this report is so big and involves so many parties. In their desire to get the job done, the UK Authorities have involved numerous parties who are witnessing the power of 4 hours of prayer a day. Not one thing has succeeded.
Richmond Council started to overcharge over £1,500 in Council Tax every year. They ignored letters of complaints to avoid addressing this matter to try to make us penniless. Why would they do this?

The harassment went on for years.

The good news is that it also went totally wrong for Richmond Council and they were forced to return thousands of pounds.

They have also never explained their actions.
And then came Direct Line. They collected our car following an accident. They would not return it. They ignored over 7 letters of complaints and later revealed we owed over a grand in storage charges & it's going up by £25 a day. Why would they do this?
It also went totally wrong for Direct Line and they did not succeed in their unlawful enforcement. They had to waive thousands of pounds in storage charges. But they wouldn't let it go.
They tried again. This time they took to fraud.

According to Direct Line and the Financial Ombudsman Service we had lost our accident claim.

Years later, we found out that Direct Line and the FOS were lying. We had actually won the claim.
Why would Direct Line and the Financial Ombudsman Service do this?

Direct Line and the Financial Ombudsman have never explained their actions.

The monies Direct Line pocketed years earlier was unexpectedly returned to us through the grace of God.
And then our home was targeted via the exact same process. Letters of complaints were ignored by Halifax Bank in order to overcharge thousands of pounds and to ultimately repossess our home.

Halifax Bank were avoiding discussing a revised payment plan for years as my mother was on Job Seekers Allowance and they have to be fair when a debtor is on Job Seekers.

Instead she experienced repeated attempts to try to remove her from Job Seekers Allowance.
Most notably was what happened at Office Angels. Office Angels were about to provide a note confirming her attendance to her appointment and Adecco, their parent company intervened.

Adecco's reasoning behind stopping Office Angels from providing the note was that she (my mum) can't always get what she wants.

And Adecco didn't want her to have the note at all costs. Without the note she would lose Job Seekers Allowance.
Adecco went to the drastic lengths of calling the Metropolitan Police to arrest her rather than to provide her with the note confirming attendance.

This was a pivotal moment as without the note my mum would not only lose Job Seekers Allowance but would most likely lose her house
But as with everything in the UK Government Torture Report, the Light always overcomes the darkness. She obtained her arrest sheet from the Metropolitan Police and this proved that she had attended her appointment. So what was it all for #Adecco?
And it backfired because a multinational company with over 5,200 branches in over 60 countries, have had their hashtag ---> #Adecco owned since 2015.

Adecco silent whilst over 10,000 Adecco caught out & silent T-Shirt Competitions have since come and gone
After the Adecco shambles, Halifax Bank finally broke their years of silence and started to acknowledge our letters of complaints and acknowledge that my mother was in award of Job Seekers Allowance. Their sinister actions continued however.
And their threats to repossess continued. After they started legal action, my brother and I had to intervene to pay off the remaining mortgage in one go including all the unlawful fees overcharged.
"Power Belongs to God."

They did not succeed in repossessing the home and all the fees Halifax Bank unlawfully overcharged us, were returned to us in full years later without us even asking for it.

They too have never explained their actions.
Doing tasks such as paying a bill should be straightforward. But simple tasks such as these are interfered with.

A prime example is British Gas whom we never had a problem with for over 35 years until the UK Authorities started their operation.

British Gas commenced enforcement for non payment of bills which was strange as all our bills were paid on time.
Telephoned customer services who revealed that we had paid another British Gas customer's account by mistake.
They said it was their error (wrong account number on pre-printed giro slip) & they apologised.

So that should have been the end of the story.
But the enforcement continued. And when this matter was raised to British Gas CEO department they stated that they haven't made an error and that everything that their customer services team told us was incorrect.
British Gas CEO department performed a cover up in order to continue with their unlawful enforcement. Why would they do this?
The good news is that British Gas also did not prevail. They were caught out as we obtained the original giro slip from Barclays Bank which proved that we had paid another customer's bill through the fault of British Gas.
So why did British Gas's CEO office confirm in writing that their customer services team had given us incorrect information, when it was later proven & admitted that they were actually telling the truth?

It's because British Gas wanted to proceed with their unlawful enforcement
#BritishGas should not be doing enforcement against people who are paying their bills on time. This is clearly wrong.

And as with every party involved, they were given a notice of publication for their right of reply & British Gas remained silent.
UK Retail stores are also involved in this. There are at least 15 stores involved. I am only including a few examples here as the main issue is what the Metropolitan Police and HM Court Service did, not the subsequent operation to silence us.
From the outset you may be dubious, anyone would be, thinking why would UK Retail stores be involved in this?

And the short answer is that because everything in this case went completely wrong for the UK Authorities, they have been abusing their powers to make it go away.
The UK Authorities are in daily contact with retail stores. For example, CCTV controllers and undercover teams notify security teams in shops when a suspected shoplifter has entered a store. They work closely with one another.
But the UK Authorities and UK Retail stores should not be working hand in hand with one another to harass British Citizens who are simply fighting for justice.

The harassment is done to antagonise the target with the intention that they retaliate.
Simple tasks such as collecting medication at Asda are made extremely difficult. They took in my mother's prescriptions & then didn't provide her with a docket. Every customer before & after my mother received a docket.
When asked where is my docket for my prescriptions, the Asda staff could not provide an answer and referred her to a pharmacist who repeatedly tried to cause an argument by antagonising her.
Asda would not provide a reason why she could not have a docket. When someone is deliberately trying to annoy you and are making simple things impossible, I am sure you can appreciate it is difficult to stay cool, calm and collected under these circumstances.
But testament to my mum, she remained calm in this situation although it's most likely because she was recording the entire episode on tape (due to all the nonsense experienced in the targeted operation).
She left Asda without the prescriptions as they didn't return them and she had to go back to the doctors to reissue duplicate prescriptions. But it shouldn't be like that.

Asda should not be playing with peoples lives.
Most importantly, she didn't rise to the bait. All that effort to antagonise her backfired. They got nothing out of this except us being able to prove it all on tape & highlighting it.

Asda have since apologised.
One may assume that the Asda incident is isolated. When the same pattern has occurred over a large period of time, it is more than a coincidence.
Simple routine tasks such as returning items to a store that have a clear fault are also made extremely difficult. In the case of John Lewis and Partners, it was made impossible.
John Lewis do not have a leg to stand on in this instance.

A dress was being returned with a broken zip. Even a 3 year old knows when a zip is broken but the John Lewis and Partners manager started to play games refusing to acknowledge that the zip was broken.
The John Lewis manager kept saying that there was nothing wrong with the zip making out that my mother was imagining it all. Furthermore, he was overjoyed whilst doing this smiling, laughing and chuckling trying to provoke a reaction.
But it backfired spectacularly on the John Lewis and Partners manager. Just I was saved from imprisonment by the Great British Public, the Great British Public also came to my mother's aid at John Lewis.
They saw what the John Lewis manager was doing & started to intervene pointing out that the zip was broken.

They couldn't understand what he was playing at, but we knew what he was doing because of what we have experienced in our fight for justice as documented in this thread.
And then harassment was turned into a comedy. When confronted by members of the public, the John Lewis manager couldn't keep up the facade.

He panicked and legged it. He ran away.
Customers were describing the fault explaining that it's clear that the zip is not working & then when my mother looked back at the John Lewis manager, he legged it. He did a runner.
The customers couldn't believe what was going on. Instead of admitting that there was a fault, the John Lewis manager ran, ran and kept running.
So why did John Lewis do this & why did their manager run away when he got caught out? Well, you can write to customer services, their chairman, their #CEO but they will not put pen to paper on this matter. They follow the same pattern where they will not answer to their actions.
And the main pattern in the UK retail stores follow the theme of provoking the target until they kick off. Even the use of a gift voucher is made difficult since our fight for justice against the Metropolitan Police & HM Court Service.

The Body Shop team leader would not allow my mum to use her gift voucher which is strange & even stranger she refused to provide her name to support this action as she said it's against Body Shop's policy to give out names, even their first names.
My mum had to think fast and picked up the first item that was in front of her to make a purchase but the team leader would not process it. After my mum started raising her voice several times "can I buy this", she was finally allowed to make a purchase.
And the team leader was immediately caught out lying as her name appeared on the receipt so it's not against their company policy to give out names. Ask yourself why would she be blatantly lying?

The Body Shop have since apologised.
Some people may think that there is no smoke without fire & that all these retail stores can't be involved in this because of one family's fight for justice. But in each case, it is the retail store doing wrong. Simple tasks shouldn't be like this.
For example at Asda, it's not our fault that they refused to provide a docket and failed to provide any reason for doing so. And who gives them the right to withhold prescriptions in essence playing with peoples lives.
Likewise in the case of John Lewis And Partners, it is not our fault that they decided to make out a zip is working when it was clearly broken & when members of the public saw what was going on, it's not our fault that their manager decides to leg it.
And again in the case of The Body Shop. My mum is only using a gift voucher. Who gives them the right to say she is not allowed to use a gift voucher and who gives them to right to lie about their company policy?
And this leads me to Wickes. Again a simple task of picking up a click & collect order. And Wickes get you to sign receipt of the item and then intentionally give you a different item. Again whose fault is this?
But on each occasion, my mum has not kicked off. None of their plans have prevailed. And in the Wickes example, you will again see that it backfired as it was the Wickes manager who went completely berserk & totally lost the plot.
And it went so badly wrong that Wickes have never answered to their manager's actions who went all out to try to antagonise my mum including shouting out in the store that my mum is a thief.

Wickes caught out & silent.
And the same happened with Care Outlook.

Care Outlook went to great lengths to antagonise my mum into an altercation, whilst secretly recording her to use as evidence, but through the grace of God, it was the carer who lost the plot.

Care Outlook are also silent & have failed to respond to serious allegations of a frame up.

All these parties are happy to be complicit with this operation to silence us but when it goes wrong, the ironic part of it is that they respond with silence.
The frame up went so badly wrong that my mum was not arrested despite Care Outlook and a carer calling 999 to say that my mum had assaulted the carer.

The Metropolitan Police spoke to my mum for over an hour without even taking her name.
And when the Metropolitan Police wrote up their notes, they smeared my mum in writing as being the most rudest and most obstructive person they've ever encountered in over 10 years.

This means worse than drunks, drug dealers, rapists, thugs etc.
How clear do the Metropolitan Police want to make it that on the day they don't arrest her or even take her name but when it comes to writing up their notes, they describe her as being the worst person they've ever encountered.
This is how the Metropolitan Police operates. They smear their targets who are fighting for justice so that they can later use these smears as evidence against their targets. i.e. if one of their plans are successful, they will use the smear as evidence to support it.
And the Care Outlook frame up went so badly wrong that Care Outlook can't put pen to paper to it. And so wrong that Cressida Dick's office unlawfully destroyed all the video evidence. And really really wrong that the Met Police said 999 can be used for advice.
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