Another installment of #NathanCofnas says the words, but when others quote the words, he didn't say them like this and they must be lying. Also, he'll have you know he's talked to lawyers about his words being quoted. Just don't say that's a legal threat!
Wherever would people get the idea that #NathanCofnas thinks himself both superior in his intelligence while also victimized by criticism against hereditarian ideas?
Nathan is quite adept at shining the spotlight at a very short reference to his work, making a mountain out of it, and thereby obscuring the view to more damning points that are made in its vicinity. 1) Jackson & Winston‘s ref to Cofnas in its context. 2) Cofnas‘ protest.
In case you’ve been blocked, here is Emil Kirkegaard coming to Nathan Cofnas‘ defence. And look, there’s a serial killer avatar getting his points in as well.
Some believe #NathanCofnas when he says that despite writing about “race” he really means “groups” which, when it comes down to it, are his ideas about how policy should be applied to “individuals.” Let Jonathan’s mini-thread prevent falling in into trap.
I can't always seem to find the patience that others have. I'm often sorry about that. I edited my response to this thread in an effort to be a little nicer. You can still see how shaky the defence is of what emerge as noticeable implications from #NathanCofnas' published work.
Someone asked me, in response to my mini-thread above, why I would object to keeping "equally smart" kids out of the same class. He also suggested that Phillippe's defence is not elaborate, but a plain reading of #NathanCofnas's paper. I think the opposite is true. My response:
You presume we have an agreement on "equally smart." Nathan presumes IQ is an established measure of it.
I don't agree with that.
To make it worse: Nathan is concerned particularly with IQ differences between racial groups (the point of his paper).
Mine is an obvious reading.
John is correct, of course: in his paper with Andrew Winston, they speak of a "two-tiered educational system." It was #NathanCofnas himself who brought up segregation when, wrongly, he wanted to claim that he was being misquoted and defamed.
Third, the policies Cofnas proposes on the basis of hereditarian positions can hardly be defended by claiming they don't result in segregation. Because they do. According to current understanding of the term. Which, unlike Cofnas seems to think, is not limited to de jure notions.
To end this thread. Segregation doesn't have to be explicitly advocated by hereditarians. The kind of policies that Cofnas and his defenders imagine will result in forms of educational segregation, whether segregation is explicitly named as goal or not.
It really is so very bothersome that there is smearing and name-calling in conversations between anti- and hereditarians. By all means let’s condemn those who call the others “lying idiots” who are “deranged.” *thumbs up*
I can't always seem to find the patience that others have. I'm often sorry about that. I edited my response to this thread in an effort to be a little nicer. You can still see how shaky the defence is of what emerge as noticeable implications from #NathanCofnas' published work.
Someone asked me, in response to my mini-thread above, why I would object to keeping "equally smart" kids out of the same class. He also suggested that Phillippe's defence is not elaborate, but a plain reading of #NathanCofnas's paper. I think the opposite is true. My response:
Neat how the study presents Trump as a garden variety conservative who neatly balances the scale to Biden, Warren, or Sanders. Rather than as the white supremacist, misogynist, and transphobe that he is.
"Female students reported less tolerance for speakers than male students. LGBT students reported less tolerance for speakers than straight students. Black students reported less tolerance than Hispanic, Asian, or white students."
Whysoever would these groups of students not support Donald Trump coming to their campus to give a rousing campaign speech? It's is truly a free speech mystery.
And also when you’re for sure only talking about your hobby horse, biological sex, and never about gender.
It's not the first time that Colin Wright has mocked an announcement from my own university. Last time it was a job ad in forestry. This time it's a page on the website of the the Indigenous teacher education program.
The discussion shows the opposite: there is no consilience in sight between what this ML physiognomy paper says and what is suggested by evidence from other research fields.
Rich perspectives from across fields say, no, these aren't strong claims. The opposite of consilience.
Last spring, when the pandemic hit, I've had three conference talks cancelled. This week, I received emails from two of the conferences about resurrecting the program in 2021, and whether I would like the papers submitted in the past to go ahead as they were. 1/
One of the conferences was to be held in a location in Canada. The health district where it would have taken place has a cumulative #COVID19 count of 206 cases and 6 deaths. 2/
The conference organizers are taking the conference online--with apologies to those for whom that's a barrier. I will be able to attend. 3/