I put "debate" in quotes because this won't be an actual debate. He'll ignore anything that shows his 'facts' are opinions or disproves his claims and just bulldoze forward or change the subject. He'll pretend that counterpoints just didn't exist. He's already doing it
This is not a new thing. Christian proselytizers have been doing this for around 1000 years. It's always a trap.
This is a response to a tweet that wasn't even *that* rude, at the culmination of a very long, very frustrating exchange with someone else. Our troll here want involved until he interjected to tone police.
The implication is that you've been having a logical debate, and getting upset is a sign that you don't have a good argument. But that isn't what's been happening, and even if it were, displaying emotion isn't actually a sign of irrationality. The whole assertion is bad faith.
This is an easy follow up to #2. The very reasonable, rational explanation that repeatedly violating someone's boundaries and acting disrespectfully towards them deserves dismissal, the proselytizer/troll refocuses on what's wrong with YOU.
There could never be anything wrong with the proselytizer. There is no line that the proselytizer could ever cross that deserves pushback. If you're not accepting the message in a calm and grateful way, it's because something's wrong with you and you should fix it.
Ironically, this is just a more 'polite', more verbose version of the thing the proselytizer-troll is implying you are doing. Rather than acknowledging your points and having a rational discussion, they are dodging accountability by attacking you as a person.
4 - Insist that a refusal to engage is proof that the proselytizer-troll must be right.
The fact of the matter is that I have *already* had this debate. I had it just now, on Twitter, in the thread this guy is replying to. I've had it a million times before with a million other proselytizers.
We've been having it for 1000 years. The demand here, asserted by an appeal to try to get me angry and defensive so I'll protect my intellectual honor, is that I have to "debate" every single Christian on Earth in order to have a right to believe what I believe and be left alone
In fact, I don't have to debate it with anyone. Proselytizing is a violation of boundaries. It's the proselytizer who is inserting himself, unasked, into someone else's personal life. It's an inherently invasive act, as shown by the fact that it's pursued by trolling.
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Okay, since you insist on continuing to push your beliefs at me, despite my having made it clear I'm uninterested, let me be blunt about what I think about those beliefs and why. I think they are based on, not just misinterpretation, but a perversion of my religion.
The Torah, which means "teaching", is extremely clear about what God wants humans to do. God wants us to pursue justice, welcome the stranger and treat them well, care for the powerless and vulnerable and act towards one another with lovingkindness.
The thing that the Torah warns against, over and over, is idol worship. Don't put anything between you and me, says God. Don't think that what you are supposed to do is sacrifice your children to me, or put your energy into worshipping something. What I want is for you to Do Good
You already packed the court. That's what holding vacancies open for nearly a *year* under a Democratic president so that they can be filled by a Republican is. That's court packing. What we're going to do now is expand the courts.
Something we're WAY overdue for, by the way, and something that "originalists" ought to love. The size of the Supreme Court isn't fixed in the Constitution, precisely because it's meant to be adjusted to fit the needs of the country as it grows.
The court hasn't been expanded in over a hundred years, despite dramatic growth in population and the size of the federal court system. We're overdue.
Honestly, just everything from Princess Bride is fantastic for this.
"Since the invention of the kiss, there have been 5 kisses that have been rated the most passionate, the most pure. This one left them all behind due to the pandemic."
I'm not a witch, I'm your wife, and after what you just said I'm not even sure I want to be that anymore due to the pandemic!
Okay, actually I will explicitly refute just one of these, because it's one that I haven't seen before and therefore haven't already explained a million times.
First off, background that HAS been explained ad nauseum:
The sin of Sodom had nothing to do with homosexuality. It was mistreating the poor and needy, particularly when the means to help them was plentiful. This is explicit in Ezekiel 16:49 and extremely common Jewish exegesis
And we're talking *extraordinary* selfishness. There's midrash that a woman was caught feeding a beggar, and her punishment was being covered in honey and placed before a hive of bees. It was her screams as she was being stung to death that caught God's attention.
It's always fun when I tweet something about Judaism not having just one normative style of practice and then Israeli Jews jump on me to tell me that in Israel you're basically either Orthodox or non-religious, like I didn't already know Israelis don't care about the diaspora.
Also though, that's more a statement of belief than a statement of fact. While the majority of Jews who consider themselves religious in Israel align with Orthodox movements (which don't line up perfectly with US Orthodox movements), there is a "progressive Judaism" presence.
The Israel Movement for Reform and Progressive Judaism lists 50 congregations in Israel, most of which are led by a Rabbi.