I have a suspicion that HR research BP Malini Rao had a lot to do with this. And my best friend Kate from legal who threw me and @kat_heller under the bus before. They’ve been looking for this opportunity, and @JeffDean just works with them to do these things to people it seems.
They have had it in for me since day 1. So much to say about this but I’ll save it for later. Many stories about what they said and did (about me to others). Malini Rao, I had also heard, had a huge hand in pushing out another woman out of research a while ago, a DEI advocate.
Remember when I said that every time I wrote an email to a list that’s supposed to be for women and allies I got harassed? Who do you think by? And you have leaders who are talking heads about DEI working with known toxic HR BPs.
Btw I had raised the issue of the toxic HR leadership before. @kat_heller and I had even asked other leads to do something about it, I believe they might have met with Jeff and Maggie even. But you have leaders who are DEI mouthpieces doing this with toxic HR departments.
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1/Man there’s so much to pick apart. Let’s start with one thing. I want to ask if Jeff Dean has looked at the publication approval policy that he keeps on mentioning in his email. Like, for example, a simple look at the website? Let’s read.
2/First off “Start the PubApprove process at least 1 week in advance of any deadline”. Okay, not sure where the 2 weeks in Jeff’s email came from.
3/ But ALSO “The perfect policy” “There is no such thing as the perfect policy. Fortunately Googlers like to do the right thing. Please do that here—read the policy and do what makes sense.”
My experience reminds me of this radio lab episode wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radio…. I think one story is how Stanford reduced lawsuits by just treating patient’s families as humans, rather than liabilities. It’s dumbfounding how Google people thought this was the best recourse for them.
It didn’t have to get to this AT ALL. Simple dialogue rather than constant lawyer speak that you know is coming from people who are just waiting for an in. I even wonder if it came from my best friend the lawyer who threw me and @kat_heller under the bus last year?
Treating people as liabilities and just ordering them around rather than simple dialogue, escalated things unnecessarily. In what world does it make sense to respond to conditions asking for meetings and understanding reaearch parameters, by saying nope bye.
The email says "Thanks for making your conditions clear. We cannot agree to #1 and #2 as you are requesting. We respect your decision to leave Google as a result, and we are accepting your resignation."
"However, we believe the end of your employment should happen faster than your email reflects because certain aspects of the email you sent last night to non-management employees in the brain group reflect behavior that is inconsistent with the expectations of a Google manager."
I was fired by @JeffDean for my email to Brain women and Allies. My corp account has been cutoff. So I've been immediately fired :-)
I would post my email here but my corp account has been cutoff. I feel bad for my teammates but for me its better to know the beast than to pretend. @negar_rz didn't even have any idea things had escalated this quickly.
I need to be very careful what I say so let me be clear. They can come after me. No one told me that I was fired. You know legal speak, given that we're seeing who we're dealing with. This is the exact email I received from Megan who reports to Jeff
@ylecun I appreciate you writing that Yann. I would write a more detailed reply but I’m exhausted as many pointed have out. I’d like to start with @mmitchell_ai's doc on apology which I hope you read: docs.google.com/document/d/1Hw… (1/N)
@ylecun@mmitchell_ai We’re often told things like “I’m sorry that’s how it made you feel.” That doesn’t really own up to the actual thing. I hope you understand *why* *how* you communicated became the story. It became the story because its a pattern of marginalization. (2/N)
@ylecun@mmitchell_ai And people like me engaging with that is also a pattern of marginalization. It causes incredible harm. Before we talk again, you need to commit to educating yourself and that takes a lot of time. (3/N)
I don't think there is a single Black woman at Google who was hired under a research scientist position. So far I haven't found one. And I don't think that there has ever been. No wonder I"m going crazy.
I don't think anyone understands what it is like to be an outspoken Black woman in this field. Someone who is technical while trying to learn from historians, tech critics, social scientists, and artists in this field.
I will say that no one understands. It is not just Google. It is the whole industry, conferences, everything. While doing the emotional labor to console literally everyone who looks like me that I know in this field. Especially those who are trying to do what I'm trying to do.