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21 Dec, 16 tweets, 5 min read
These data are interesting and should be studied by Dems, w/ Latino politicians, academics, etc. taking the lead. I am not going to opine on why I think these shifts occurred, given I do not belong to one of the aforementioned groups. I will make a few other comments
1st, the visualizations are of shifts. Biden still won many of the areas in the article by a lot. The shift scale is from 10-30%. The shifts indicate changes in proportion from '16-'20. There's no way to tell if we're talking about primarily new voters, swing voters, or a mix
So, a few comments: after the election, based on the data I saw at the time, I said it was possible that the new Democratic weakness w/ Latinos was perhaps overstated by the media & very regionally specific (mostly S. FL). I think that was clearly incorrect.
Moving on: In general, I hear a lot of people--including many on the progressive left--make a general claim that Democrats need to do a better job reaching out to Latino voters. I agree that this is clearly the case, largely b/c I believe it is the right thing to do
However, whereas plenty feel free to say more outreach is needed, few elaborate on what that outreach should entail.
Many non-Latino commentators seem to imply that the most important issue to *all* Latinos is immigration, which is simply not true. Others imply that the solution is to move more left on economic issues, which I do not see as especially supported by data showing a right-swing.
This is not to say that *I* do not believe immigration reform is a moral imperative, nor is it to say that I believe it’s not of crucial importance to many Latino Americans.
I am only saying that non-Latino commentators need to stop speaking about immigration reform as if it is the primary method of locking down Latino voters. And, of course, as always, we need to stop treating Latino voters as monolithic, a related issue
So, it is of moral and electoral importance for us to examine what “reaching out” looks like, while acknowledging that this outreach cannot be monolithic, as the communities we are talking about are ideologically diverse & likely vote differently based on age, gender, region, etc
It should also be noted that Latino voters turned out in *very large numbers* for Dems and surely helped us swing both AZ & GA. It’s also true that, though our performance was good, our proportional margins did go down, either through voter choice change (2016-2020) or new voters
That being said, I will also note that in political convos we can hyper-focus on minority demos who vote somewhat differently than we expect. This can impart too much rhetorical focus on a small fraction of minority voters, rather than the much larger group of white voters
It’s good to talk about data. It’s good to talk about how to better reach certain demos, esp those who are underserved or discriminated against by our society. It’s bad to let these conversations give way to narratives that lack nuance & could be harmful to these same demos.
Another small point: Harry Enten recently did a write-up on Latino shifts and noted that at least some of what we are seeing might be an incumbency effect.

I won't argue for one explanation or another. I will say that sometimes the explanations are more mundane than we believe.
Also, in terms of the mundane: Trump's people did more on the ground work than we did. This could be another reason for some of the shifts.
I can see the harmful narrative setting has already begun. These takes lack empirical and logical justification, in addition to being pernicious. Some people were bound to use these data to argue 1. Latino voters like Trump & therefore 2. Trump's racism is overstated
The shifts are interesting and, as I said, should be examined, but Trump was *beaten* by a coalition that included the majority of Latino voters. And even if this were not the case, it would have no bearing on the *objective* fact that Trump is racist.

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21 Dec
I would say this website turns self-righteous hindsight bias into an art (& I would be correct) but at this point I don't even think a lot of folks who are aggressively engaging in such bias are applying it to memories that are factually correct.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but my personal recall of October is not that McConnell passed a bill that Pelosi turned down. I also recall that the 1.8 T deal was discussed between Mnuchin & Pelosi. & Trump lost interest at one point--entirely calling off stimulus talks altogether.
There are a lot of moving pieces here. The 1.8 T bill had a liability shield that Democrats found too much of a poison pill. There was also, of course, hope we would win the Senate and could get a better bill.
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I think a few things are true:

1. It's absolutely rage-inducing to see privileged GOP members of congress get the vaccine when they've downplayed the crisis + refused aid
2. continuity of gov makes sense*
3. politicians should get the vaccine to instill public trust
in terms of 2: continuity of government: of course Pelosi, the current occupant of the WH, Pence, Biden, & Harris should be prioritized. Why Lindsey Graham has a part in this group is understandably questionable, but it also makes logistical sense to just vaccinate them all
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I mean, there are a lot of reasons to vaccinate medical workers first, but a primary one is that we don't have enough doctors/nurses in the workforce to combat COVID even if they are all well. Hospital capacity ain't just about beds and ventilators.
remember April? When many states were spared, but the NE, esp. NYC, were just pummeled? remember how doctors and nurses bravely volunteered to travel to NY to help? How inspiring it was?

Well, that can't happen now b/c almost every state is experiencing capacity issues.
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About House Leadership:

I don't think all progressives completely realize this, but they're unlikely to get someone better for their interests than Pelosi as Speaker. She is both personally quite progressive compared to the caucus as a whole, as well as politically effective.
I have no idea what the problem with Clyburn is other than that he's older. Is he bad at whipping votes? Does he shut down prog ideas? I haven't seen any of this. In the absence of actual criticism, I find something distasteful about arguing a Civil rights leader should step down
I have less strong feelings about Hoyer. I think he can be off in messaging (not aggressive enough). The Dem House caucus was held together quite effectively during the past 2 yrs, but how much this is attributable to Hoyer, I don't know.
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I know it's not *entirely* easy, but it does present a good challenge for journalists: how do you report on a politician who has atypical speech/language? We're used to hearing about errors from politicians, so how should this be different?
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"The day after the ex-cop allegedly held the terrified repairman at gunpoint, convinced of a massive election conspiracy that did not exist, he received a wire transfer for $211,400. . .The money came from a conservative group that’s pumped up election fraud conspiracy theories"
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Just to cite a few examples: a plot to kidnap & execute a governor, threats of physical violence against Biden, Harris, MI health officials, MI legislators, GA election officials & their spouses (incl. sexual threats in some cases, as well as 1 lynching threat in MI). . . .
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