Some thoughts on episode 52 of #Hercai
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Hi everyone
This is going to be a thread that is different from all the other threads I wrote so far. I thought for a long time if or not to write about it, but in the end I cannot shut up. This is not a happy thread, so if u are not in a good mood, skip this one.
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This is going to be a thread that is different from all the other threads I wrote so far. I thought for a long time if or not to write about it, but in the end I cannot shut up. This is not a happy thread, so if u are not in a good mood, skip this one.
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I can't hide with what kind of disappointment ep. 52 left me on Friday night. It was not only because of the HUGE ReyMir mistake that was done, but also because of many other illogical, incoherent and inconsistent writing mistakes that were committed especially in this+
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I can't hide with what kind of disappointment ep. 52 left me on Friday night. It was not only because of the HUGE ReyMir mistake that was done, but also because of many other illogical, incoherent and inconsistent writing mistakes that were committed especially in this+
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+episode and to which I can’t find a logical answer. I repeatedly asked myself who wrote this and who gave the ok to this. All in all, it’s the first episode ever where I couldn’t see any symbol or any kind of metaphor in the 2.5 hours.
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+episode and to which I can’t find a logical answer. I repeatedly asked myself who wrote this and who gave the ok to this. All in all, it’s the first episode ever where I couldn’t see any symbol or any kind of metaphor in the 2.5 hours.
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Which hasn’t happened in other 51 episodes so far. It’s important for me to say though that IT IS NOT a critic addressed to the actors, the crew or the filming team. They did the best they could with what was given to them.
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Which hasn’t happened in other 51 episodes so far. It’s important for me to say though that IT IS NOT a critic addressed to the actors, the crew or the filming team. They did the best they could with what was given to them.
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The scenes were executed very well, the filming was good too, so kudos to all of them. But what was especially missing in this ep.52 was the depth of the events: so many things are happening but we are jumping from event to event.
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The scenes were executed very well, the filming was good too, so kudos to all of them. But what was especially missing in this ep.52 was the depth of the events: so many things are happening but we are jumping from event to event.
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I mean, F’s birth secret came out in the last episode, but it was treated as if it never happened. R. lost a baby&the trauma was treated as if it never happened. Why are new things/tragic events introduced but not evolved/not given the right time to metabolize them?
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I mean, F’s birth secret came out in the last episode, but it was treated as if it never happened. R. lost a baby&the trauma was treated as if it never happened. Why are new things/tragic events introduced but not evolved/not given the right time to metabolize them?
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FUSUN
The episode opens with Fu. asking herself:
“Why does Azize suddenly help R./the Shadoglu’s in general?”
The episode closes with Fu. having miraculously A’s letter, handing it over to Cihan who becomes crazy after witnessing Ayse/N. at the farm&who kidnaps Azize.
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FUSUN
The episode opens with Fu. asking herself:
“Why does Azize suddenly help R./the Shadoglu’s in general?”
The episode closes with Fu. having miraculously A’s letter, handing it over to Cihan who becomes crazy after witnessing Ayse/N. at the farm&who kidnaps Azize.
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But do you remember how Fusun “refused” the letter when Harun wanted to give it to her saying she already knew what was written inside? Well, then I ask myself two things:
1. When and how did she get the letter?
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But do you remember how Fusun “refused” the letter when Harun wanted to give it to her saying she already knew what was written inside? Well, then I ask myself two things:
1. When and how did she get the letter?
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2. If she knew what was written in the letter and knew what was going on between Nashu/Ayse/Azize, why was she surprised Azize was helping Reyyan?
Where is the logic in this?
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2. If she knew what was written in the letter and knew what was going on between Nashu/Ayse/Azize, why was she surprised Azize was helping Reyyan?
Where is the logic in this?
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There could have been a mini-sequence of 15 sec after Azize came choking Fusun at the Aslanbey mansion in which we see that Fusun has the letter and reads it again/or understands that something must have recently happened between Azize/Nashu.
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There could have been a mini-sequence of 15 sec after Azize came choking Fusun at the Aslanbey mansion in which we see that Fusun has the letter and reads it again/or understands that something must have recently happened between Azize/Nashu.
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I don’t understand why the writers forgot on how to write a good villain. Azize was the perfect villain for S1&S2. But with the huge difference that we (the audience) knew what was going on and therefore were cheering for the good ones to succeed.
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I don’t understand why the writers forgot on how to write a good villain. Azize was the perfect villain for S1&S2. But with the huge difference that we (the audience) knew what was going on and therefore were cheering for the good ones to succeed.
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NASHU
I liked&found it nice how once again we saw a flashback between young Ayse&Nashu&how it’s mingled with the present. But what I did not like was N’s sentence: “Ayse, I loved you so much.” How can he say out loud such a sentence to Azize at this point of the story?
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NASHU
I liked&found it nice how once again we saw a flashback between young Ayse&Nashu&how it’s mingled with the present. But what I did not like was N’s sentence: “Ayse, I loved you so much.” How can he say out loud such a sentence to Azize at this point of the story?
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I don’t doubt how much he loved her, but the woman that is standing in front of him is not Ayse, it’s Azize who TORTURED and ABUSED MENTALLY his/their grandson for 30 years. Who, through her/their grandson, took revenge on his innocent granddaughter.
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I don’t doubt how much he loved her, but the woman that is standing in front of him is not Ayse, it’s Azize who TORTURED and ABUSED MENTALLY his/their grandson for 30 years. Who, through her/their grandson, took revenge on his innocent granddaughter.
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Azize who humiliated his granddaughter multiple times. Who tried to slander her many times. Who tried to make a son the murder his own father. She wanted to burn her own son alive.
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Azize who humiliated his granddaughter multiple times. Who tried to slander her many times. Who tried to make a son the murder his own father. She wanted to burn her own son alive.
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She harmed his/their grandson in any possible way and that guy was the same person Nashu wanted to hug in the last episode. She is the reason he couldn’t be his grandfather and probably never will. She is the reason his son nearly got crazy.
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She harmed his/their grandson in any possible way and that guy was the same person Nashu wanted to hug in the last episode. She is the reason he couldn’t be his grandfather and probably never will. She is the reason his son nearly got crazy.
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She is the one who has HIDDEN for 30y the mother of his grandson and the love of his son. She who now thinks she can make everything undone with bringing that mother back into their lives!? So, how the hell can he turn around and tell her: “I loved you so much?”
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She is the one who has HIDDEN for 30y the mother of his grandson and the love of his son. She who now thinks she can make everything undone with bringing that mother back into their lives!? So, how the hell can he turn around and tell her: “I loved you so much?”
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And I don’t wanna hear, he was carried away in the moment. The sentence at that moment in time was unnecessary and off beat to say the least.
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And I don’t wanna hear, he was carried away in the moment. The sentence at that moment in time was unnecessary and off beat to say the least.
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HARUN-MAHFUZ
The audience was left with Aslan-Harun sharing the secret about Hanife’s letter in episode 44, in which Aslan asked Harun to not tell anything to M..
Then Aslan dies, Mahfuz DOES NOT attend Aslan’s funeral, Harun does not interact in any kind of way with+
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HARUN-MAHFUZ
The audience was left with Aslan-Harun sharing the secret about Hanife’s letter in episode 44, in which Aslan asked Harun to not tell anything to M..
Then Aslan dies, Mahfuz DOES NOT attend Aslan’s funeral, Harun does not interact in any kind of way with+
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Mahfuz, Mahfuz goes to prison. Then time jump, fast forward 8 episodes and puff: we see M. out of the prison and Harun talking to someone on the phone while driving D. to a safe place. The audience must add 1+1 to understand these two seemingly work together again.
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Mahfuz, Mahfuz goes to prison. Then time jump, fast forward 8 episodes and puff: we see M. out of the prison and Harun talking to someone on the phone while driving D. to a safe place. The audience must add 1+1 to understand these two seemingly work together again.
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But is this good reader guidance or better good viewership guidance? I highly doubt that! I don’t know how we got to the point where the audience has to “guess” certain things. And no one can say it's for “suspense effect”, bc it’s just bad writing/bad post editing.
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But is this good reader guidance or better good viewership guidance? I highly doubt that! I don’t know how we got to the point where the audience has to “guess” certain things. And no one can say it's for “suspense effect”, bc it’s just bad writing/bad post editing.
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Also here at least we should see a mini-sequence of 10 seconds in which a guard passes a note to Mahfuz in prison in which Harun contacts him for help. Ama yok! Mahfuz is out of jail, who knows why, and is updated on everything.
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Also here at least we should see a mini-sequence of 10 seconds in which a guard passes a note to Mahfuz in prison in which Harun contacts him for help. Ama yok! Mahfuz is out of jail, who knows why, and is updated on everything.
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Together they were even able to plan a raid to a convoy with two armed guards and Harun alone was able to get D. Vallah!
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Together they were even able to plan a raid to a convoy with two armed guards and Harun alone was able to get D. Vallah!
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AZAT-GONÜL
We have finally Gonül, who, besides Miran, shows to Yaren where the limits are. And what kind of scene do we get? Azat goes off at Gonül as if Yaren is a personified angel who never did any wrong or harm to anyone and who needs protection.
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AZAT-GONÜL
We have finally Gonül, who, besides Miran, shows to Yaren where the limits are. And what kind of scene do we get? Azat goes off at Gonül as if Yaren is a personified angel who never did any wrong or harm to anyone and who needs protection.
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I'm not saying he could not confront G., but he could simply say “please go easy on my sister” but ACKNOWLEDGE what kind of person his sister is and not make it look like G. is the bad girl here.
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I'm not saying he could not confront G., but he could simply say “please go easy on my sister” but ACKNOWLEDGE what kind of person his sister is and not make it look like G. is the bad girl here.
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If they want to build up on AzGön they can do it in many other ways that are not so lame like that scene!
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If they want to build up on AzGön they can do it in many other ways that are not so lame like that scene!
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MAHFUZ-ZEHRA
Mahfuz tells Zehra that Dilsha is alive: Wow, really writers? I don't understand why they put this heavy load once again on Zehra’s shoulders. I could understand the letter that Esma entrusted to her with Hazar’s paternity.
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MAHFUZ-ZEHRA
Mahfuz tells Zehra that Dilsha is alive: Wow, really writers? I don't understand why they put this heavy load once again on Zehra’s shoulders. I could understand the letter that Esma entrusted to her with Hazar’s paternity.
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Hazar was just recovering from the fall and there was no else to give it to in the Shad. mansion. But come on Mah. seriously, spilling the tea like that? And I agreed the way Z. replied to him: “you abandoned even before my child was born, don’t make H. abandon me too.
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Hazar was just recovering from the fall and there was no else to give it to in the Shad. mansion. But come on Mah. seriously, spilling the tea like that? And I agreed the way Z. replied to him: “you abandoned even before my child was born, don’t make H. abandon me too.
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You are putting me into a grave once again.” I seriously don’t see why the writers put Zehra again in that position because the audience will once again hate her and she does not deserve this.
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You are putting me into a grave once again.” I seriously don’t see why the writers put Zehra again in that position because the audience will once again hate her and she does not deserve this.
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REYMIR
Moving on to ReyMir, u all know I was convinced no baby would die. I'm still not ok that they're ok with killing a baby, also for dramatic reason. And if they'll insert a flashback now from Fu. who bribes the doc, it’s just poor writing bc it’s like+
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REYMIR
Moving on to ReyMir, u all know I was convinced no baby would die. I'm still not ok that they're ok with killing a baby, also for dramatic reason. And if they'll insert a flashback now from Fu. who bribes the doc, it’s just poor writing bc it’s like+
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+the scene of Reyyan’s pregnancy revelation. It’s also poor because you made your loyal fandom who follows you since 2 years suffer for nothing. You yourselves get criticism and insults for nothing.
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+the scene of Reyyan’s pregnancy revelation. It’s also poor because you made your loyal fandom who follows you since 2 years suffer for nothing. You yourselves get criticism and insults for nothing.
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If this was the plan, they should have let the audience know right way like they used to do with the villain plans in S1 and S2. We (the audience) always knew Azize’s plan as I said at the beginning.
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If this was the plan, they should have let the audience know right way like they used to do with the villain plans in S1 and S2. We (the audience) always knew Azize’s plan as I said at the beginning.
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I understood at the beginning that M. wanted to protect R. and the second baby from the truth but in this case only Miran, Hazar&Zehra should have known. I understood that Miran wanted to be strong for both of them and carry the grief for both of them, but mothers+
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I understood at the beginning that M. wanted to protect R. and the second baby from the truth but in this case only Miran, Hazar&Zehra should have known. I understood that Miran wanted to be strong for both of them and carry the grief for both of them, but mothers+
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+can feel everything that is related to their children. EVERYTHING. Reyyan begged multiple times because she felt something was wrong. Miran SHOULD have told her when they were home, in a familiar surrounding, holding her tight and telling her what happened.
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+can feel everything that is related to their children. EVERYTHING. Reyyan begged multiple times because she felt something was wrong. Miran SHOULD have told her when they were home, in a familiar surrounding, holding her tight and telling her what happened.
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R. had the right to know. It is her body. We're again at the point of the story where everyone around her knows stuff&she doesn't. Everyone knew at some point that M. was married to G., but only R. was left in the dark to find it out in a humiliating way by G.herself.
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R. had the right to know. It is her body. We're again at the point of the story where everyone around her knows stuff&she doesn't. Everyone knew at some point that M. was married to G., but only R. was left in the dark to find it out in a humiliating way by G.herself.
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Same goes to the adoption part: everyone knew it and who spilled it in the most brutal way was: Yaren. Reyyan, especially Reyyan, deserved to be told by Miran. He swore no more lies, no more hiding. How can Reyyan trust Miran after this?
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Same goes to the adoption part: everyone knew it and who spilled it in the most brutal way was: Yaren. Reyyan, especially Reyyan, deserved to be told by Miran. He swore no more lies, no more hiding. How can Reyyan trust Miran after this?
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She was once again left alone in the hut where she was already abandoned before by Miran. Now we had a deja-vu.
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She was once again left alone in the hut where she was already abandoned before by Miran. Now we had a deja-vu.
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And as if this was not enough on her plate, she can’t process what happened to her but has to worry that her husband becomes a killer. So, we had S1 and S2 in which Reyyan worried that Miran would kill Hazar, now, instead of giving her the right kind of attention+
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And as if this was not enough on her plate, she can’t process what happened to her but has to worry that her husband becomes a killer. So, we had S1 and S2 in which Reyyan worried that Miran would kill Hazar, now, instead of giving her the right kind of attention+
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+with her trauma and loss, she has to worry that Miran does not kill Azize. I could have “accepted” all of this bad writing, if only Miran told Reyyan about the baby, even the storming off, as the hot tempered Miran is hard to control.
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+with her trauma and loss, she has to worry that Miran does not kill Azize. I could have “accepted” all of this bad writing, if only Miran told Reyyan about the baby, even the storming off, as the hot tempered Miran is hard to control.
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But I can’t accept leaving her behind alone with a stranger after making her understand what is going on in the most cruel way and that she lost one of her babies. It’s unfair to Reyyan after everything she went through and I would even say it’s even unfair to+
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But I can’t accept leaving her behind alone with a stranger after making her understand what is going on in the most cruel way and that she lost one of her babies. It’s unfair to Reyyan after everything she went through and I would even say it’s even unfair to+
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+M’s character evolution we saw in S3. But most importantly: how can R. overcome such a trauma? And it’s also unfair to all the women who really went through such a traumatic experience. I don’t understand how a complete women writer team can write such a storyline.
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+M’s character evolution we saw in S3. But most importantly: how can R. overcome such a trauma? And it’s also unfair to all the women who really went through such a traumatic experience. I don’t understand how a complete women writer team can write such a storyline.
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And what I also don’t get: B. said in one of her interviews: we have so much more to tell, now it’s time to tell Reyyan’s story.
Well, I honestly can’t see a lot of this right now. I really don’t know what I should expect from the ReyMir storyline after this…
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And what I also don’t get: B. said in one of her interviews: we have so much more to tell, now it’s time to tell Reyyan’s story.
Well, I honestly can’t see a lot of this right now. I really don’t know what I should expect from the ReyMir storyline after this…
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+all I can say is that having lost this baby/seemingly lost this baby and the way it was once more hidden from the most innocent person of this whole story, broke my heart and it broke some Hercai magic for me.
Thank you for reading💫
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+all I can say is that having lost this baby/seemingly lost this baby and the way it was once more hidden from the most innocent person of this whole story, broke my heart and it broke some Hercai magic for me.
Thank you for reading💫
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