@BradMossEsq They're kind of forced into this position, because 3 U.S.C § 15 establishes that the electors' vote certificates are conclusive, given that the electors were certified by all the governors before the safe-harbor date, December 8.
@BradMossEsq So they have to assert that § 15 is somehow invalid under the Twelfth Amendment.
@BradMossEsq And since they don't have the votes in either house of Congress to get their way, they have to eliminate Congress's role in counting the votes.
@BradMossEsq So they have to construe the Twelfth Amendment as not only invalidating the Electoral Count Act, they also have to construe that amendment as saying that only the Vice President gets to count the votes, which of course it doesn't say (it just says he gets to open the envelopes).
@BradMossEsq It's just nuts but you can see how they got there.
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It's important to remember that a presidential pardon reduces the ability of the recipient to invoke his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination.
If you have been pardoned for federal offenses, you can no longer invoke the possibility you might be prosecuted for those offenses as a basis for refusing to testify, since the pardon bars that possibility.
And the pardon of course cannot bar prosecution for perjury in testimony compelled after the issuance of the pardon.
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