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4 Jan, 13 tweets, 5 min read
Feeling like @nicholsonbaker8’s article started a food fight amongst scientists and science journalists on twitter...
Maybe some readers are confused what the article is about. It is not proof that sars2/covid came from a lab. If @nicholsonbaker8 had proof that the virus was from a lab, he should’ve been on the @who and @thelancet origins investigation teams.
nymag.com/intelligencer/…
Reading many twitter comments in response to the article, it looks like people are outraged by the speculation of what a lab origins scenario could look like, how this could be politicised, and how top virologists are pitted against ‘cranks’ (scientists from adjacent fields).
These above are all not scientific arguments. You’re upset that someone is speculating that lab origins are possible (something the top virologist at WIV speculated herself). You’re upset that this could be political. You’re upset that experts’ opinions could be being questioned.
Is the article a bible? No, it’s not. It’s an opinion piece highlighting the doubts that some scientists and non-scientists have about the origins of sars2/covid. And @nicholsonbaker8 says that his personal take, based on public information, is that it was likely a lab leak.
You can disagree with his opinion/guess, but is this a conspiracy theory on the level of 5G or micro-chipping that needs to be deleted?

I guess a lot of people and scientists still think lab escape is a conspiracy theory.
Talking to people on twitter and growing increasingly confused about what readers expected of this article.

I went back to re-read the article again to see if I had read it completely wrong to have such a different reaction from other people. nymag.com/intelligencer/…
A lot of people say the article is speculative and does not provide a balanced view of both arguments (natural vs lab origins of covid) - but this wasn't part of my expectations as a reader.

The writer repeatedly says this is what he thinks/believes - in other words speculates.
Some say, how could he think this came from the lab, hasn't he considered that chances of natural origin are very high?

People think what they think. They interpret different factors differently, such as the presence of a top SARS lab in the same city of initial covid outbreak.
If you're looking for an A vs B debate style analysis, this really isn't what this article is.

This article is very much a 'I believe in B and I'll tell you why' type of article.

So I don't understand why readers expect the author to put forth a case for A.
Why I personally liked the article- it was straight up hilarious to see how @nicholsonbaker8 described some of the things scientists do. And I also learnt a lot about the Gain of Function debate.

Reading the article didn't move my position on whether Sars2/covid came from a lab.
... which I gather is what people on twitter worry about- that reading this article will convince many people that the virus is from a lab.

I don't know how serious of a concern this is. The public has been told again and again that scientific consensus is natural origins.
My biggest takeaway from the article wasn't that sars2/covid is from a lab. Who knows where covid came from?

My biggest takeaway was that scientists need to talk about the types of research we're doing and find ways to reduce the risk of potential outbreaks from lab pathogens.

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More from @Ayjchan

5 Jan
People are asking for a balanced discussion of natural vs lab covid origins. But I haven't seen such a balanced, scientific article. Closest to balanced for me is David Relman's PNAS opinion that we need to find the origins in the interest of every person.
pnas.org/content/117/47…
What would a balanced origins discussion even look like? A panel or a team debate?

Regular peer review doesn't work for this kind of hot topic. Closed-door meetings among select scientists doesn't work. News orgs approaching their most trusted scientists also doesn't work.
Both of the official investigations into SARS2 origins by the @WHO and @TheLancet have a questionable choice of team membership.

How are we ever going to have a balanced discussion of the origins?

Is it ok to not know where this pandemic came from?
Read 6 tweets
4 Jan
People have asked why the virus is still improving since it's (pre)adapted for human transmission. Pathogens vs hosts are in a constant arms race. SARS2 got good at infecting humans, but now it's a different game - getting around immune response, sometimes within a patient.
This is just super disturbing. "with just 3 mutations... escape from neutralisation by that plasma"
What it means is that each country really needs to step up its game of sequencing SARS2 virus isolates in their cities. Scientists then need to take these sequences and test them to see if they can affect efficacy of antibodies, vaccines, diagnostics. covidcg.org/?tab=global_se…
Read 7 tweets
2 Jan
No sleep.

"Lab leak is the 'most credible' source of the coronavirus outbreak.. Wuhan scientist has turned whistleblower" @Abul_Taher
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9…

"World must investigate all the mounting evidence Covid leaked from a Wuhan lab" @ianbirrell
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9…
"Matthew Pottinger, who is President Donald Trump's respected Deputy National Security Adviser, told politicians from around the world.. latest intelligence points to the virus leaking from the top-secret Wuhan Institute of Virology"
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9…
Iain Duncan Smith, former Tory Party leader who attended the meeting: 'I was told the US have an ex-scientist from the laboratory (WIV) in America at the moment,' he said. 'That was what I heard a few weeks ago.
Read 10 tweets
2 Jan
I feel like suddenly all the major news organizations are interested in the origins of SARS2/covid, or were saving these stories up for the 1-year anniversary of the outbreak. bloomberg.com/news/features/…
It's possibly giving the public whiplash. Up till recently (even today), many people likely still thought the virus had come from a wet market in Wuhan through the illegal wildlife trade.

Suddenly, all these stories of obstruction into the investigation of origins are emerging.
The article provides an interesting window into the new Wuhan 'Battle Against Covid-19 Special Exhibition' and the difficulties reporters faced tracking down and talk to vendors from the Huanan seafood market. But they forgot to clarify that one of their heavily cited experts..
Read 6 tweets
31 Dec 20
Really good story telling by @whippletom and some honestly funny quotes by experts in this @thetimes article about the search for the origins of covid. @shingheizhan and I are very flattered to have been interviewed for this story. thetimes.co.uk/article/how-di…
I like the article & think it gives lab origins fair evaluation:
“Publicly, many extremely senior scientists have opposed this idea. “We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories.. wrote one group in the Lancet..
Privately, some told The Times it was not so absurd.”
Although would have been good to also highlight the history of that Lancet letter if there was space in the article for it- in terms of Daszak writing it, who agreed to co-sign vs who didn’t agree to, and its connection to the NASEM letter emails mentioned in @thetimes article.
Read 6 tweets
31 Dec 20
There is a phenomenal amount of content to unpack in this astounding end-of-2020 @APNews article on the origins of SARS-CoV-2/covid. I spent the day thinking about how to go about a thread about their many findings. apnews.com/article/united…
The single line that stuck with me the most:

“It’s pointless to blame anyone for this disease” - Wuhan Huanan seafood market vendor Jiang

"Jiang avoided telling people he worked at Huanan because of the stigma. He criticized the political tussle between China and the U.S."
I agree on this point. I've spent many months not really wanting to be associated with my own twitter account. Not because there's something unscientific about the things I've tweeted, but because of the stigma associated with going against the consensus on covid origins.
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