The point of talking about the Bosnian genocide or the Holocaust is so that other people, particularly in the (often privileged and safe) West, will come to understand that the things that happened to Jews or Bosniak-Muslims can happen anywhere.
But these acts of violence, rise of the far right, that leads to genocide does not occur in a vacuum. It does not happen suddenly and it does not only happen to certain countries and certain people.
The violence we are seeing in America is not exported from the Balkans or exYugoslavia. It is its very own brand of violence that stems from its own history that is very much rooted in violence and the fact that has continually been ignored in hopes it will go away.
This did not start with Trump, it existed long before. Trump made it more open and harder to ignore but this racism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, nationalism, antisemitism...etc has been in the USA for a very long time. Ignoring it will not make it suddenly go away.
It’s fine to make parallels between far right leaders who’ve incited violence before to Trump. History exists to teach us. But if people in the USA continue to ignore the very American way this violence has been built up and continues to grow, I am afraid it will only get worse.
If people continue to deflect about how “this isn’t what America is” or pretend that this violence only takes place in the Middle East or the Balkans, you will not be prepared to deal with the inevitable rise and power of fascism.
Honestly, prior to the genocide in Bosnia there were so many of us who believed truly that this couldn’t happen to us, neighbours couldn’t turn against us, they wouldn’t kill us...but they did.
Own the fact many have allowed this fascism to thrive or ignore it at your peril.
I also have to say that it is offensive to compare what happened in the Balkans to the scenes yesterday at the Capitol. The far right is the far right anywhere, sure. But ultimately what happened in Bosnia was genocide and comparisons to storming the Capitol is in very poor taste
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Thanks. What is your evidence that a few weeks/months of missing school will have horrific consequences on children? What is your evidence that in 15 years time, kids that missed a couple months of school socialisation (they still have online learning) will not be fine?
Anyway, I did not have drive or motivation when I started school after the war or even when I moved to the US. It was just school. I came. I showed up. I learned. I did my homework. The same way millions of kids do each day. It’s about the fact that kids still learn and persevere
The frustrating argument about “well what about all these other issues” is that all the other issues they mention (familial issues, poverty, lack of social safety nets) will continue to exist and kids will still be impacted them even if in school during covid. But they wont die.
Hello @ the entire United Kingdom, I missed my early years of education due to war and genocide. I had to be stuck inside and wasn’t able to play. I caught up! When schools did open, I absolutely kicked ass at school and so did most of my classmates. Your kids will be fine.
I’m also one of the most sociable people out there. I also moved to the US and missed some school there and didn’t speak a word of English when I started and still....I was fine! Straight A student, college, career....etc. Your kids will be fine!
Your kids and their teachers and your families deserve to be safe above everything. Yes, it is tough being inside on children and parents and yes, everyone wants kids in schools. But take care of them now and we can return to normal soon.
My perspective on the “healing and reconciliation” with Trump supporters as a Bosnian genocide survivor:
For healing and reconciliation to take place, you must have first admittance by the offending party and above all that party must be the one to ask for forgiveness.
As humans, we are taught that forgiveness and the ability to forgive is a virtue. But we are rarely, if ever taught, how to actually take that step, admit our wrongdoing, and ask for forgiveness. Most people are, people that have deeply fallen to propaganda even more so.
I am of the strong belief that we can and should work with people who have differing opinions than ours, political ones and personal ones. I also know that believing “Jews will replace us” and “Immigration are all rapists” is not a matter of political difference.
Immigrants have a complex relationship with the United States, while I think it’s easy for people to laugh how “corny” some messages may be I also don’t think many understand the sheer pressure of assimilation in the USA that makes immigrants work so hard to prove themselves.
Some empathy would be good in understanding why many immigrants laud themselves as “proud Americans” and why they work so hard to prove that. It’s because at every turn they are told they have to and that nothing they do is good enough.
Patience is something I think more radical people tend to lack. The road to disconnect from American exceptionalism is immensely long. It used to bother me too, but it’s a deeply ingrained message that takes a lot of work to unearth.
I respect Biden’s stance on Bosnia in the 90s, truly. But here is also where I disagree with many of my fellow Bosnians. I can’t be a single issue citizen. Even if he manages to save Bosnia from ruin, I still shudder at his other domestic and foreign policies.
The ongoing disagreement with me and my Bosnian friends isn’t that Biden wasn’t a good advocate for Bosnia. It’s that it’s not the 90s anymore, America is in turmoil, Bosnian-Americans exist and will be impacted by a lack of progressive policies too. Dayton will still exist.
And yes, I am hopeful that I will be wrong. But Biden is a fairly conservative Democrat and while I hope the left does push him on both domestic and foreign policies, his stance on many things of importance to Americans and beyond is worrying.
This is a genuine question for my Bosnian friends and colleagues; do you sincerely believe that Biden will change anything in the Balkans? Other than some strongly worded letters when Dodik acts up, I just am not optimistic at all. He supports the current structure afaik.
My disagreements with Biden’s policies aside, he was strong on Bosnia but that was in the ‘90s. He was also the VP, which gave him a modicum of influence and nothing really happened. He is a supporter of the Dayton, so while I understand Bosnian enthusiasm I don’t share it.
Don’t get me wrong, I would love to be proven wrong. Bosnia is a tiny country that is absolutely reliant on its allies, particularly the big powers for help. That’s just the reality. I’m not against US/European involvement because right now it’s just simply a necessity.