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11 Jan, 6 tweets, 2 min read
theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-c… OK. The good thing is: he admits Trump should be impeached. That's good. Image
And good on him for apologizing to the Never Trumpers. Image
But he needs to work on this part. Image
Dreher has been counting on the Leopards Eating Peoples Faces Party to save him from Drag Queen Story Hour. But when leopard eats face, all he's got is: if only it hadn't been leopards & eating & faces, those saying the party would come to that would have nothing to work with!
I shouldn't pick today - the day he's come around - to come correct. But part of the price of admitting that the Never Trumpers were right is admitting that the left - who said the same - were also right.
The point is: maybe the left has been reasonable. If they were right the whole time, maybe they were also reasonable the whole time - maybe not about everything, yet about a few things it didn't occur to him they might be right about, so he has never thought to check.

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13 Jan
The drama of 'lawful evil cleric joins party of chaotic neutral thieves for profit' has played out more than once this admin. (Jeff Sessions.) Such moral tragedy provokes audiences to ask: how to be true to law, in a crisis, yet without abandoning evil? nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/…
OK, joking aside, do I really think Pence is evil? Like, EVIL-evil? He and I don't just have policy disagreements? Let's ask, instead: why does it make perfect sense that Jeff Sessions and Mike Pence would both get in bed with Trump, and both find the experience so debasing?
The short answer is that Pence and Sessions are not that different from Trump in SOME ways, though they are his opposite in OTHERS. (This is not a truth caught by Gary Gygax's moral compass.)
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11 Jan
So I get off the news to go read about heresies - no kidding! - and, just before I go, this - THIS! Image
So Belle and I are like, is Pelagianism top 10 heresy material? Y/N?

Me: hey, Siri, what are the top-10 Christian heresies?
Siri: I found this on the web.

news.fordham.edu/inside-fordham…
My pics were, off the top of my head:

Lutheranism (call it Protestantism)
Arianism
Gnosticism
Deism
Pantheism (Spinozism)
Donatism
Catharism (Albigensianism)
Pelagianism
Universalism

And then I kind of got stumped.
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11 Jan
McCarthy thinks Trump deserves to be impeached. Image
But also that Trump shouldn't get what he deserves. It's so little! a few days! But the same consideration should cut the other way: it's so little. Just a few days. Why not do the right thing? Image
Because the R base wants Congress NOT to do the right thing, is why. But is that a good reason not to do the right thing, on a basic point of principle? McCarthy is basically saying: our base won't tolerate their reps upholding the constitution. Well, what should leaders do?
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11 Jan
In other words: two dueling narratives.
1) Trump understandably tried to stop what much evidence suggests was the theft of the election; and heroic constitutional conservatives like Cruz and Hawley stood by him, although, tragically, patriotic protests went over the line. 1/
2) Trump is a mentally ill seditionist; accusations of election theft are baseless. No reason to suppose the election was other than fair and free, hence cynical attempts to cast doubt, for profit, are, at best, para-fascist LARPing for profit. The base: lots of rubes & thugs. 2/
Does Twitter have an obligation to be agnostic between 1 & 2, merely because 2) is the line one major party, the D's, is taking, but the other party, the R's, even though its leaders know 2) is true, needs to save face by feigning 1) has merit? 2) is too insulting to the base! 3/
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11 Jan
If you want to break up Big Tech, propose an even-handed, muscular response to monopoly danger. Dust off anti-trust, roll up your sleeves and get to work. Great! But don't just whine about how you can't get away with being an awful troll, but the Ayatollahs are on Twitter. 1/ Image
Both can be true:
1) Twitter should not get to decide who speaks, in the whole world.
2) If you conduct yourself with bare, civic decency, respecting baseline norms and ideals all citizens of an advanced liberal democracy should share, Twitter currently won't ban you! 2/
Conservatives look at the low bar of 2 and shriek, 'there's no way we can clear THAT, we're conservatives! If we're politicians, the base will have our hides for that!' That is ALSO a problem, in addition to the real problem that Twitter shouldn't police the speech world. 3/
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8 Jan
I've got to read this and think about it. But here's my first negative thought. To what degree is this bothsidesism valid? Not very, I think. 1/ tabletmag.com/sections/news/… Image
The comparison is between BLM protests - and riots - and Stop The Steal. But these aren't comparable. Why not? BLM was and is a reasonable civil rights protest movement, addressing actual existing problems of policing. Stop the Steal is an insane, delusional conspiracy theory. 2/
Now, normally you need to be even-handed about these things, in a formal way. 'Everyone has a right to their opinion'. 'Crazy people have the same free speech rights as everyone else'. 'You don't convince people by dismissing them as crazy.' All that's true. 3/
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