Thread by @jholbo1

So I get off the news to go read about heresies - no kidding! - and, just before I go, this - THIS!

So Belle and I are like, is Pelagianism top 10 heresy material? Y/N?

Me: hey, Siri, what are the top-10 Christian heresies?
Siri: I found this on the web.

news.fordham.edu/inside-fordham…

My pics were, off the top of my head:

Lutheranism (call it Protestantism)
Arianism
Gnosticism
Deism
Pantheism (Spinozism)
Donatism
Catharism (Albigensianism)
Pelagianism
Universalism

And then I kind of got stumped.

It’s interesting that Protestantism is no longer thought of as a heresy. It’s kind of like: R.E.M. no longer seems like an indie band.

It’s also interesting that he lists the Lollards. The Lollards are to Protestantism as Pylon is to R.E.M. To early to hit it big.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pylon_(ba…

It’s also interesting that the Fordham guy lists conciliarism.

Belle: what is that?
Me: I know this one! Imagine if you have two Popes, and the conciliarists are like, we got this! Next thing you know: THREE Popes, and one is a pirate. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope_…

Also, it was the start of the inability of the church to keep count of how many Johns. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John…

Also, very strong ‘are YOU still here?’ vibe from one of the foremost conciliarists. You’d think this would be the guy who would leave you with NO Pope (he only likes his little dog) not three.

But Hawley? Guy’s LARPed his last LARP. I hope. Now, back to heresy. (I’m doing this thing on heresy and the intellectual roots of modern philosophy.)