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100,000,000 Years Ago: on Earth, the Cretaceous (in conventional reality). In the afterlife portion of U7, the North Kaio’s planet already exists at this time. The Kaioshin (Supreme Kai) is assisted by four Kaio (non-Supreme Kai), who monitor the NSEW areas of U7. #HistoryofEver Image
(The planet anachronistically pictured here in its smaller, post-Beerus form, but whaddaya expect?)
North Kaio’s planet can be reached via the million kilometer Snake Way that stretches over Hell. Has anyone ever crossed it? The oni who drives Goku there thinks that King Yama (Yemma) is the only one to have made the trip, and that this was within the last 100 million years. ImageImageImage
DBZ ep.14 filler says King Yama crossed the road and met Princess Snake a mere 500 years ago. Not quite a direct contradiction, but in that case it makes you wonder the significance of the “100 million years” figure. Is that just Snake Way’s age? Image
The Daizenshuu 7 timeline’s entry on 100,000,000 Years Ago says “Kaio’s planet is confirmed to exist”, apparently based on the oni’s line and the assumption that he wouldn’t say “in the last 100 million years” if Snake Way and Kaio’s planet haven’t been around at least that long. Image
Early fan translations of the daizenshuu timeline mistranslated this entry as “the earliest Kaioshin are thought to exist” (mistaking 界王星/Kaio’s planet for 界王神/Kaioshin/Supreme Kai), a mistake you still see around to this very day. dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ba… Image
(Speaking of mistranslation, even the Funi subtitles messed up by having the oni say a billion years rather than 100 million, although this was corrected in later releases) Image
At 100 million years, this is far enough back to be the very first entry in Daizenshuu 7’s timeline, and therefore the earliest thing mentioned pre-DBS. But DBS ep.5 unseats it by having Beerus claim to have lived for “hundreds of millions of years”. Image
If Beerus is that old, then presumably the Kaioshin as a group are too (although Beerus’ career has extended through several different Kaioshin generations), and so too are the angels and Zeno. Presumably.
Tomorrow: a handsome young Kaioshin. Image

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Nov 19
It’s already November 20th in Japan, which means Dragon Ball has officially reached its 40th anniversary. In case you weren’t paying attention and/or born at the time, here are some highlights from the first 40 years of DB history… #DragonBall40th Image
1984: gag manga superstar Akira Toriyama concludes megahit Dr. Slump, and in November debuts its follow-up in Weekly Jump. This Journey to the West-inspired kung-fu adventure kicks off as inventor girl Bulma recruits monkey boy Goku to track down the titular dragon balls. Image
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1985: after last year’s tail-end teaser, things begin in earnest. The initial “quest for the dragon balls” arc wraps up in May, and Toriyama shifts gears to a tournament arc (always a fan favorite in his Dr. Slump days) with the lecherous Roshi and Goku’s new cueball-esque BFF. Image
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Aug 31, 2023
According to Bunshun Online, Dragon Room head honcho Akio Iyoku has stepped down from Shueisha and established his own company, Capsule Corporation Tokyo. Supposedly he wants Shueisha to keep DB’s manga publishing rights but for CC Tokyo to handle DB games/anime/etc.
As you might imagine, Shueisha is reluctant to part with DB to any extent, and negotiations are still ongoing. According to this article, anyway. Shueisha has apparently confirmed that Iyoku is stepping down, but not confirmed any of the particulars so far.
Bunshun Online reached out to Toriyama and asked if he would be working with Iyoku in future, but Toriyama said he couldn’t comment publicly, only through Shueisha. He also said the company name “Capsule Corporation Tokyo” was Iyoku’s idea, not his own.
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Jul 26, 2021
Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai ep.41: Pissed Myst’s great and the logistics of Dai’s sword are interesting, while the castle’s just there to be knocked down. But it knocks down well. 4/5 #DragonQuest #ep41
What was the name of this episode again?
Even under torture, Popp’s still Popp
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Jul 25, 2021
Rewatching the DBS panel, there’s a few things I want to note about the subtitles. They’re fine overall but there’s a few things I think are oversimplified or left out. Going through roughly in order of importance…
When discussing the artwork for New Character 1 and 2, in Japanese Hayashida says how it’s Toriyama’s original artwork, unlike the Piccolo/Pan/etc images that have been developed into full-fledged anime designs. The subtitles instead say it was made before movie production began ImageImageImage
Now, it might indeed be true that Toriyama would’ve made the initial artwork before movie production began, but that’s not really what Hayashida is talking about. He’s contrasting this image with the earlier ones shown of Piccolo and co, which weren’t Toriyama’s original artwork
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Jul 22, 2021
May 15th, Age 767: after three days of rest, Goku recovers from his heart disease (a week earlier than Trunks expected). The situation may be dire, but Goku knows the perfect place where Vegeta and Trunks can finally spend some quality father/son time together... #HistoryofEver
Speaking of quality time, Goku and Chi Chi get a nice moment together in the anime, sharing a kiss far too hot to actually show on screen. Or include in the canon, for that matter.
Alright, so…in the original manga, Goku and Chi Chi are never shown kissing. In DBZ ep.147 they share an offscreen kiss (they later made a figurine based on this). In the DBS anime and manga, Goku claims never to have kissed his wife. Draw your own conclusions.
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Jul 21, 2021
May 12th, Age 767 (Bad Future Edition): at 10 AM on an island 9km southwest of South City, 17 and 18 begin their assault. Vegeta and co are mowed down, leaving Gohan sole survivor. Even the dragon balls are no use, since Pilaf and co wasted them on a dumb wish. #HistoryofEver
May 12th, Age 767 (Better Future Edition): 19 and 20 appear on schedule, but Our Heroes are ready. Well, Goku gets a bit sick, but Vegeta covers for him. While 19 and 20 don’t last long, 17 and 18 make short work of the gang. And that’s just the beginning of their problems…
Yes, it’s another busy day. May 12th has the honor of being one of the few specific dates mentioned in the series, although the year 767 comes from the Daizenshuu 7 timeline. If there’s any number pun significance to this date, I haven’t been able to find it.
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