[thread]
On "they"
There must always be a "they"
Why?
On "they"
There must always be a "they"
Why?
https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1349000783631691777
So I am going to focus on three elements
1) On Darren/Andrew Lilico's words
2) On The Guardian article
3) On the Graphic of UK vaccination progress
4) A final conclusion on point 1 on "they"
1) On Darren/Andrew Lilico's words
2) On The Guardian article
3) On the Graphic of UK vaccination progress
4) A final conclusion on point 1 on "they"
1) On Darren/Andrew Lilico's words
To Andrew and Darren's words
Darren "they said would happen"
On Andrew
"these anti-Brexiteer commentators"
There must always be a "they"
Oh yes a reminder on media bias
To Andrew and Darren's words
Darren "they said would happen"
On Andrew
"these anti-Brexiteer commentators"
There must always be a "they"
Oh yes a reminder on media bias
We brexited ages ago
Get with the new world
We are a country united now
Why do you seek to stoke division?
You won
Can you not "suck up" the win to quote a brexit trope?
Get with the new world
We are a country united now
Why do you seek to stoke division?
You won
Can you not "suck up" the win to quote a brexit trope?
2) On The Guardian article
The contributors to that article
Martin McKee of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
Anniek de Ruijter of Amsterdam Law School
Mark Flear of Queens University, Belfast.
theguardian.com/world/2020/mar…
The contributors to that article
Martin McKee of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
Anniek de Ruijter of Amsterdam Law School
Mark Flear of Queens University, Belfast.
theguardian.com/world/2020/mar…
Now for Andrew Lilico
Why are you demonising these science or legal experts as "anti-brexiteer commentators"
I thought the UK was supposed to have moved on from brexit
Why are you demonising these science or legal experts as "anti-brexiteer commentators"
I thought the UK was supposed to have moved on from brexit
I thought Gavin Williamson told us Britain had better medical experts.
These experts are warning what could happen
What *might* happen
Just like these ones
Warning of the risks to cancer sufferers
cancerresearchuk.org/sites/default/…
What *might* happen
Just like these ones
Warning of the risks to cancer sufferers
cancerresearchuk.org/sites/default/…
Since part of your anger is I believe related to the publication that the article is in I will try to not use any material from the Guardian
Since clearly you have an issue with that newspaper
Weird you pick on the Guardian
Since clearly you have an issue with that newspaper
Weird you pick on the Guardian
From article:
"The UK will leave the European Medicines Agency (EMA), the body responsible for the scientific evaluation, supervision and safety monitoring of medicines, at the end of the transition period on 30 December. "
"The UK will leave the European Medicines Agency (EMA), the body responsible for the scientific evaluation, supervision and safety monitoring of medicines, at the end of the transition period on 30 December. "
From article:
"This means it will no longer be part of the EU’s regulatory regime, which allows for “accelerated assessment” of products developed by drugs companies during a pandemic."
"This means it will no longer be part of the EU’s regulatory regime, which allows for “accelerated assessment” of products developed by drugs companies during a pandemic."
From article:
"The UK has already withdrawn from the EU’s emergency bulk-buying mechanism for vaccines and medicines, under which member states strike collective agreements with pharmaceutical companies, which speeds up their access to the latest products during a crisis."
"The UK has already withdrawn from the EU’s emergency bulk-buying mechanism for vaccines and medicines, under which member states strike collective agreements with pharmaceutical companies, which speeds up their access to the latest products during a crisis."
From article:
“For all these reasons ... the UK is likely to have to join the queue for access with other countries outside the EU, and to pay more than it would otherwise as an EU member state."
“For all these reasons ... the UK is likely to have to join the queue for access with other countries outside the EU, and to pay more than it would otherwise as an EU member state."
From article:
“Looking further ahead, this problem will not be limited to emergencies and the UK can expect slower and more limited access to medicines, especially those for rare conditions or those used to treat children, where the market is small.”
“Looking further ahead, this problem will not be limited to emergencies and the UK can expect slower and more limited access to medicines, especially those for rare conditions or those used to treat children, where the market is small.”
So yes
The UK has withdrawn from the EMA
Brexit means brexit after all
London lost 900 jobs
money.cnn.com/2017/11/20/new…
The UK has withdrawn from the EMA
Brexit means brexit after all
London lost 900 jobs
money.cnn.com/2017/11/20/new…
AND ALSO
"Netherlands Foreign Investment Agency (NFIA) reporting some 100 companies with operations in the UK have opened offices in the country to be nearer to the EMA. It reckons 3,500 jobs will be created as a result of the EMA move."
pharmaphorum.com/news/ema-count…
"Netherlands Foreign Investment Agency (NFIA) reporting some 100 companies with operations in the UK have opened offices in the country to be nearer to the EMA. It reckons 3,500 jobs will be created as a result of the EMA move."
pharmaphorum.com/news/ema-count…
We have left the EMA regulatory regime
Yay
What a positive of brexit
The UK was a leading nation in improving the EMA for our friends and neighbours
To work for the common good
Now
It sits isolated in London
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi…
Yay
What a positive of brexit
The UK was a leading nation in improving the EMA for our friends and neighbours
To work for the common good
Now
It sits isolated in London
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi…
Any medicines made in Britain that we want to sell to our neighbours in the EU
Will need to be approved by the EMA with clinical trials carried out across any number of countries
kingsfund.org.uk/sites/default/…
Will need to be approved by the EMA with clinical trials carried out across any number of countries
kingsfund.org.uk/sites/default/…
Now you can compare the review time of the EMA and the FDA
2011 and 2015
FDA approved 170 new drugs vs EMA 144
FDA median review time 306 days vs EMA 383 days.
wepclinical.com/fda-approving-….
2011 and 2015
FDA approved 170 new drugs vs EMA 144
FDA median review time 306 days vs EMA 383 days.
wepclinical.com/fda-approving-….
This is something that the EMA is looking to improve upon
pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analy…
pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analy…
There are of course a range of reasons why specific drugs may move more quickly in terms of speed of approval and time to market
drugpricinglab.org/wp-content/upl…
drugpricinglab.org/wp-content/upl…
So on the time it took the UK to approve
The vaccine
Thank you to those experts in the MRHA for their efforts in doing so
THeir rolling reviews across the Oxford/AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna candidates was wonderful
The vaccine
Thank you to those experts in the MRHA for their efforts in doing so
THeir rolling reviews across the Oxford/AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna candidates was wonderful
For Moderna
Submitted 27/10/2020 (rolling review)
investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/…
Approved 8/1/2021
gov.uk/government/new…
Submitted 27/10/2020 (rolling review)
investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/…
Approved 8/1/2021
gov.uk/government/new…
For Oxford/AstraZeneca
23/12/2020 submitted
30/12/2020 approved
23/12/2020 submitted
30/12/2020 approved
If I was seeing my country wrought by the crisis of coronavirus
I would also want my agency to do all it could do to expedite the approvals process for vaccine candidates following their successful trials
I would also want my agency to do all it could do to expedite the approvals process for vaccine candidates following their successful trials
The article below tries to understand why the EMA was slower
3 main one's
Administrative processes
Access to the data not all at same time
EU nation's that take brunt of assessment work
euronews.com/2021/01/08/why…
3 main one's
Administrative processes
Access to the data not all at same time
EU nation's that take brunt of assessment work
euronews.com/2021/01/08/why…
See also from that article
Australia
Australia
So the MRHA is chosing how to prioritise its efficiency improvements post brexit
It could already do so prior to brexit
Prior to brexit it could influence 27 other nation's to the benefit of that marketplace and those health patients needing medicines
raps.org/news-and-artic…
It could already do so prior to brexit
Prior to brexit it could influence 27 other nation's to the benefit of that marketplace and those health patients needing medicines
raps.org/news-and-artic…
And a reminder
We will mirror the EMA
"This would see the UK mirroring decisions made by the European Medicines Agency, while also laying out a process should companies wish to file for a separate approval in the UK."
pharmaphorum.com/news/mhra-publ…
We will mirror the EMA
"This would see the UK mirroring decisions made by the European Medicines Agency, while also laying out a process should companies wish to file for a separate approval in the UK."
pharmaphorum.com/news/mhra-publ…
And of course there is the attempts to claim that the speedy approval of covid vaccines is a "benefit" of brexit
https://twitter.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1334068994345754625
But Jacob has form on lies
See : food price rises
See : food price rises
https://mobile.twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1024895987876343808
In other news
A Conservative Party wanted to put a flag on the vaccine
That of Germany and Turkey
trtworld.com/life/turkish-g…
A Conservative Party wanted to put a flag on the vaccine
That of Germany and Turkey
trtworld.com/life/turkish-g…
A reminder
The UK is not the only country scrambling to appropriate the success of scientists in vaccine research
For party political benefit
bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
The UK is not the only country scrambling to appropriate the success of scientists in vaccine research
For party political benefit
bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
No one tell the "Union Unit" about the border in the Irish Sea
https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1184843920578093057
Oh and a reminder on Turkey
Still at least we have a 50 pence piece
So far
We are 13 days in
Here's the Democratic Unionist Party
We are 13 days in
Here's the Democratic Unionist Party
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1349335104028553218
Back to that Guardian article Andrew Lilico really didn't like
“For all these reasons ... the UK is likely to have to join the queue for access with other countries outside the EU, and to pay more than it would otherwise as an EU member state."
“For all these reasons ... the UK is likely to have to join the queue for access with other countries outside the EU, and to pay more than it would otherwise as an EU member state."
A Belgian minister tweeted this
Oxford/AstraZeneca: €1.78 (£1.61).
Johnson & Johnson: $8.50 (£6.30).
Sanofi/GSK: €7.56.
Pfizer/BioNTech: €12.
CureVac: €10.
Moderna: $18.
theguardian.com/world/2020/dec…
Oxford/AstraZeneca: €1.78 (£1.61).
Johnson & Johnson: $8.50 (£6.30).
Sanofi/GSK: €7.56.
Pfizer/BioNTech: €12.
CureVac: €10.
Moderna: $18.
theguardian.com/world/2020/dec…
EU price:
Pfizer/BioNTech: $15
(negotiated for a total of 300 million doses, is slightly lower than the $19.50 per shot the United States agreed to pay)
reuters.com/article/uk-hea…
Pfizer/BioNTech: $15
(negotiated for a total of 300 million doses, is slightly lower than the $19.50 per shot the United States agreed to pay)
reuters.com/article/uk-hea…
I have not yet seen a journalist or politician being open about the pricing of the various batches or orders of vaccine's they have placed (or received) to allow an easy EU vs USA vs UK comparison
I would remind you
In the UK - drug prices are something that in any trade deal with America will be on the table
This is true whomever is the US President
In the UK - drug prices are something that in any trade deal with America will be on the table
This is true whomever is the US President
Channel 4 Dispatches
In an interview with the programme, one of Trump’s former top trade negotiators Stephen Vaughn said he doesn’t understand what Boris Johnson means when he says the “NHS is not on the table”
channel4.com/press/news/tru…
In an interview with the programme, one of Trump’s former top trade negotiators Stephen Vaughn said he doesn’t understand what Boris Johnson means when he says the “NHS is not on the table”
channel4.com/press/news/tru…
from that Guardian article also
“Looking further ahead, this problem will not be limited to emergencies and the UK can expect slower and more limited access to medicines, especially those for rare conditions or those used to treat children, where the market is small.”
“Looking further ahead, this problem will not be limited to emergencies and the UK can expect slower and more limited access to medicines, especially those for rare conditions or those used to treat children, where the market is small.”
I suppose Professor Mike Barnes is an "anti-Brexiteer commentator"
Prof Mike Barnes, who led the fight with the Home Office to get Bedrolite prescribed for Alfie, said it was "not like swapping one type of aspirin for another".
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan…
Prof Mike Barnes, who led the fight with the Home Office to get Bedrolite prescribed for Alfie, said it was "not like swapping one type of aspirin for another".
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan…
So our progress
1 & 2 are done
Now onto 3
1) On Darren/Andrew Lilico's words
2) On The Guardian article
3) On the Graphic of UK vaccination progress
4) A final conclusion on point 1 on "they"
1 & 2 are done
Now onto 3
1) On Darren/Andrew Lilico's words
2) On The Guardian article
3) On the Graphic of UK vaccination progress
4) A final conclusion on point 1 on "they"
Now point 3
Now here's a rub
Every single person wants vaccine roll out to be as rapid as possible
But
You need to be honest
1) about timeframes
2) about supply
3) about distribution
4) about the administering
That is all
Be honest
Now here's a rub
Every single person wants vaccine roll out to be as rapid as possible
But
You need to be honest
1) about timeframes
2) about supply
3) about distribution
4) about the administering
That is all
Be honest
And a reminder
It is not a race with other nations
The race is against coronavirus
It's incidence locally, nationally and internationally
To minimise the risk of mutations
And of further unnecessary death and fallout from covid
It is not a race with other nations
The race is against coronavirus
It's incidence locally, nationally and internationally
To minimise the risk of mutations
And of further unnecessary death and fallout from covid
So over the course of this week
Conservative MP's have been busy sharing several images in relation to vaccine progress
First the chart below
Conservative MP's have been busy sharing several images in relation to vaccine progress
First the chart below
The per million picked so that it places the UK in prime position
As oppose to
As oppose to
Now I say again
Vaccine progress is great
Vaccine discovery, approval, production, supply and administering is all great
The Conservative Party then switched to map format
Vaccine progress is great
Vaccine discovery, approval, production, supply and administering is all great
The Conservative Party then switched to map format
And from today
How dare you as a nation ask what our vaccine stocks are
A reminder of the Guardian headline choice of wording
"Brexit means coronavirus vaccine will be slower to reach the UK"
Why can the government not be open about supply?
How dare you as a nation ask what our vaccine stocks are
A reminder of the Guardian headline choice of wording
"Brexit means coronavirus vaccine will be slower to reach the UK"
Why can the government not be open about supply?
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1349320553476349960
A reminder
You need to be honest
1) about timeframes
2) about supply
3) about distribution
4) about the administering
That is all
Be honest
You need to be honest
1) about timeframes
2) about supply
3) about distribution
4) about the administering
That is all
Be honest
So to wrap up
From Andrew Lilico
yes prediction can be a difficult business
Forecasters can get it right or wrong
But how they learn from both is crucial
I miss the days of "we don't need experts"
fullfact.org/economy/how-ac…
From Andrew Lilico
yes prediction can be a difficult business
Forecasters can get it right or wrong
But how they learn from both is crucial
I miss the days of "we don't need experts"
fullfact.org/economy/how-ac…
The catch of course is that since 23rd June 2016
Institutions and government have been attempting to work to mitigate and address those harms of brexit so that they *were not* as bad as the forecasts
Institutions and government have been attempting to work to mitigate and address those harms of brexit so that they *were not* as bad as the forecasts
Yes those very people Andrew demonised
Will be part of organisations that worked to minimise the fallout from brexit
And if they succeed at that (which they did)
They then get shouted at by Andrew because all he has is to rubbish their forecasts and their work
Will be part of organisations that worked to minimise the fallout from brexit
And if they succeed at that (which they did)
They then get shouted at by Andrew because all he has is to rubbish their forecasts and their work
He cannot even say thank you
To those who worked to mitigate the impacts of brexit
To those who worked to mitigate the impacts of brexit
And to round up from Darren Grimes, Andrew Lilico & Andrew Neil
There must always be a "they"
Why?
Why do people seek to stoke division?
See also:
There must always be a "they"
Why?
Why do people seek to stoke division?
See also:
https://twitter.com/CCHQPress/status/1349340189743845378
To end up on a thread with Paul McCartney and an introduction in song form
https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1341706376394010625
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