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18 Jan, 10 tweets, 3 min read
So this turned out pretty great in my opinion. I wanna do it again. Thanks to everyone who participated and those who showed up to listen. Thank you to my brilliant co-moderator @betsythemuffin.

Let me do a quick debrief.
First let me apologize again to those who expressed interest but were not able to get into Clubhouse. What I learned is that they have intentionally made it quite difficult to bring more people onto the platform. To be fair, it is a closed beta. But this was pretty disappointing.
I think at the maximum we probably had 30 or so people in the room. Not huge. I think it was good that the room stayed small enough that there was plenty of space for anyone who wanted to talk. I can imagine that not being true as the audience grows.
I think we did a decent job rotating people on and off the stage. We tried to keep it at 5 max, including the two moderators. People were gracious about stepping down from the stage, which helped a lot. But I did get the sense that some folks had more to say if they had stayed.
We spent a solid hour and 45 minutes engaged in direct discussion. We took a break in the middle for about 7 minutes. There was appetite for more discussion, but also some fatigue. Hard to find a balance. I’m glad I ended it when I did.
We’re we able to get at some deeper technical discussion? I think so. It takes a while to ramp up. We had to feel out where people were at. The first half we did a lot of context setting. What is redux? Are we all thinking of it similarly? The second half got much more practical.
The topic I chose, “was the redux pattern a mistake”, was intentionally provocative. I wanted to get at strong technical opinions rather than just sharing info. I think that happened, and I was happy with it. But we also navigated towards the nuance rather than staying simple.
To give an example, at one point I asked the room directly “how would you do this thing in redux?” We had some discussion about it, but there was no clear consensus. That was interesting to me because it validates my bias that we don’t spend enough time talking about this stuff.
I have some thoughts on how I might make tweaks next time. If folks who participated have thoughts on what you would want to see, please reach out and let me know. This was a good start.
I’m now connected to most of the folks who participated. Michelle, Kris, and John, if you’re here on Twitter please let me know so we can connect.

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18 Jan
I want to get something off my chest. I’ve been spending today doing house chores while listening to technical videos and podcasts. After my Clubhouse experiment yesterday, I’m thinking critically about how we expect developers to learn and grow. And... it’s a mess y’all.
The quality of information out there is all over the place. The time commitment of doing all of this watching/listening is significant. There is so much content that is seeking people’s attention. And there’s no good way to know if what you’re gonna get is any good.
I’m not about to hop out here and put anybody on blast. People put a lot of effort into creating content. (I know because I started looking into doing it and I’m way too lazy for all that). The problem is there is no good way for people to navigate this marketplace.
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17 Jan
Does anybody want to have technical conversations on Clubhouse? Not podcast style. I mean real in-depth discussion about experiences building real things. There's not enough of that, and there's a real opportunity with the clubhouse format.
Sounds like there is interest in technical discussion. Here are some completely self-serving topics I wanna talk about.
- When is it time to abandon your ORM?
- Was the redux pattern a mistake?
- Kubernetes? But y tho?
That's how Clubhouse is set up. You join a room centered around a particular topic. Most people are in the "audience" to listen. The people on the "stage" can discuss. People can move back and forth between audience and stage.
Read 17 tweets
17 Jan
The most striking thing about this video for me is when they are negotiating with the cops. "We're following orders from your boss (Trump)."

White men in law enforcement literally don't know what side they should be on. Those who haven't already decided that is.
A lot of white people are susceptible to being misinformed and deceived in this moment. Many of them have spent their entire lives talking about an inevitable future where they have to defend their country from domestic enemies. It's part of their mythos.
The 2A patriot myth dovetails nicely with the Christian myths around the end times. The antichrist will appear as a world leader that deceives the masses. That's what they said about Obama. And of course these world leaders need to be overthrown by the truly faithful.
Read 5 tweets
3 Jan
I really don’t wanna have an opinion on “bean dad”. Bu I don’t think I can avoid it, so here we go. A few thoughts.

1) I didn’t believe the story as written. The guy is a writer and clearly wanted it to seem dramatic and entertaining. There are probably many embellishments.
2) A lot of people are honing in on the fact that the kid didn’t eat for 6 plus hours. I think there is a big difference between kids that are food insecure going hungry and someone’s who’s well taken care of not eating for a while.

And again, I believe the story was embellished
3) What strikes me is not that there’s a problem with using a can opener as a “teachable moment” (I will never forgive Obama for saddling us with this). My problem is with the way this man, and many men, decide what “learning” has to look like.
Read 12 tweets
2 Jan
Y’all know I’ve struggled with the whole “learn to code” movement. We’ve talked about how a lot of it has become scammy if not downright predatory. But I still maintain that it can be worth it to invest significant money to achieve a lucrative and sustainable career.
I’m trying to be careful how I talk about upward mobility these days. I’m rapidly progressing toward that age where I really understand what it’s like for people younger than me. And I can see that the world has changed a lot. But it’s worth discussing. The need is still there.
Speaking only about software tech careers, because that’s what I know. Our industry still has massive amounts of growth potential. I’ve talked about how we’ve actually failed to keep up with demand for new software. Getting into tech is still both desirable and achievable IMO.
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22 Dec 20
I was gonna make a pithy comment about American's should be burning shit down. Then I remembered that there's absolutely no excuse for property damage no matter the circumstance. Everybody go home and write stern letters to your congressperson. I'm sure it'll work this time.
Because this is not really the time for subtly, let me be clear. The same indoctrination that makes white Americans support and justify the oppression of PoC is the same shit that is making you ineffectual in stopping your own oppression in this moment.
You let them take away all of your tools to fight back. Because they told you it might be used to help us, and you were afraid of that. Now you're sitting at home with your $600 while people call you lazy and tell you to just accept the death of your community as normal. Welcome.
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