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More and more investors in Shenzhen and other hot property markets are getting into trouble for skirting rules designed to enforce the policy that "homes are for living, not speculating". The extent of the problem shows just how speculative the...

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Chinese property markets have become, and have been for many years. It also suggests how useless it is to expect that new rules punishing speculating can change the nature of property investment in China. Once a market has been so long driven by speculative buying from...
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investors whose only reason for buying is the self-reinforcing expectation of more rising prices, only a sharp drop in prices can drive speculators out.

This sharp reversal won't necessarily happen soon: the forces that drive speculative buying can go on for a very long...
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time. Remember that before they finally cracked, Japanese real estate prices in the late 1980s far exceeded Chinese levels today relative to GDP. Of course, as Japan also reminds us, the longer it goes on, the more painful the impact of the price collapse on the economy.

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It's great to hear that Lu Di's band, Hardcore Raver, will contribute to the upcoming Gang of Four Tribute Album. Less than three month's before he died, Andy Gill called me to say that Gang of Four were coming to Beijing. When he arrived we...

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had a long dinner together while the rest of his band went partying.

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We've been having this discussion for years with no resolution, and I would argue that resolution isn't possible without a major – and as yet unlikely – transformation of the growth model. Property development is the engine of growth in China, and...

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Only rapidly rising debt can keep this game...
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Good response by @GagnonMacro to a piece arguing that the Swiss central bank does not manipulate its currency.

In the report itself the authors argue that Switzerland runs a large and persistent current account surplus because "Switzerland is a country that saves more...
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than what can be invested domestically. As a result, these investments are made abroad, which gives rise to the current account surplus. This is no evidence for an undervalued currency or unfair competitive policies." They then go on to explain why the Swiss save a lot.
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This claim is disingenuous because it seems to imply that Swiss surpluses are somehow different from those of other countries. In fact every country that runs a current account surplus is, by definition, a country "that saves more than what can be invested domestically".
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25 Jan
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As China's population ages, its dependency ratio is rapidly deteriorating, from 70% today to 56% by 2060. During this period the US and global dependency ratios will decline from 65% for both to 60% for the US and 62% for the world.

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I think there could also be another reason: they may not want to make a bad situation in the medium term worse. If we were to assume that Beijing is successful in sharply increasing expected births over the next 10-15 years, this would only mean that the dependency...
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This is pretty worrying. The justification for open capital markets is that, left to their own devices, investors will mostly seek out ways to shift capital from less productive to more productive uses and, in so doing, will end up raising global...

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productivity and wages. There would be some speculative capital in this case, but it would be relatively limited and, because it would increase liquidity and help disseminate information quickly, it would serve mainly to grease the wheels of those fundamental investors...
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who allocate capital to its most economically efficient use.

It is pretty hard to watch these huge flows into and out of developing countries, and the speed with which they shift, and conclude that this is in fact what is happening. Instead the unfettered flow of capital...
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I think this is absolutely correct. In China even the best and most objective rating agency would have to struggle with the...
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