The word used by JM in this clip has very colorist/discriminatory undertones when used against another person. You can call your pet the word all you want, but the meaning changes for people. Two of the screenshots YOU attached even point out these implications. (1/3)
It is not the literal equivalent of the N word, but that doesn’t mean it is not often used with racist/colorist implications. Poor wording in my tweet does not debunk the fact that this word has a strong and current history of colorism. (2/3)
The official Naver English Dictionary online still cites Oxford and YBM with the following meanings for the word when used against a person. (3/3)
Source: bit.ly/3qRiMKW
Overall: Not debunked ❌
Your thread skipped #1, #3, and #4 so I will assume that you could not debunk nor excuse them.
You can find those here:
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You missed the part entirely where I said that Suga stereotyped Native American names which he did. You can see for yourself at 0:11. (1/2)
No one but RM can explain with 100% accuracy his reason for the cry he let out at the end except for himself. Despite many fans upset about this incident and others actively sending emails to BigHit about it, no one in the group spoke out. (2/2)
Overall: Not debunked ❌
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It’s very strange to want to recall a time when RM made some of the most ignorant comments of his life while doing CA, especially considering how many people were hurt by his words and actions. It seems he was fond of this time, considering he highlighted it in a post.
There are a multitude of horrible things he has said and done, and I actually skipped some of these since you all are convinced he apologized, but not once has he properly said, “I’m sorry for saying/doing X, Y, and Z.”
It actually disgusts me that you see nothing wrong in what they said here. JK, JM, and V dressed up in loose clothes with old hats and said “Don’t we look like beggars?”
They held a “cute beggar” themed photoshoot in Thailand. Why do you think that is?
The vlive clip you attached in your reply never mentions his inappropriate use of the word “ratchet.” You cannot use that video as a blanket apology for everything he did wrong if he did not specifically mention what he did wrong. Being vague hurt him more.
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I already discussed BigHit’s intervention in the matter with the Jim Jones sample below. Suga was 100% aware that the sample was in his song, and yet he ignorantly left it alone without understanding its meaning, its historical context, etc. What a terrible producer.
You can actually see him listening to the sample during song production in this video. There’s no excuse. It’s tragic that they put the blame on another producer instead of him owning up to his ignorance.
Going to skip and come back to the Murakami issue at another time, that one is a pain to discuss.
The context was very clear in this conversation: differences between being a celebrity vs. a regular person. Still, JN’s tone and poor choice of words were shallow. Let me try to explain to you all again in an alternative format:
Please provide me with the original transcription of this interaction between V and OP in video before you attempt to debunk this. I would gladly correct this post if it is true.
Thread of PROBLEMATIC things 8TS has NOT apologized for. [Updated]
1. All/most members of 8TS singing the N word; no apologies were made for this incident from any member.
R/\/\ vaguely referenced his use of the N word in the past, but the other members have yet to comment.
2. J!m!n used the Korean equivalent of the N word to describe how Jvng00k looks when tanned. The other clips in this video show native Koreans defining this word & emphasizing how it’s derogatory/negative.