"(Victoria's anti-conversion therapy bill), which could mean up to a decade in jail or fines of almost $10,000 for anyone found trying to suppress or change another person’s sexuality or gender identity, passed by 27-9 votes late on Thursday." 1/
theaustralian.com.au/nation/politic… https://twitter.com/JaclynSymes/status/1357292434598682627?s
Not a surprise, given the numbers. More significant, I think, was hearing several Australian MPs literate in the Tavistock court ruling, risks to minors in "affirmative" gender clinics, questions of consent to gender transition, & the emergence of regretful "detransitioners".
In the debate, some MPs, notably Liberal Democrat David Limbrick, tried to tease out the logic & possible consequences of this use of coercive state power. What does it mean to "change or suppress" sexuality or gender identity? He worried aloud about real-world scenarios. https://spectator.com.au/2021/01/its-shameful-being-gay-was-
Victoria's Attorney-General Jaclyn Symes, given carriage of the bill, had some clear answers but often seemed unable to come to grips with obvious questions, as if the activist mantra that "LGBT people are not broken" should have been enough to sweep away any doubt or curiosity.
This was odd because she stressed the bill had been two years in preparation, & she had the key departmental official with her in the chamber to supply ammunition against sceptical cross-examination. She had the numbers to push the bill through, yet seemed on-edge & impatient.
Ms Symes was asked how the law might interact with medicalised gender change for minors -- a central issue for critics of these "LGBTQ" conversion therapy bans worldwide -- but she dismissed this with the bromide that the bill had nothing to do with current medical practice. https://twitter.com/Bernard_Lane/status/1357060036204265475?
Before Thursday, I'd imagined very few MPs had been following the global gender clinic debate, & I was struck by detailed, informed & thoughtful speeches from MPs I'd been unaware of, eg Bev McArthur of the Liberal Party.
facebook.com/BevMcArthurMP/… https://fb.watch/3sT0JL_lr8/
Covering gender clinics, you get used to the sounds of silence: people with expertise afraid to talk because activists (many not trans themselves) will make their lives hell. It can delude you into thinking hardly anyone grasps how contentious the gender identity project is. https://twitter.com/ScottNewgent
Thursday's parliamentary debate is a reminder that after years of well-intentioned media coverage framing trans as a straightforward human rights imperative, many people have been thinking for themselves -- but biding their time before discussing any risks or conflicts in public.
December's High Court's ruling against the Tavistock clinic has supercharged a freer, more factual debate, & behind the scenes it is no doubt forcing a host of institutions & professions to think much more carefully about what they are doing or enabling.
bbc.com/news/uk-englan…
Maybe this helps explain the tone & content of the concerns raised by Victorian psychiatrists @ranzcp about the govt's conversion therapy bill, & also the last-minute discovery of civil libertarian risks by the peak legal professional body @yourLIV.

Jan 28, 2021, letter to Victorian govt from the Law Institut
The govt bill galvanised criticism from a remarkable range of groups including psychiatrists, @amavictoria, major religious orgs, radical feminists & the new @LGBAlliance_Aus. With a history of boosting youth gender clinics, @theage gave prominent coverage to the bill's critics. https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/doctors-fear-con
If, as critics fear, the intent of the bill is to deepen the legal foundations of Queer Theory's self-declared "gender identity" & the "affirmative" medicalised model of youth gender clinics, the marketing stressed the politically safer idea of banning "gay conversion therapy". https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/trans-therapy-law-ma
But the image of prison for unethical practices that very few people would imagine to be current -- the govt has given no credible evidence of a problem today involving health professionals -- may have forced many people to do a deep dive into self-ID gender & puberty blockers. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/trans-therapy-law-ma
In Thursday's debate, MPs spoke of the sheer volume of concern & feedback flowing through their electoral offices. The govt won the vote, as expected, but has it also alerted more people in the mainstream to the gender clinic debate? Now, that could be an awkward conversion.
Footnote: letters to the editor from The Australian today suggest that informed scepticism about the conversion therapy campaign is spreading. Some good comments also generated by coverage in @TheAge. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/letters/when-did
Here's one thoughtful comment on The Age article which reported concerns by psychiatrists & physicians. (There are quite a few comments showing confusion among readers used to this rather woke Melbourne media outlet's history of being oblivious to precisely such concerns.) https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/doctors-fear-con
Australian Doctor @australiandr, which claims to be the country's "leading medical publication" & which would reach many GPs puzzled by the surge in under-18 gender dysphoria, has also covered the criticism of the bill by the Victorian branch of @ranzcp. https://www.ausdoc.com.au/news/gay-conversion-therapy-ban-co
The article quotes @ranzcp Vic president Kerryn Rubin saying: “Ultimately, (the govt bill) could lead to (practitioners) either withdrawing from this vulnerable (LGBT) population or change the way they work to
offer a less-effective evidence-based treatment.”
Here are some medical practitioners' comments on the article ... https://www.ausdoc.com.au/news/gay-conversion-therapy-ban-co
Yet the news report of Australia's taxpayer-funded media outlet @abcnews was silent on the fact that critics of the bill included psychiatric & medical bodies, the peak legal professional body, feminists & LGB people. Readers were only told of right-wing & religious concern. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-05/victorias-gay-convers

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This is significant criticism from the main medical body @amavictoria & college of psychiatry @RANZCP, which calls out the conflation of sexual orientation & gender identity that is the hallmark of activist-driven "conversion therapy" bans globally.
This concern raised by the college's Victorian branch is also interesting because the RANZCP's own policy arguably involves a more general, Queer Theory-style conflation of sexual orientation & gender identity.
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In Australia, the court decided it was in the "best interests" of a 12 year-old to begin puberty blockers to prevent "life-long damaging masculinisation". Born a boy, the child identifies as female.
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In Australia, public media outlet @abcnews has showcased children's hospital gender medicine for years. This treatment was found to be "experimental" in Keira Bell's court challenge to the UK Tavistock clinic. The ruling has global significance, but not on the ABC website.
Even before the Tavistock ruling, the UK had adopted a more cautious approach to this medicalisation. Finland & Sweden have edged away from the "gender affirming" medical model used in Oz. The pioneering Dutch clinic has expressed concern about a shift in patient profile.
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An American appeals court has ruled that "conversion therapy" bans offend the First Amendment right to free speech in the constitution. Here's a news report with the basic facts -- and significant omissions. This case looks important. THREAD

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The two therapists who challenged the "conversion therapy" bans say they offer counselling: just talking. The Florida authorities lawmakers argue this does serious psychological harm to minors. Image
But these restrictive "ordinances" give a green light to one form of counselling. This "carveout" is a hallmark of the new-wave "LGBT conversion therapy" bans being pushed by "gender identity" activists around the world. Image
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Canada's Bill C-6 would criminalise "conversion therapy". This is part of an international project pitched as an urgent rescue of "LGBTQ people" from right-wing religious bigots bent on forcibly changing their identity.
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If people in the mainstream hear about this new wave of bans on "gay conversion therapy", their reaction is revulsion, then puzzlement: "Surely all that horrible electric shock stuff is a thing of the past? Nobody's even arguing about gay marriage any more."
What's new -- the heart of the controversy about these laws -- is "gender identity", not sexual orientation. It ties in to the global debate about the exponential surge in teenagers seeking to transition with hormonal drugs & surgery to an "inner gender" at odds with biology. Sex researcher James Cantor on the "gender identity&quo
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