Thread by @VirpiFlyg

Experience Exchange Brazil-Sweden - webinar with Anders Tegnell on 22 April 2020:

Learning to live with the virus, following the plans that have been ready for years & Stockholm having 20-30% immunity after successfully flattening the curve.

(in English)

'It's an honor for the Swedish Consulate General to host this webinar with the Embassy of Sweden in Brazil.' The participants include the state government, state parliament, city hall government, secretary for international relations + cities & parliaments from outside São Paolo.

(0:48) 'The purpose of this webinar is to promote an intense exchange between Sweden and Brazil on COVID-19.'

Anders Tegnell (10:12): 'What we believe in Sweden is that this is a disease is here to stay. ... It's going to be with us forever. And that's also very much the background to what we're doing in Sweden.'

Anders Tegnell (10:39): 'We are not really thinking that we ever can get rid of it in Sweden. We need to find a way to live together with it.'

Anders Tegnell on economics (10:58): 'And even if that's not any area we have a mandate at the Public Health Agency, it's still an important area because economic circumstances will affect public health sooner or later.'

Angers Tegnell (10:22): 'What we're really trying to achieve is a low level of transmission, as low level as possible.' He talks about flattening the curve. 'This is something we've discussed many years in different pandemics and what we also discussed during the swine flu.'

Tegnell (12:40): We've been able to flatten the curve. We have had at least 20% of the ICU beds in Sweden free at any given time.

He doesn't say that care home residents were never sent to hospitals and how the Stockholm field hospital in never had patients due to lack of staff.

(22:45) Anders Tegnell says Sweden has 2.000 ICU beds (April 22) with an increase of more than 50% since the start of the pandemic.

That sounds like surprisingly big number. I thought it was about 500 in 2019, so you'd have to add a bit more than 50% to make it 2.000.

(24:07) Anders Tegnell on immunity in Stockholm in April: 'I believe the level is somewhere between 20-30 percent.'

(31.54) Tegnell talks about care home deaths:
- We've seen it before that it's very difficult to keep diseases out of those places.

Interesting, as the Swedish Public Health Agency has since stated they had no idea of how susceptible the care homes are.

(33.45) Prof. Pedro Hallal compares results of different antibody surveys from around the world.

He doesn't compare them to Sweden but the numbers are quite far away from Tegnell's estimate of 20-30% being immune in Stockholm.

Ambassador Johanna Brismar Skoog explains why Sweden doesn't close schools (1:03:40):

- Based on the scientific evidence the Swedish authorities look at, children are not big contributors to the spread. They hardly get it at all themselves and they're not spreading it on.

The second video conference and Q&A in May:

https://twitter.com/VirpiFlyg/status/1353353740535926785