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A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*

(it's amazing there are enough people to include in a list like this 🤷‍♂️)

Sunetra Gupta

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths…

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Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Nic Lewis

~0.12% of Sweden has now died of COVID-19:
ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-da…
covid19.who.int

judithcurry.com/2020/06/28/the… Image
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Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Michael Levitt

archive.is/3IpJF

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4/K

Re: "under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Jay Bhattarcharya
Eran Bendavid

~0.14% of the USA has now died of COVID-19:
ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-da…
covid19.who.int/region/amro/co…

archive.is/QLmJt#selectio… Image
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Re: "under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Daniel Erickson
Artin Massihi

~0.11% of California and ~0.23% of New York (state) have died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

aier.org/article/open-u… Image
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Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

John Ioannidis

(at least 3 times)
7/K

Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Toby Young

~0.17% of the population has now died of COVID-19:
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths…

archive.is/FKgQ6
archive.is/ZmbP1#selectio…
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rs…

archive.is/NBcxM#selectio… Image
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Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Vinay Prasad
(@VPrasadMDMPH)

9/K

Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

James Todaro
(@JamesTodaroMD)




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Re: "list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Johan Giesecke

[Sweden: part 2/K
UK: 7/K]

web.archive.org/web/2021020804…



13:54 - 15:02 :
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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Carl Heneghan

archive.is/nxTW8


>0.12% of Spain died of COVID-19
covid19.who.int/region/euro/co…

archive.is/KCVZ1

archive.is/G3J5X Image
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As further context:

1) Herd immunity prevents one from getting near 100% of the population infected, making the claims of those on this thread even worse.

2) COVID-19 deaths really are COVID-19 deaths:


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Re: "those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Avik Roy
(@Avik)

>0.17% of Los Angeles (LA) County died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map



web.archive.org/web/2021020905… Image
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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Stephen Miller
(of @aier, who is behind the Great Barrington Declaration @gbdeclaration; see part 5/K)

>0.10% of the regions circled in red died of COVID-19
archive.is/Wfbaf

aier.org/article/the-us… Image
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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Justin Hart
(of the @Rational_Ground blog)

≥0.15% of the UK, Belgium, Czechia, Slovenia, Italy, etc., died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…



Image
17/K

Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Alex Berenson
(@AlexBerenson)

[what Dr. Fauci actually said:
5:50 - 7:02 of ]

>0.13% of the USA died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…

18/K

Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Michael Yeadon
(via John Ioannidis in part 6K)

>0.15% of the UK died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…
covid19.who.int/region/euro/co…

archive.is/E9ihn#selectio…

from 16:35 of Image
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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Swiss Policy Research
Gina Loudon of "Just the News"
(@RealDrGina, @JustTheNews)

≥0.15% of the UK, Belgium, etc., died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…



web.archive.org/web/2020070611… Image
20/K

Re: "require more people be infected than actually exist"

Clare Craig
@ClareCraigPath

(she deletes her tweets: archive.is/sWs5l#selectio…)



≥0.15% of the UK died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…

google.com/search?rlz=1C1…

web.archive.org/web/2021021017… Image
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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Scott Atlas

>0.22% of New York state and >0.32% of New York City died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid…



web.archive.org/web/2021010608… Image
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So that's at least 23 people/groups who greatly under-estimated COVID-19's fatality rate:

- 5 associated with Stanford Univer.
(Levitt, Bhattacharya, Bendavid, Ioannidis, Atlas)

- 3 associated with the Great Barrington Declaration
(Gupta, Bhattacharya, AIER in 5/K + 15/K)
23/K

Re: "so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Karol Sikora
(@ProfKarolSikora)

[via Sunetra Gupta from 1/K]

England: >1.8 in 1000 died of COVID-19
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths…

24/K

Of the the 24 people/groups listed above, 6 were advisors to the vaccine denialist group PANDA:

Gupta, Levitt, Bhattacharya, Yeadon, Atlas, Sikora




archive.is/d0LRP#selectio…


archive.is/JT4ll Image
25/K

To wrap up:

~0.5% - ~2% of infected people died in the regions mentioned in the above list. That's way more dangerous than seasonal flu. And that's around an order of magnitude more than was claimed by those in this thread.



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Re: "require more people be infected than actually exist"

Freddie Sayers
Tom Chivers (@TomChivers)

>0.14% of the USA died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

>128,000 UK COVID-19 deaths
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths



Image
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Re: "require more people be infected than actually exist"

Barbara Ferrer
(relying on work co-authored by part 4/K's Bhattacharya + Bendavid: jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/…)

>0.19% of L. A. County died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

from 36:33 :
28/K

Re: "those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist*"

Thomas Massie

>1.4 people per 1000 died of COVID-19 in the USA
coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality



30/K

Re: "who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Levan Djaparidze
[medrxiv.org/content/10.110…]

>0.27% of Bueno Aires, Argentina died of COVID-19
buenosaires.gob.ar/coronavirus/da…

Image
31/K

Re: "so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Abir Ballan
(of PANDA [@PanData19]; via Carl Heneghan in part 11/K)

>0.12% of Spain died of COVID-19



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Re: "Clare Craig
@ClareCraigPath
(she deletes her tweets: archive.is/sWs5l#selectio…)"

found it:


h/t to @_johnbye for explaining how to find archived tweets using the Wayback Machine / web archive:

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Feb 23
71/J

I recently got a copy of Dr. Judith Curry's book without buying it myself.

Looking over it confirmed to me that it's largely misinformation.

I'll illustrate that by assessing its claims on COVID-19.



"11.3.1 COVID-19"

amazon.com/Climate-Uncert…
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To reiterate: Curry draws parallels between COVID-19 + climate change.

But some of the sources she cites suggest an ideologically convenient narrative misinformed her.

That becomes clearer when assessing her claims.




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No mention of the misinformation she + other contrarians promoted, and which conflicted with knowledge advances by experts.

(8/J - 12/J, 32J - 36/J, 44/J, 45/J, 63/J, etc.)








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Dr. Judith Curry recommends people read at least the 45-page preview of her new book.

I did.

It's bad enough I wouldn't recommend buying the book.
It's largely contrarian conspiracist misinformation.




amazon.com/Climate-Uncert…
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royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rs…
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Jefferson + Heneghan don't like the papers.

Makes sense they wouldn't given their track record, especially Jefferson on the Cochrane mask review he led.







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Mar 13, 2023
69/E

A reminder, since there's a resurgence in Musk + right-wing politicians trying to score political points by saying they want Fauci prosecuted:

Musk's dislike of Fauci drove him to post an easily debunked lie (57/E, 56/, 41/)


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Still no apology from Musk for falsely smearing Grady based on untrue things he was told, or that he made up.

"Elon Musk calls British diver in Thai cave rescue 'pedo' in baseless attack"
theguardian.com/technology/201…



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Another good example of the willful ignorance + baseless paranoia underlying Musk's lab leak conspiracism and his criticisms of Fauci.




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Dec 12, 2022
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Some illustrations of the pseudoskepticism that overtakes many crypto / tech bros, using the example of Elon Musk's COVID-19 claims.

"My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci"


onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.11… Image
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No, neither chloroquine nor hydroxychloroquine worked for SARS-CoV-2.

Fortunately, Fauci recommended neither in March 2020.

9:12 - 14:41 :



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Jun 8, 2022
1/B

Thread on a myth Jay Bhattacharya (@DrJBhattacharya) continues to peddle to undermine confidence in public health agencies and to suit his policy agenda.

The myth may undermine responses to future public health emergencies.




stanfordreview.org/the-review-int…
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2/B

Some background:

The infection fatality rate (IFR) states the proportion of *SARS-CoV-2-infected* people who die of the disease COVID-19.

The case fatality rate (CFR) states the proportion of *reported cases* who die of COVID-19.

institutefordiseasemodeling.github.io/nCoV-public/an…
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3/B

Reporting systems are not perfect, so they sometimes miss infected people. That makes reported cases less than total infections, and thus CFR is higher than IFR.

The WHO was open about this since the early stages of the pandemic:

March 17, 2020:
web.archive.org/web/2020102205…
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