Thread by @AlisonBlunt

1. Quoting Orland Bishop & Eisenstein in an extraordinary extended recorded conversation soon after the start of 2020 charleseisenstein.org/program/conver…
Orland, "I would frame it this way: there's an assumption in that: That the liberation is to be part of this system."

2. "And that's not true. The liberation from that history is to transform the system into a more beautiful world. It is not to get some rite of passage into a position of privilege. That sacrifice was not for that. It was not for compensation."

3. "It's for liberation of the future from this world."
"...that's dying. So that the future may live. And more abundance can come into the world from the act of choosing that future over this current threshold of reality."

4. "Most people think it's, it's saying, or the oppressive part of the culture is saying, you know, ‘Forgive those in the past, and then just join us.’ There is no joining us."
"There's nothing here to join."

5. Eisenstein, "Yeah. One way I like to put it is that the victory of feminism or black liberation, etc, etc, is not that all of these people now get an equal chance of being at the helm of the world-destroying machine."

6. Orland Bishop, "Right. Exactly."
"It's a different kind of liberation."
"And, again, it comes with creation. It comes with creativity. For something that is already born in the soul that will become present in consciousness. And we wouldn't model the world from the past."

7. "We model the world from an inspiration of something as well as from the future. These are new impulses that our consciousness is still getting used to that the future can have an effect on our present reality, just as much as the past can."
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