Spengler very "content dense" writer of the 20th cent. hence the continued interest even after his "academic unpersoning for crimethink"
One controversial claim was Spain, England, Germany as major movers of West via world historical ideas (Ultramontanism, Capitalism, Socialism)
Part of a Gothic / Nordicist / Germanicist take on history as he felt the Med had been overplayed, and wanted to be a contrarian toward his obvious influence Nietzsche
But does this one hold up?
1/ Scandinavia, basically invented Unitarian Church-State - is important no?
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2/ the Franks, no impact here? Really? Everything from feudal warlordism, to proto-Soviet peasant communism, to much of the high cultural output of north-of-the-Alps Europe? Sheeiit.
3/ the Italians, both parochial communalists and progenitors of high culture others copied
All of these are of world historical import IMO
But maybe context is needed? In Spengler's day German scholarship was very Classicist, glories of Hellenes and Romans emphasized
He would have seemed of less importance without standing out vs. predecessors FN and Goethe
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If America was a Socialist country since 1933 ( Stalin-admirer FDR New Deal as American NatSoc program ), how does Capitalist mythology persist to our day
Note that public screwl historical ed. was scaled back in many parts of US by the time Boomers were kids - could be related
And I think because of the Cold War experience being so central to the identity of so many Boomers, that this perspective of "Capitalist triumph over Marxist expansion" will last as long as they do. If it was formative part of identity, unlikely they get rid of it late in life
In this case I'm not even attacking the Boomers, merely noting that there are reasons why we can't have an honest assessment of the last century
Even when GenX and MilGen get Socialism they think they want, it will not be recognized as almost (or over) a century old here
Spengler emphasized the conflict between the English and German worldviews, the final showdown between Capitalism and "Prussian Socialism" - of course he thought latter would win
Had an interesting take on Marxism: "capitalism for the working man" -- an Anglo Trojan Horse
But Marxism became the outward philosophy of Socialism everywhere in the 20th cent.,
And while the "Prussian Socialist" model of the managerial state came to be adopted everywhere, either nominally Capitalist or Socialist,
Ideal of "ethical Socialism" did not appear anywhere
Perhaps it was not foreseen how useful the "Prussian" model would be to the Anglo world in managing the ongoing crises of their own economic system, and also underestimated was the corrosive effect on ethics that the two World Wars would have on the West as a whole
Reading travel lit over time it seems that the last time things were relatively "normal" is 1970s or so - this genre gives good intel on avg ppl at different periods. Though '70s was an age of dark cynicism, feel is Western Civ still at peak (versus now w. obvious troubles)
The travelers seem to interact with people not yet fully in ideology or technology induced hazes. America seems to retain a certain regional character, versus now when the global era has made the world a smaller and more homogenized place, & the pre-digital era is slower/calmer
Blue Highways, the author does an epic road trip across America to all of its different regions and sees a full cross-section of its types. Of all the people that are encountered, not many match the ideology-ghettoized humanity of today, except, what a surprise, college kids
My reason for bringing up the American economy and Soviet comparison
Is that T r v m p years got me thinking: Zogfuehrer was only a modest reformer at best; did only a fraction of the things needed to save the failing Union (his own commitments in part prevented it)
And yet...
Even this small reform was deemed unacceptable to the Establishment and in need of immediate reversal
Instantly I start to think of Gorbachev - his reforms, meaning to open the system, led instead to its collapse
Elites here I think fear a similar breakdown with *any* reforms
I guess that is always the peril with an ossified gerontocracy, even letting the reigns slip a bit could be catastrophic
And America began its walk toward a totalitarian closed society so long ago, they're so near the final victory, they cannot risk letting it all smash now
1/ It's in a dire condition since 2008, and though it's technically still a market economy, it has increasingly taken on the character of a Soviet-style, centrally planned, command economy
If you mentioned this even 2 years ago, obvious objection ...
...Would be "muh bread lines - we haven't got them yet - surely we have not reached such a condition"
But since 2020 we also have those. It's proven that in panic situations we are already facing the proverbial "wartime shortages in Oceania"
2/ System remains on life support..
...Just after the 2008 crash, none other than George Soros himself said publicly that "capital is on life support from here on out" (paraphrasing)
*To this day*, it is kept on life support via an additional $120 billion / month of QE
It's not unprecedented to see a situation like America
Going from a very high point (as our mid-20C position) to a point of degradation and penury (you are here) in under a century
Good comparison is post-Suleiman the Magnificent Ottoman Empire imo ...
Why? I compared America to Oriental-style state years ago. Yankee Unitarian is not terribly far from Islam at this point and continues to converge
But that other case had similar high cultural glory followed by quick fall and incompetent leadership culminating in disaster
The similarities don't end there. The Ottoman system was as mercenary as the American. It's civil bureaucracy and military, many were Europeans. It even had a small and very rich "middleman minority" of financiers, diplomats etc - the Phanariot Greeks, who with time ...