This thread captures the emerging “Reichstag Fire” theory that Pelosi purposefully rejected security so that the Capitol could be attacked. Unsure how her support for a 9/11 Commission-style probe fits into this
Honestly, this feels inevitable. If an event seems to benefit one party politically, a conspiracy theory develops that the party secretly planned the event. Same fever dreams happened after Oklahoma City bombing, and more famously after 9/11.
Conspiracy theories also work better if they seem familiar. Pelosi giving some sort of “stand down” order to let a riot happen — shades of the “did Clinton issue a stand-down order and let Benghazi happen.” It’s a cozy conspiracy blanket.
If anyone reads this thread and asks “why am I against asking questions” — I’m not, I was pointing out that Pelosi endorses a commission to look into this, which makes the “what did she know and when did she know it?” stuff sound more like a diversion than a real question.
Skip ahead to 2022, where there are demands for a “Citizen’s Commission” investigating the attacks, to prove once and for all that Democrats let this riot happen to... uh... impeach Trump again and fail to convict him? I think that’s the upshot?
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I tackled this in the Trailer - Biden being president changes the calculations, but a lot of people lost their shirts after seeing "re-open" rallies at state capitols last year and thinking "this is the New Tea Party." (Including Trump!)
The original "Dean Scream" was Neil Kinnock shouting "we're all right!" a bunch of times at a rally before the 1992 UK election.
No, I don't know why you follow me, either.
It was considered a huge gaffe (Labour lost an election they were expecting to win) for Kinnock to be super excited.
I can never decide whether Kinnock was a great orator (the speech Biden plagiarized was very good tbf) or just Welsh. You want gravitas? Welsh accent, buddy.
The mismatch between what you can remove a president over (nothing, apparently) and what you can remove a mayor or governor or whatever is so vast. Rod Blagojevich was impeached and barred from holding any office again by his own party!
This really it's partisan; it's a function of a presidential system, where voters elect a quasi-sovereign who, in addition to governing, represents the nation like a king or queen. Same with Bill Clinton - a governor in his position would have quit so his LG could take over.
We all hate the "West Wing" now, but there is a very true plot point in an early season where a focus group finds that people would want their governor to resign if he concealed an illness... but, it turns out they're forgiving if a president does it.
It’s not *surprising* but it’s interesting to watch how the Georgia wins transformed the parties’ negotiating power and style. Just like seven weeks ago an emerging CW was that Biden would have to sacrifice Neera Tanden but maybe Susan Collins would let him confirm Blinkin
Rs spent two months assuming they’d have Senate, dictating limits for Biden. Then they lost the Senate but the expectations for what “working across the aisle” means haven’t fully reset. So you get takes like “Biden plan is DOA if moderate Rs balk.” But... it isn’t!
The missing piece here is that people are *also* used to a Dem House caucus where Pelosi needs to mollify Blue Dogs, and the House Dem majority is narrower than 2009. But it’s far more liberal, after bad cycles and maps for Dems removed all their conservatives.
Even if you want to take Turley seriously — doctors do not recommend this — the Trump campaign had actually used “peaceful” sarcastically for months. It reacted to media descriptions of “peaceful” BLM protests by handing out “PEACEFUL PROTEST” signs
The joke was that the media insisted BLM rallies were “peaceful” while impugning Trump voters.
There *were* some dumb looking TV broadcasts where hosts struggled to explain that a day of civil disobedience was followed by a night of riots. But this got shorthanded by Trump et al to: The media says BLM and Antifa are “peaceful” because they let them get away with stuff.
Leave aside the riots, silly as that sounds. Had some big city mayor been caught on tape pressuring officials to forge election results and keep him in office, he’d have resigned or been removed within a week.
Why does impeachment exist? What is the crime that a dial-a-quote academic like Turkey thinks a president can be removed for?
The premise of all this is that if the winner of the 2016 election for Vice President becomes president for several days, it will irrevocably divide the country. Really?