@tommy_pane Here is the deal T.
It gives me no pleasure to keep at you at a fundamental level. I have tried to engage you many ways.
But at root, you ignore so much in order to maintain your equilibrium. & in fact you have to. I get it.
These are not policy issues we are debating.
@tommy_pane Your insane ability to ask the wrong next question is, at an analytical level, a curiosity.
And etc.
This one about pedophiles is a perfect example... Follow the thread.
We have gone from your self equivalence w the Q people, and that superior level of crazy...worked through
@tommy_pane 3/ your various attempts to maintain some weird position, which remains occluded. Now, having been blocked at the level of "you don't really care, why not"... which is a stupid line for you to take, in general, and specifically w me. Now you are on to Hollywood and etc..
@tommy_pane 4/ The bottom line, with many lines left unaddressed, bec, why? You don't get it when I do. And it is a complicated subject to which you think the answer is "Kleptocracy" or now some innuendo about other groups you don't like, that don't fit your Trumpian model.
@tommy_pane 5/ You are never actually asking a question...Not a real one. You rarely, I'll say essentially never, respond to an answer. You will try to slip out by asking the next unrelated distraction.
Its a nice trick. But endless.
And Not only mine, but others less aware of your
@tommy_pane 6/ tricks. I see you pull this act on others & wonder if I should warn them off.
And now I have gone and played the fool again.
I think there must be something to appeal to you with that will shake you out of your Q/anon, Trumpian fog.
And that is foolish of me. I know better
@tommy_pane 7/ So I'll end where I meant to begin. The hard fact:
I have said it before. It is no less true now:
You are in deep & devoted service to a lie, and as you serve & protect Trump, a Liar.
It has you unable to grapple w basic facts. & contort the ones you try to.
Like this one.
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So much of that so utterly unnecessary.
More than just the normal sorrows of life, the suffering inflicted on the country (& world) due to such illicit use of power, implementing policies & programs that incubate this suffering.
This vote is not a defeat. It is a perfect opportunity to highlight in unambiguous terms that the Republican Party is devoted not to the country,America and its interests, but they are in service to A Con. A Lie. And a Liar.
If we cannot make this case, then yes the game is over.
The Republicans overreached. It is imperative to recognize they were not voting *for Trump* they voted for their survival as a party.
With sharp decisive strategic moves this can be turned into a rout. This is Napoleon attacking Russia in the winter.
The defeat is in the move.
Let’s not do the standard democratic move and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
There are so many metaphors and examples in analogies to be brought to bear. This is not the time to admit defeat.
That would be to give them the victory.
The impeachment trial is not a vote on the merits of the case presented. The vote is about establishing a Lie as the current organizing principle of the Republican Party.
Until this Lie, & the Liar are addressed & renounced we are at risk.
As if further proof were necessary:
So just a collection of examples as they show up
Here is one.
Once the lie has become the reality. The raison d'etre, it will start manifesting in ways that first will cause a headshake of disbelief, like this report
Later it will start showing up in ways that are not obvious, not clearly tied to the underlying lie. It will be pointed out in articles and investigations, but likely won't break onto the public consciousness until the next viral outbreak happens. Some violent redux of Jan6.
When you boil Trump (& the consequent Trumpism) down to its essentials at root it is Lying.
Trump has made a life of being a liar.
It is "Trump Rule#1" expressed years ago "Trump is a liar. He does not simply tell lies, he IS a liar. Thus what he does is quintessentially a lie".
Now we are embroiled in an impeachment trial, the consequence of the ultimate Donald Trump lie.
That he won the election.
This is so fundamental a lie, that when pressed, as Trump has done, & married to a demagoguery, as he had utilized to enflame his believers, you get
what we got. A mob. Playing at an insurrection.
All because of a Lie. Propounded by a liar.
Here then is the first brick in the edifice that is the newly submerged & subjugated Republican Party:
@tommy_pane Forget it. It is an analogy/story not a point.
Basically, you ask questions not to learn anything, but to divert and ensare the conversation, try to insert confusion, not understanding. Its your way.
The q's here are not difficult. In fact most of them we have gone over multiple
@tommy_pane 2/ times. The most recent , your strange, but actually transparent, fetish about "Tell me the EXACT statue that Trump violated"... is perfect example.
You don't need, nor care about the exact code. If you did, you would simply have looked up the case that M.Cohen was convicted
@tommy_pane 3/ under. The point isnt the exact statute. That is your way of diverting the conversation into endless minutia that makes no diff to the argument. It’s a lawyers trick at best. It is a fraud and essentially, when used in this way, a lie.
@tommy_pane Not sure what the problem is. It is on YouTube.
Watched it looking for data/facts. Lots of asssertions. Lots of sneaky insinuations, but little in the nature of facts.
Still, that is not enough to discard it out of hand.
But I wonder why this is the only venue where this info
@tommy_pane 2/ is being gathered and presented?
You'll say the MSM is shutting them down.
This is not supported or supportable by the evidence. Even the basic fact I found it on Youtube, despite all your paranoia.
@tommy_pane 3/ If this were compelling, irrefutable set of facts it is curious why the only outlet for these things is this video. And likely similar low visibility, high paranoid sites....
1. This should have been part of a strong court case. But none of this was ever presented.