When you boil Trump (& the consequent Trumpism) down to its essentials at root it is Lying.
Trump has made a life of being a liar.
It is "Trump Rule#1" expressed years ago "Trump is a liar. He does not simply tell lies, he IS a liar. Thus what he does is quintessentially a lie".
Now we are embroiled in an impeachment trial, the consequence of the ultimate Donald Trump lie.
That he won the election.
This is so fundamental a lie, that when pressed, as Trump has done, & married to a demagoguery, as he had utilized to enflame his believers, you get
what we got. A mob. Playing at an insurrection.
All because of a Lie. Propounded by a liar.
Here then is the first brick in the edifice that is the newly submerged & subjugated Republican Party:
Renounce the Founding Lie.
If they will not, then nothing else matters.
The impeachment trial itself is become a farce, not for the lack of an impenetrable prosecution case.
But by the dint and opportunity allowed the structure of the impeachment process, to avoid all and any facts by the simple tactic of embracing, and advancing, a lie.
The Republicans as a Party have subordinated themselves to a Lie.
The Republicans as a Party have accepted as their functional premise for governance and leadership a Liar.
Until these cornerstones of what unifies the Republicans, devoted to their party, and not the country,
there is no chance, nor opportunity for anything like healing, unity or moving on.
You cannot unite with a lie. Or a liar at this level.
Practically, the Senate should be made to declare a simple fact: Trump Lost The Election.
Assert this premise, and displace the current functional premise of all the resistance that energizes the Republican Party, and the work can begin.
Until then, all the facts in the world are categorically dismissed as irrelevant.
The reason this is possible to be done with
a straight face is because of these very different foundational ideas & principles the opposing sides are predicated upon.
To support & accept Trump & his defense you have to be willing to adopt the Lie as axiomatic premise.
Do that, and you can sit and read the paper while the
prosecution wears itself out amassing all the facts & details, presenting their case... None of it makes the slightest of difference to you, as a Senator... or as a Trumper... you have the lie to protect you from any intrusion of fact or consequence.
And lies of this magnitude and consequence can ripple through a society for a long time, doing immense damage. As we see.
But we have not come to the end of it yet.
If this lie, and this liar, is allowed to continue, unchecked, it will be tantamount to validating the
lie and the liar as a working truth.
This does not disturb those who profit from the lie.
It is said that the reason so many Republican Senators are afraid to vote as they would if the vote were private is because
a) they are afraid of the trumpian mob/backlash. A threat to
their lives.
This is not an idle fear, as has been demonstrated many times. Trump, and his brownshirts, are quite willing to use threats, and acts, of violence to intimidate. (this should be part of the larger impeachment of Trump, but like so much, has to be left off)
b) They want to retain the base for their own electoral needs.
c) They need to remain in good standing with the Party.
It is clear that any deviation from this partisan line comes w swift consequences. Far more swift than opposing the dissolution of the republic by Trump & his
orcs, they will instantly gather to sanction, silence, destroy anyone who dares to speak anything other than the Party line. Cheney, AZ GOP, Cassidy, Sasse, Romney all have faced bitter opposition by their party apperatus.
It is hard to stand up against that.
and etc.
For these reasons, and more, the votes the Republican Senators will take is not about the matter at hand.
The vote is not, in fact, about the doings of Trump and the consequent insurrection, trying to invalidate an election, and trying to retain power by
promulgating a Gobbels level "Big Lie".
They are voting for the lie.
They will instantiate the lie as the new founding fact of the Republican Party.
It is for this reason there is no ability to have a rational conversation or debate with Trumpian sotted believers, or rulers.
The discussion is not happening in the context of trying to work out ideas & compromises around complex issues that have multiple angles & considerations
The issues are being held in the larger context of a lie.
It makes discussion any given detail or issue difficult, because in the end one side is devoted to the Lie.
Anything, and that means Any-thing, that would even threaten to expose & undermine the Lie has to be
a priori, rejected.
It is simple Machiavellian principles of survival & power.
Break the back of the Lie. First.
Then the matrix of Lies that the chief Liar has inculcated in the system, and the Repubican's have sworn to defend.
Then you can get to the Liar himself.
And if that can happen,
we might be able to save the country.
It does not seem it will happen in this battle that is the Impeachment Trial.
But convicting Trump was never going to happen.
Not with these acolytes.
What is important about this trial, and the one before is
to establish the record of fact.
There will be a time where this lie, like all lies, will lose its power to coalesce a group of believers.
Even this one.
What has to be done now is establish the record, so that when the foggery is lifted, and the dark incentives to sustain
the lie diminish, there is a clear record of fact that can be cited and appealed to to find our way back.
We'll see.
Our history is not overly encouraging along these lines.
But maybe the time has come.
But first.
No more lying.
Or liars.
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This vote is not a defeat. It is a perfect opportunity to highlight in unambiguous terms that the Republican Party is devoted not to the country,America and its interests, but they are in service to A Con. A Lie. And a Liar.
If we cannot make this case, then yes the game is over.
The Republicans overreached. It is imperative to recognize they were not voting *for Trump* they voted for their survival as a party.
With sharp decisive strategic moves this can be turned into a rout. This is Napoleon attacking Russia in the winter.
The defeat is in the move.
Let’s not do the standard democratic move and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
There are so many metaphors and examples in analogies to be brought to bear. This is not the time to admit defeat.
That would be to give them the victory.
The impeachment trial is not a vote on the merits of the case presented. The vote is about establishing a Lie as the current organizing principle of the Republican Party.
Until this Lie, & the Liar are addressed & renounced we are at risk.
As if further proof were necessary:
So just a collection of examples as they show up
Here is one.
Once the lie has become the reality. The raison d'etre, it will start manifesting in ways that first will cause a headshake of disbelief, like this report
Later it will start showing up in ways that are not obvious, not clearly tied to the underlying lie. It will be pointed out in articles and investigations, but likely won't break onto the public consciousness until the next viral outbreak happens. Some violent redux of Jan6.
@tommy_pane Forget it. It is an analogy/story not a point.
Basically, you ask questions not to learn anything, but to divert and ensare the conversation, try to insert confusion, not understanding. Its your way.
The q's here are not difficult. In fact most of them we have gone over multiple
@tommy_pane 2/ times. The most recent , your strange, but actually transparent, fetish about "Tell me the EXACT statue that Trump violated"... is perfect example.
You don't need, nor care about the exact code. If you did, you would simply have looked up the case that M.Cohen was convicted
@tommy_pane 3/ under. The point isnt the exact statute. That is your way of diverting the conversation into endless minutia that makes no diff to the argument. It’s a lawyers trick at best. It is a fraud and essentially, when used in this way, a lie.
@tommy_pane Not sure what the problem is. It is on YouTube.
Watched it looking for data/facts. Lots of asssertions. Lots of sneaky insinuations, but little in the nature of facts.
Still, that is not enough to discard it out of hand.
But I wonder why this is the only venue where this info
@tommy_pane 2/ is being gathered and presented?
You'll say the MSM is shutting them down.
This is not supported or supportable by the evidence. Even the basic fact I found it on Youtube, despite all your paranoia.
@tommy_pane 3/ If this were compelling, irrefutable set of facts it is curious why the only outlet for these things is this video. And likely similar low visibility, high paranoid sites....
1. This should have been part of a strong court case. But none of this was ever presented.
From a #Systems POV Trump either did not understand the problem, or did, and chose to solve for a different problem. He solved for how to protect himself & his broken ego/self rather than for the health & well being of the nation.
As such all the resources were diverted to
addressing that hopeless problem instead of recognizing the moment and taking up the challenge of leadership.
Trump is worse than a coward...He is, and has proven repeatedly, to be an active cancerous assault on the health & well being of the country. In no case more adroitly
exampled than in how he dealt with the COVID crisis.
From the fundamental denial of its existence - publically. We learned, much later, from Woodward, that he was well aware of the actual & potential danger... and did nothing...But lie about it. And in that gap of lies &
Such things seem absurd, but they are not. They are the specific tools used by states power when the locus of power is a person or a authoritarian ideology.
It happens in the US where Constitutional rights are violated.
Like Sandra Bland & so many others nytimes.com/2021/02/08/wor…
We are full to the brim with examples of the guardrails of the law & justice being disregarded in the quest for some other outcome.
No more justifiable than these horrible examples we shudder at, maybe mock as being so regressive, in these other countries.
Ours our just
different. They are ours. Done in the context of our world, and so seem only aberrations. And may they be.
But there is a reason the story To Kill A Mockingbird rings a truth across the generations.