Another @washingtonpost opinion: "whether it caused this pandemic or not, a lab accident could certainly cause the next one. Scientists have been sounding that alarm for some time, well before the current pandemic began." washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/…
It cites this @WIRED article: "It should be obvious that no one with any connection to either organization (WIV or US partner) can play a formal role in any truly independent investigation into the pandemic’s origins." wired.com/story/if-covid…
I don't know if the @WHO understands what is happening, but in your convened team, at least one of the members is investigating work that he funded and is part of. I don't know who the Chinese half of the WHO-convened study team is.
Ok, back to WaPo, "there’s not even a code of rules that countries are required to follow, only some non-binding guidance from the @WHO When it comes to studying, tampering with or producing new viruses, the international system is the Wild West."
The list of BSL4 labs by @FilippaLentzos@gregkoblentz keeps getting longer. “These kinds of labs are springing up much more frequently,” she says. “There are loads more than there were five years ago, and way, way more than there were 10 years ago.”
"we should at least work toward greater oversight — at the very least, by creating a body that will conduct a more stringent risk-reward assessment while managing dangerous research."
Yea, we don't have that and experts are calling for more virus hunting and experimentation.
I'm a little ticked off that I didn't even know where the BSL4 in Boston was located until just yesterday.
But you know what? It doesn't matter if it's a dozen stops away by the local metro, or an international flight away - it's coming to your neighborhood if there's an undetected or uncontrolled lab escape.
Some countries are famous for their techiness, but with any BSL3/4, it's only a question of WHEN something escapes. Maybe it's 10 years, 100 years or 1k years. If you have dozens of BSL4s...
Please read this factually grounded article by @rowanjacobsen
Many experts, who have judged that COVID-19 could've come from a lab, are trying really hard to start some kind of national or global conversation around the risks of lab pathogens causing outbreaks.
We need to start this convo, with or without knowing where covid came from.
Most scientists who work at these high BSL levels or with potential human pathogens, never envision themselves seeding a pandemic.
It's always someone else who made a mistake.
It's difficult to imagine that getting infected during your research activity can kill millions.
If we don't establish an enforceable international agreement, then I don't see what else governments can do except to install whistleblowers next to every high BSL lab worldwide that is working with replication-competent animal pathogens.
Keeping an eye on hospitals and labs.
Because having a few weeks heads up can inform all kinds of public health actions, e.g., banning travel from a city where a lab pathogen outbreak could've already started.
Instead of waiting until the @WHO calls it a pandemic with the ability to transmit from human-to-human.
Very few scientists look at their work & weigh it against a million lives.
Should I do this experiment, even if there's a super super low chance that a million people will die if it escapes from the lab?
Because it's unthinkable, we just decide it could basically never happen.
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One, most of WIV’s SARS work had been done at BSL2/3 not BSL4. It doesn’t matter what their BSL4 looks like. The work was done at a level where undergrads can be touching their faces and personal belongings with contaminated gloves.
Hoping to press the point here about why it is so important to understand whether the current pandemic arose from the wildlife trade/environmental destruction vs research activities.
The pandemic prevention strategies are in complete conflict for each scenario.
We've heard from experts who believe that this pandemic MUST have arisen from 100% natural spillover (no research activities or personnel involved). They want us to ramp up virus hunting and virus study in labs worldwide. So that we can predict and prepare for the next pandemic.
But if COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2 emerged due to the exposure of research or lab personnel, whether during the extensive fieldwork or in-lab experimentation, then this "pandemic prevention" strategy is actually accelerating the emergence of the next lab-related pandemic pathogen.
If Daszak has seen the WIV pathogen database and it is also EcoHealth’s data, why not just post the spreadsheet for the public to evaluate? No need to put up a website susceptible to hacking.
Furthermore, the biggest clue to SARS2’s zoonotic origins are those closest virus relatives in bat caves in Yunnan, China that have been frequently sampled by various labs over the past decade.
Why not search there first?
I think we should let Daszak give more public webinars.
For me, it’s been 💯 interesting to hear about how smart, rational & curious people came to the question of whether SARS2 could’ve originated from a lab... polimath.substack.com/p/on-covid-ori…
For people who are interested in the basics behind the different origins hypotheses - whether zoonotic, lab or frozen foods #PopsicleOrigins - I think this is the podcast to listen to 🎺
I also really like the article @politicalmath wrote around the podcast (because it was so flattering to me 💎) which pointed out that “When I (Polimath) try to track down information, all the “lab escape” info comes from Fox News or Breitbart...”