JW Mason Profile picture
22 Mar, 7 tweets, 4 min read
@themountaingoa1 @robertwaldmann This isn't really a conversation for twitter, but:

"Microfoundations" can mean a lot of things. I'd distinguish 4 senses:

1. aggregate model that is motivated/justified by explicit views of behavior of units at less aggregated level
@themountaingoa1 @robertwaldmann 2. aggregate model that rests on/incorporates formal model of units at less aggregated level

3. aggregate model derived from formal model of behavior of "agents", atomic units of economy who are consumers of final output, suppliers of labor, owners of wealthy etc.
@themountaingoa1 @robertwaldmann 4. aggregate model derived from formal model of behavior of agents, which must be described as the solution to an explicit intertemporal maximization problem.
@themountaingoa1 @robertwaldmann From my point of view, heterodox macro models are already better micro founded than mainstream models in sense 1, since they describe an economy that includes firms, usually banks, etc.
@themountaingoa1 @robertwaldmann On the other side, there is a lot of criticism of microfoundations in sense 4, and willingness to allow various departures from it, but that still are microfoundations in sense 3, i.e. we still have atomic agents but some of them may fail to optimize for in various ways.
@themountaingoa1 @robertwaldmann I would argue however that it is sense 3 that is the real problem -- it is simply not possible to describe an actual economy in terms of an explicit model of the behavior of atomic agents, however many types you include and however flexible you are about the constraints on them.
@themountaingoa1 @robertwaldmann That leaves sense 2. Once we abandon idea of "agents" as fundamental constituents of economy, there is always another layer of disaggregation possible. So it's a question of how far you want to go. Sometimes explicit models of firms are helpful, but often they're not needed, imo.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with JW Mason

JW Mason Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @JWMason1

24 Mar
This is right, and important, especially important if you're someone starting out on career in economics. If you want to contribute to debates over macroeconomic policy, the models you will learn in a mainstream graduate program will do you no good at all. noahpinion.substack.com/p/the-return-o… Image
I don't however agree with the reason he gives. It is perfectly possible to make useful macroeconomics models. Policy is always based on an implicit model of some kind. As soon as you've talk about a fiscal multiplier, you're using a model. Okun's law is a model. Etc. Image
The problem is with the specific kind of theory mainstream theory aspires to - a model of an abstract "economy" built up from the level of individual agents, where we can identify actual outcomes with a unique equilibrium. That indeed is hard - in fact it's impossible.
Read 6 tweets
24 Feb
Senator Warren: "I take it that your view is that inequality is something that holds our economy down and stunts economic growth. Is that a fair statement?"

Powell: "Yes it is."
Powell: "We can't affect wealth inequality. We can, indirectly, affect income inequality."

I understand why he's trying to draw this line but I don't think it's going to work.
Pushed by some southern troll to clarify whether he is for or against the Biden stimulus and relief bill, Powell refuses and adds, "we didn't comment on the tax cuts." Ouch!
Read 10 tweets
24 Feb
Powell: "Most research still says there's a tradeoff between job loss [from minimum wage] and those whose wages go up but actually the unanimity of that finding of 30 or 40 years ago is no longer in place, there's a much more nuanced understanding."

Progress in economics.
"We may some upward pressure on prices zs the economy reopens -- a good problem to have -- but I don't think those effects will be large or persistent."
(Yes, now that the kids are in bed I can finally listen to and not-quite-live tweet Powell's testimony today.)
Read 6 tweets
24 Feb
"In a global economy, people who can work with and benefit from technology, there's no limit on the number of those people who can be working in the United States."

Did Jay Powell just come out for open borders?
"Central banks have learned how to keep inflation under control - we know how to do that. But that is not a problem for this time, as near as I can figure. And if it does turn out to be, we have the tools that we need."
Senator Rounds: "The chairman has said that banks should do more to support workers and the broader economy. But they can't do that when we're tying their hands with excessive and challenging capital requirements." On the one hand, it's comically obvious special pleading. But...
Read 5 tweets
22 Feb
As you can see from the tight clustering of points around the regression line, the long-run capital-output ratio for every country in the world can be precisely estimated at 2.7. Image
You may think I am joking, but this is literally the procedure used to produce the capital stock numbers in the Penn World Tables. aeaweb.org/articles?id=10… Image
No, really. Image
Read 11 tweets
8 Feb
At the moment we are rightly focused on stimulus/relief fiscal packages. But going forward, imo, progressive economists should be pushing conversation about fundamental principles of monetary policy. (thread)
In coming years, I think there will be a permanent shift away from idea that changes in a single policy rate can be the sole or central tool of monetary policy (let alone of policy in general), for several reasons.
First, one lesson of past dozen years is that changes in the policy rate are much less powerful & reliable tools for influencing output, employment etc. than people used to think. (Honestly should have been clear already, but definitely clear now.) Broader problem than just ZLB.
Read 15 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Too expensive? Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal Become our Patreon

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!