en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Ru… Variations on the Golden Rule from many ancient sources, including ones I wasn't aware had one (Thales! the Mahabharata!)
Interesting differences: some versions say not to do to others what would hurt/harm/be bad for you if it were done to you.
Others say not to do to others what you would "blame" them for doing to you.
Hillel's "what is hateful to yourself do not do to another" seems to be in the second category -- the word for "hate" seems to be used in other contexts for hating *people*. sefaria.org/Shabbat.31a.6?…
aka "don't do unto others what you would hate someone for doing to you."
The hadith (collected sayings of Mohammed) seem to be more in the first category: "As you would have people do to you, do to them; and what you dislike to be done to you, don't do to them."
This is a stronger demand. There are lots of ways I would *like* people to treat me, but I wouldn't necessarily hate or blame them if they didn't.
The Padmapurana's version is also clearly in the first category: "that which is unfavorable to us, do not do that to others."
(Of course people who know Arabic or Sanskrit should correct me if this is a translator's illusion!)
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you:
do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets". This seems ambiguous between categories.
What do I "will" or "want" others to do to me? This seems to be less clearly a moral judgment than "what would you hate/blame people for doing?" and less clearly a plain benefit/harm calculation than "like/dislike" or "favorable/unfavorable".
Kant's critique of the Golden Rule applies to the "benefit/harm" formulations but not the "blame/hate" formulations.
A prisoner duly convicted of a crime might *want* to be released, but a reasonable prisoner wouldn't *blame* the judge for sentencing him.
Of the "Golden Rules" on the wiki page, only Hillel, Thales, and Isocrates use a blame/hate formulation, and maybe Jesus's depending on interpretation.
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Not sure I agree with Hanson that law vs. governance is independent of the "size" or "amount" of government.
A governance system (regulation) and a law system (torts) can be exactly the same in their "strictness/laxity". In his example of pollution, they can define the same actions as "pollution" and require equally costly penalties to polluters.
OTOH, in general I think you need more people to staff a regulatory agency than to staff a civil court system, so the government will literally be larger (more employees, more spending) when rules are enforced via governance.
They think (like the law) that if it’s sufficiently feasible to find out you’re causing harm and stop, you’re negligent if you avoid finding out and stopping.
@EpistemicHope@HiFromMichaelV@ben_r_hoffman@TheZvi@zackmdavis Also they believe (and so do I) that there’s such a thing as motivatedly looking away from the harm you cause, which is a very different behavior from genuine ignorance where you couldn’t have known better.
@EpistemicHope@HiFromMichaelV@ben_r_hoffman@TheZvi@zackmdavis Ben, Michael, and I all agree that PG is most likely flinching from, or in denial about, the ways in which he’s shaped YC in directions that harmed/wronged people. (Like “Fred” in Alyssa’s post.)
So, let's say the conclusion of my post is correct, and most professional investors "under-research" (in the sense that they'd get better returns if they did more research.)
Is this a *societal* problem?
To answer that, we have to understand turnover.
You could tell a story where "too many investors making dumb investment decisions" is a societal problem because it causes malinvestment.
Perhaps there are opportunities to do productive things with money, that languish unfunded because all the money goes to dumb stuff.
@jd_pressman@QiaochuYuan I mean, to the extent that you care about changing anything, it’s in some sense a “personal problem”, because you can only control your own actions.
I don’t usually see much “purchase” or usable value to be gained from the “cosmic horror frame.
@jd_pressman@QiaochuYuan Whether you call it “broken” or not, we live in a world where perpetually going with the flow can land us in trouble. (Eg we can go broke, get sick, make mistakes that hurt people, etc).
@jd_pressman@QiaochuYuan A world in which all thought is unnecessary — I don’t know if it’s possible *at all*, but it’s a long way off. As COVID19 teaches!
I think I still believe one of these papers more than I’d believe a “take” in the news or on Twitter, but less than I’d believe the opinion of a 60-year-old who has a lot of management experience.
We’ll see if the data on investors or investment analysts is better.
I did find one bizarre paper that said the rank of an investment analysis firm was *negatively* correlated with how frequently they reported using the company’s library. (Back before the Internet.)
@oscredwin makes the point that this poll conflates testing the two questions “do most people spend more time deliberating over larger amounts of money than smaller amounts?” and “do people who ever allocate >$1M spend less time deliberating over $100k than those who don’t?”
It’s arguably rational to spend more time deliberating over more money, all else equal, and it’s also arguably rational for your research-time per dollar to decline as your hourly wage increases or as the amount of money you have to allocate increases.
What I’d really like to know is if my subjective impression is correct that as people gain in wealth/authority/seniority, they have a higher “activation energy” to go check object-level facts themselves. More than you’d expect just from their time being valuable.