When I wrote JESUS AND JOHN WAYNE, I had a list of people I most wanted to read the book. @DavidAFrench was on that list. And so I'm especially grateful for this generous and serious engagement. Hard to choose, but I'll share a few highlights & then respond below. 1/
The assertion that culture defines evangelicals as much as theology he finds "spot-on": "Evangelicals are kidding themselves if they think their culture is always the result of their theology rather than their theology often following their culture." 2/
French also sees that "the John Wayne archetype"-- "an unhealthy attachment to a particularly aggressive vision of masculinity...modeled less on Christ than on secular warrior-figures..." where men defend faith & nation--correctly describes a strong strand of ev culture. 3/
Then, as a complementarian himself, French engages my critique of evangelical patriarchy, including complementarianism, with considerable humility and candor. On connections to abuse: "This is hard stuff. Yet Du mez meticulously documents how--time and again-- 4/
...Chr institutes have indulged and often valorized aggressive hyper-masculine male leaders who proved to be corrupt, exploitive, & abusive. They weren't protectors. They were predators....There were Chr mini-Trumps long before there was Trump." Exactly this. 5/
Now to the careful critiques French offers. First, Piper. I took pains to call out those in the book who dissented from the full manifestation of this ideology in terms of Trumpian politics, esp those who surprised me. (Looking at you, pre-2020 Al Mohler). 6/
Piper, too. BUT...steep price though he may be paying, it is critical that those who have been complicit in propping up the ideologies that have brought us to this place honestly & rigorously interrogate their own complicity. This is what leadership requires. 7/
Dissenting from the most egregious expressions while leaving in tact the systems and ideologies that led us directly to this place will get us nowhere. 8/
Finally, I have nothing against courageous Christian men. We could do with a few more of them. But it's when we start to define virtues as either masculine or feminine, & define masculinity & femininity as opposites, that we risk the corruption of Christianity itself. 9/
I think evangelicals in particular would do well to spend a lot more time thinking about what it means to follow Christ, and perhaps a little less time about what it means to be a Christian man or woman. The latter will flow out of the former. 10/10
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As Women's History Month draws to a close, I would be remiss if I didn't highlight my favorite forgotten woman in American history, Kate Bushnell--once a world-renowned anti-trafficking activist, innovative feminist theologian, & all around woman you didn't want to mess with. 🧵
After repeatedly encountering upstanding Christian men who perpetrated and condoned all sorts of cruelties against women--both in the United States and across the British empire--Bushnell concluded that "the crime" must be "the fruit of the theology."
But she upheld the authority of the Scriptures: The Bible was all that it claimed for itself: "inspired...infallible...and inviolable." During the fundamentalist/modernist split, she sided w/ fundamentalists. The problem was the Bible had been translated & interpreted by men.
I had the privilege of talking about Jesus and John Wayne with @aaronieq@cb_johns@aprilldiaz and Jackie Johns. I do a lot of podcasts and I love them all, but this one felt different. It went kind of deep. Take a listen. Also, as a historian, context is always relevant... 1/8
So I'll note that when we recorded this episode, I was unaware that @sniequist was about to break her silence and apologize publicly for her silence in light of revelations of her dad's (Bill Hybels) abusive behavior. Here's more on that: religionnews.com/2021/02/22/aut… 2/8
This is a lot to process, so a couple thoughts. First, as a historian I am unaccustomed to writing histories in which principal actors are still among us. Even stranger is having my own book become part of the story I've traced, in its own way. I'll say more on that another time
We're in new territory now with J&JW, with reviews of reviews appearing. Which is kind of fun, especially when penned by someone like @JohnInazu. I welcome his expert perspective on one of the questions that troubled me while writing: connections between the evangelical...
...presence at the AFAcademy. It was striking to me & I long pondered what to do with the fact that (contested) concerns over the (contested) ev presence at the Academy covered the same period as sexual assault scandals there. I did not have evidence proving causal connections...
...and yet I thought it important to note the overlap. I'm glad @JohnInazu cited my actual words, where I say that it seemed like these are 2 distinct issues, but then yes, I do suggest that they "might not be entirely disconnected." (Note the careful wording.)
So this caught my attn even before I realized Jesus and John Wayne was part of this discussion. Here's Newsmax talking about @DavidAFrench 's interview with Vox's @seanilling on how Trump was a catastrophe for Am Christians. I'll get to Rachel Hamm in a minute, but first...
I'm a big fan of French & his resistance, but I want to push his analysis further. Why Trump? It's not just that white evs are Repubs, but white evs helped shape the Repub party into what it is. This isn't about being coopted. It's affinities & alliances. vox.com/22188646/trump…
Alternative information is a huge thing. But here too it's not just that evs watch Fox and listen to talk radio. Conservative evs contribute to Fox and talk radio & conservative media cater to evs. Meanwhile Chr media generate & amplify the very same perspectives. It's symbiotic.
A perceptive review that considers J&JW's reception: "Like preachers, doctrines, politicians & positions, books & authors can become identity markers for subcultures, movements, and communities. Battleground books become symbols of community signaling." 1/ faithliterally.com/p/jesus-and-jo…
Napier suggests that J&JW is poised to become a symbol for camp categorization btw progressives and conservatives. I know what he means, and I've watched this begin to play out with fascination. But I'd dispute the categories "progressive" and "conservative." 2/6
What I see are conservatives embracing J&JW, at least if the word still means anything other than "white nationalist Trump-supporter." Conservative white evangelicals who look at J&JW and say "this is not what I believe" are redrawing the boundaries... 3/6
Apologies for the tardiness (my pesky day job interferes with my Twitter habit from time to time), but before the week is out I wanted to return @mereorthodoxy's absolutely fascinating (to me!) J&JW symposium. And so, a Friday night thread:
First, this nuanced review by @klh_sanders, which is familiar to me because, of all of the reviews I've seen of J&JW, this one most resembles the critics' voices that I conversed w/ in my head as I wrote J&JW. I considered these objections as I wrote, I weighed the evidence...
...and I crafted my narrative. So...I don't think my treatment of "outliers as evidence" is quite as reckless as Sanders suggests. I tried to take pains to differentiate even as I identified affinities. And many evs are variously shaped by mainstream and "extreme" influences.