if you're wondering why devs are so hostile towards idea guys, i encourage you to look at what went down with Forager
there are certain red flags that separate a young person saying "i have a cool idea and i'm looking for people to collab with!" and a full-grown adult luring people in with the promise of securing funding later
even a lot of established folks can't be trusted in this industry (remember all the unpaid labor on Starbound?) and lotsa people have been burned
it's important to distinguish between people who want to work with you, and people who see you as a potential tool to make money. you start to see a lot of subtext about how much a person values your labor and humanity
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