Public policy battles are different from polling: partisan & group cues, media, market as prison & structural power, tradeoffs, etc...
Divergence btwn pre-policy battle polls & outcomes doesn't necessarily mean "polls bad." It can teach us a lot about the policy process
Shor is saying polls should do more to recreate realism of policy battles via partisan frames and such. There's value in that, but in a lot of settings we actually care about what people say when they're just drawing on considerations they already have
Last thing I'll add--it's not a strong argument to say "these liberal researchers/groups have an ideology." There's also a huge market for "guy telling hard truths to naive liberal idealists." So everybody could be doing this instrumentally, or nobody could.
Michael Tesler has shown us the difference between ACA polling and ACA-with-Black-POTUS polling. We need both polls to understand politics, and the difference between them is probably not “bias” but rather politics we need to understand
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No matter the verdict, I hope they practice nonviolence tonight. They often commit violence in the streets after these kinds of announcements. I hope their leaders and elders issue calls for calm and peace. Maybe then the police won't riot. Then our communities will be safe.
I'm not optimistic. These gangs that control the streets are heavily armed. They're men with authoritarian personalities and little impulse control. Their leaders never speak out against the violence. I'm expecting these police to be violent against people and property tonight.
They go home after committing violence and physically abuse their spouses at extremely high rates. You never hear their leaders speak out against this culture of violence. Any one of the officers who speaks out against this gang "code" will be punished by the gang leaders.
I am here to Rise Above Sectarianism™ to tell you Difficult Truths™ about The Tribalism™, which you suffer from but to which I'm immune.
Tribalism™ is why bad things happen to good people.
Evolution created The Tribalism™ in our brains. It's a permanent exogenous force and yet also explains historical change. How did the Civil Rights Movement produce change? Well, you see, MLK rewired the neural pathways to cure people's Tribalism™.
Just observing US policing, you should absolutely not believe a word of what they, their unions, or their allies in state and local government say about their murders of civilians. #AdamToledo
They routinely lie, including under oath, with impunity. Prosecutors assist them in their lying. Their lies are routinely exposed, and they face no repercussions (they're often rewarded). Until you receive overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you should assume they're lying.
It's caught on tape in Serial season 3, it's routinely exposed in police brutality cases, and I saw it up close in police statements about the murder of Sean Monterrosa and their subsequent destruction of evidence. All established facts, none held accountable.
Whether police brutality is the result of incompetence, the ridiculous "feared for my life" justification, racially authoritarian psychology, or a mix of all three, it's truly amazing how destructive US policing is. Police involvement is strictly harmful.
A big indictment of poli sci, econ, and political economy is the 1970s-1990s studies of the "runaway bureaucracy", which was more concerned about excessive use of state authority by, like, OSHA, and not police. It's pretty embarrassing. Glad the disciplines are changing.
For many, the only face of the state they will ever interact with is local cartel gang that occupies their community and can just murder you with impunity if you don't immediately kiss their boots (or even if you do!).
A generous reading of @conor64 et al on "viewpoint diversity on campus" implies 3 considerations:
1) viewpoint diversity for its own sake
2) ideological representation of US (or some) public
3) "coping" & engaging with disagreement
Each important, each bad in extremes
Problem with 1: If diversity in itself is important, then why not hire on absurd and rare belief systems? That would maximize diversity.
Problem with 2: Better representation of US public's ideology in academia would almost certainly reduce the number of NeverTrump conservatives (rare the public), but massively increase Trumpism on campus. That's fine, but I'm not sure that's what this coalition wants.