Key questions are asked here, but dialogue about “dual power” that starts around 27 minutes in is a bit vague and outdated.

No mention of:

• AANES (Rojava)

• Democratic Confederalism

• MAREZ

• Cooperation Jackson

• Symbiosis

• Communalism

• Libertarian Municipalism
Our response here is being made in good faith.

While it is tiring to have to revisit and re-explain concepts and methodology we have been acting on for years now, it is absolutely necessary, and we *need* each other.

All we ask is that people do their due diligence in research.
For a more expansive breakdown of the history of “dual power” specifically, please see the thread below.

Here is a very short clip of Subcomandante Marcos explaining what we mean when we talk about “building dual power.”

For a more thorough introduction to what we mean when we talk about “building dual power,” please see the thread below.

For an introduction to AANES (or “Rojava”), here is David Graeber providing an overview of what it is and what it emerged out of:



We also recommend the reading linked in this tweet that zeroes in on the role of co-ops in AANES:

The thread below links to amazing videos and resources regarding public safety and community defense in AANES (Rojava) as well.

The tweet below links to a 2018 talk between our @CooperationJXN folks and @ercanayboga of the Mesopotamian Ecologist Movement (@ekolojihareketi) about AANES.

Please read “Democratic Confederalism” (2011) by Abdullah Öcalan (here: freeocalan.org/wp-content/upl…) and “The KCK Paradigm” + “The KCK Strategy” (2021) by @KckUnion (here: kck-info.com/wp-content/upl… and here: kck-info.com/wp-content/upl…).

These readings are very short and to the point.
For an introduction to the Zapatistas and the MAREZ, please see the thread below.

For a more “macro” or “philosophical” breakdown of the Zapatista struggle, please see the thread of highlight clips from an old Subcomandante Marcos interview below.

For an intro to our partners @CooperationJXN and @SymbiosisRev, please read “Jackson Rising” (2017) (here: jacksonrising.pressbooks.com) and “Community, Democracy, and Mutual Aid: Toward Dual Power and Beyond” (2017) (here: thenextsystem.org/sites/default/…).

Also see:

blacksocialists.us/our-strategy
For an intro to Communalism, please read “The Communalist Project” (2002) by Murray Bookchin (here: new-compass.net/articles/commu…).

For an intro to Libertarian Municipalism, please read “Libertarian Municipalism: An Overview” (1991), also by Bookchin (here: social-ecology.org/wp/1991/04/lib…).
Please do the readings! Many people (some of whom are members of our organization) have put countless hours into trying to simplify a lot of the concepts we are discussing here over the course of years, while also trying to *practice* what we discuss!

Deep theory *and* practice.
Big doomer energy in the podcast episode we are responding to here. Some of it can be attributed to a lack of deeper grounding in (or connection to) real-life, *holistic* “dual power” practice going on today and a lack of understanding around the history of “dual power” struggle.
We don’t build for seizure of state power, but to replace powers of domination with something better.

A people’s power.

A power grounded in decentralization, direct democracy, and cooperation instead of hierarchy, bureaucracy, and/or authoritarianism.

Here in the United States, we have more resources and ground to move on than many others around the world.

Some projects we’ve mentioned in this thread did deep, counter-institutional, revolutionary groundwork on timelines we can work with.

Let’s move.

PS: For the love of everything good in this world, please explore our resource guide.

It includes everything mentioned here in this thread (and more), and is organized according to length and relation to our particular strategy as an organization.

blacksocialists.us/resource-guide
PS PS: Please follow @DualPowerApp and visit dualpower.app.
It’s not about optimism.

It’s about hope.

Optimism is assessing odds of a situation and letting that determine your orientation.

Hope is looking at a situation, what is possible, and, no matter the odds, saying:

“I don’t care; I’m fighting anyways.”

To reply #1:

What’s alarming is that none of what’s mentioned above was mentioned in the same breath as “dual power.” No mention of efforts towards it in the U.S. either. But lots of talk about how little time we have.

To reply #2:

Who has argued that?

Again, none of this is being said in bad faith, but in love.

We know you are both smart.

We are just trying to encourage deeper interrogation of these concepts, and acknowledgment of the work that is already going on.

We have wasted enough time talking in our respective silos.
We have already checked with folks within our org who are actively doing the work and who also have solid theoretical grounding; they’d be more than happy to speak with you all, @thotteusstevens + @jamie_elizabeth.

It would also be good for y’all to spotlight @SymbiosisRev reps.
Also, there was talk in the pod episode about moving beyond reactive activities and pushing moments of rebellion into movements for systems change (we have addressed this before).

The piece by one of our members linked below covers one transitional tool.

This thread is relevant to this entire discussion as well.

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Persuade, but do not defeat.

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No one person or group can have a monopoly on new social relations.
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