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20 Apr, 33 tweets, 8 min read
Good morning. We are on verdict-watch in the Derek Chauvin trial. The jury deliberated last night for about 4 hours, from 4p-8p. And they resumed this morning at 8a.

What should we watch for? Besides coming forward with a verdict, at some point they might have a question.
If the jury has a question in this case -- the judge will call the parties back into court and will read the jury's question out loud - and on camera.

The judge will then answer the jury's question on the record (although he will have already discussed his answer with attorneys)
Questions can be somewhat mundane -- like asking to be refreshed on what someone testified about -- or a question about the exhibits. Here is an example jury question from the Yanez trial in 2017.
But then -- sometimes a jury question can reveal how deliberations are going.
Check out this note -- also from the Yanez jury in 2017 -- two days before their unanimous verdict was reached.
In the case of this specific note from the Yanez jury -- the judge did *not* read it aloud in court (although the attorneys all knew what it said) and the note was sealed until the verdict.
How to predict how long deliberations could take? It's a fool's errand. If the jury is basically on the same page -- it could happen today. Or if they come to it late in the day, they might wait until tomorrow.

But we have no way to know if they started on the same page.
If there is no verdict by tomorrow then they no doubt were not on the same page when they started. Being sequestered makes it go faster than if they were not sequestered.

The Noor jury spent just one night in the hotel. The Yanez jury was not sequestered and took til Friday.
Even if they start on the same page -- why might it take a long time? The elements and definitions are a lot for some people to wrap their heads around. Take a read for yourself:
mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/me…
Remember -- both guilty verdicts and not-guilty verdicts require unanimous decision by the 12 jurors.

A "hung" jury means they can't come to unanimous decision one way or another but we will have lots of warnings through Jury Questions if headed that direction.
Since the Noor verdict in 2019, I've stayed in touch with a juror from that case. I interviewed him over the phone the night of the verdict with specifics on how they decided that case. It's an interesting read.
kare11.com/article/news/l…
Then the other day, @jurordeux answered some more questions about the deliberation process, which can be enlightening when thinking about what's going on right now with the Chauvin jury.

For starters, he was unmoved by closing arguments.
He confirmed the crime elements make the deliberation process more complicated than you might imagine.
Being a part of a jury in a high-profile case changed his life.
The public tends to consume testimony differently than a juror under oath.
The Noor jury was expecting backlash over failing to convict on the most serious charge in that case.
How does a juror really set aside what they already know and feel about a case?
And here is my final question and perhaps the most helpful in envisioning what might be going on right now with the Chauvin jury.
I thought of another question for @jurordeux about their experience in the Noor case. How did they select a foreperson? What kind of role did that person take? How important might it be for the Chauvin jury?
It is far too early to think about mistrial in the Chauvin case, but there is another case here in the Twin Cities that shows how that scenario can play out. Anthony
Trifiletti shot and killed a black man who crashed into his vehicle on I-94.
kare11.com/article/news/c…
Trifiletti and the other man, Douglas Lewis, exchanged words and Trifiletti shot him. Ramsey County prosecutors charged Trifiletti with 2nd degree intentional murder. A jury trial in March (just as jury selection in Chauvin case was beginning) ended in a hung jury.
The prosecution however decided to immediately retry the case. They picked a new jury and a new trial was held -- this time with two charges: 2nd degree intentional and 2nd degree unintentional murder.
The second charge was similar to what Chauvin faces, but instead of 3rd degree assault as the underlying felony, prosecutors chose 2nd degree assault (with a dangerous weapon.) The jury acquitted on the intentional but convicted on the unintentional.
Now Trifiletti is looking at a sentence of about 12.5 years under the Minnesota sentencing guidelines.
A clarification on how jury questions will be handled in the Chauvin case. The judge will read the question on camera in the courtroom in front of pool reporters (and we will break into normal programming to air it when it happens) however the attorneys and jury will be on zoom.
BREAKING: THE VERDICT IS IN

It will be read between 3:30-4pm
#ChauvinTrial
This was a fast verdict. The jury deliberated from 4p-8p yesterday and started this morning again at 8a. So that's about 10 hours total -- which is not a long time for a case like this.
Watch here:
or on KARE 11 in Minneapolis
We await the verdict potentially in the next few minutes... Chauvin is in the courtroom with his attorney. Cameras are not pulled out yet. We will take you to court as soon as there is "movement."
We are five minutes before 4... still no movement in the courtroom. Expecting go-time any moment now.
Judge is ready. Watch now.
GUILTY MURDER 2
GUILTY MURDER 3
GUILTY MANSLAUGHTER 2

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20 Apr
Derek Chauvin is GUILTY OF ALL THREE COUNTS in the death of George Floyd.
2nd Degree Murder: GUILTY
3rd Degree Murder: GUILTY
2nd Degree Manslaughter: GUILTY
#ChauvinTrial #GeorgeFloyd
Chauvin is convicted across the board. Image
Judge thanks the jury not just for jury service, but for "heavy duty jury service."
Read 6 tweets
19 Apr
This morning we will hear closing arguments in the Derek Chauvin trial. Our coverage begins at 8:30 on @kare11. Closings start at 9 with Steve Schleicher delivering for the state, followed by Eric Nelson for the defense, then Jerry Blackwell with rebuttal for the state.
Judge Cahill is currently reading jury instructions. Very important -- as they including the elements of each crime that has to be proven. In closing arguments, the attorneys will then specifically refer back to them.
Here is our live stream:
Read 7 tweets
15 Apr
DEREK CHAUVIN TRIAL: Derek Chauvin WILL NOT take the witness stand in his own defense.

Today could be the last day of testimony. The defense has one witness scheduled.

kare11.com/article/news/l…
Watch here:
It now sounds like the defense will not call any more witnesses and will rest in front of the jury.

The state will call a rebuttal witness after that.
Read 14 tweets
15 Apr
Here's a quick little explanation of Minnesota's sentencing guidelines, which can help Minnesotans and out-of-staters alike understand what Derek Chauvin would face if found guilty -- as well as understanding the charge Kim Potter now faces. First, this is the grid.
On the grid you can see example crimes in the first column ranked by "severity level" in the second column. At this link you can find more example offenses and their corresponding severity levels. I snipped severity level 8 to highlight Manslaughter-2. mn.gov/msgc-stat/docu…
"Manslaughter 2nd Degree – Culpable Negligence" is one of Chauvin's charges as well as the charge filed against Potter.

The top row of the grid is labeled "criminal history score." If someone has prior convictions, there is a calculation used. But Chauvin & Potter are both 0.
Read 11 tweets
14 Apr
We are heading into court for the Derek Chauvin trial at 8:45a. There are some motions to handle before the jury is brought in, including some finality to witness Morries Hall. We expect testimony from Chauvin's medical experts after that.
kare11.com/article/news/l…
Here is the morning live stream:
The first issue is defense attorney Eric Nelson’s judgment for acquittal, a normal motion that happens in trials after the prosecution finishes its case. “The state has failed to provide sufficient evidence, even in the light most favorable to the state," Nelson says.
Read 30 tweets
13 Apr
The state is expected to rest this morning and Derek Chauvin's attorney will begin calling witnesses.
kare11.com/article/news/l…
Here is the morning Youtube link:
"Your honor, the State of Minnesota rests," prosecutor Steve Schleicher said.

Eric Nelson's first witness is MPD Police Officer Scott Creighton. He was the officer who arrested George Floyd in 2019.
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