@nbdbuk #FireSafetyBill thanks to @nbdbuk and the team of volunteers supporting the thread today.
Commons is just starting on the item before (a measure to reduce tool theft).
There's a short break after this item and then we will be on to the Fire Safety Bill, around 2.30 p.m.
Commons is just starting on the item before (a measure to reduce tool theft).
There's a short break after this item and then we will be on to the Fire Safety Bill, around 2.30 p.m.
@nbdbuk In terms of what to expect today on #FireSafetyBill government will try to knock out the @BishopStAlbans amendment added in the Lords last week.
It may offer a concession to avoid another rebellion. Last time 33 Conservatives rebelled against their party.
It may offer a concession to avoid another rebellion. Last time 33 Conservatives rebelled against their party.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans The bill will then go back to the House of Lords around 4.40 this afternoon. The Lords will have 3 choices. It can either give-up, add a completely new amendment, or try a revised version of @BishopStAlbans amendment.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans We don't expect a Big Bang solution today. This is an important day and another step along the road to a comprehensive solution.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans For those interested in Parliamentary procedure, this is what is a 10 Minute Rule Bill.
This gives backbench MPs 10 minutes to make a speech to propose a new law.
Another MP then speaks for 10 minutes in opposition.
The House then decides whether to allow the bill to go ahead.
This gives backbench MPs 10 minutes to make a speech to propose a new law.
Another MP then speaks for 10 minutes in opposition.
The House then decides whether to allow the bill to go ahead.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans This is an opportunity for MPs to highlight issues of concern to their constituents.
These proposals do not become law. Virtually all laws are proposed by gov't.
Each year, backbenchers hold a ballot for the chance to introduce a Private Member's Bill.
These proposals do not become law. Virtually all laws are proposed by gov't.
Each year, backbenchers hold a ballot for the chance to introduce a Private Member's Bill.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans Private Member's Bills are traditionally given time to become law.
Famous examples include the 1996 law abolishing the "year and a day" rule for murder. Before that it was not possible to charge anyone for murder if the victim died more than a year and a day after the act.
Famous examples include the 1996 law abolishing the "year and a day" rule for murder. Before that it was not possible to charge anyone for murder if the victim died more than a year and a day after the act.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans #FireSafetyBill is starting now. @ChrisPincher speaking to outline the government's opposition to @BishopStAlbans added last week.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @ChrisPincher's speech recalls the need for the bill in light of the Phase One recommendations of the Grenfell Inquiry.
Indeed, the bill does that. But it is the gov't that has delayed bringing this legislation forward.
Indeed, the bill does that. But it is the gov't that has delayed bringing this legislation forward.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms intervenes and asks why the gov't has done nothing to protect leaseholders from costs.
@ChrisPincher responds that significant money has already been committed.
The problem is it's not enough. There's only £5 billion for a bill of £15-£50 billion
@ChrisPincher responds that significant money has already been committed.
The problem is it's not enough. There's only £5 billion for a bill of £15-£50 billion
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @ChrisPincher is repeating all the same platitudes we have heard previously about the amendments lacking detail and delaying important reforms.
There is no substance to these points. Indeed, an amendment that won't get a vote today (@LiamFox's) sets out a detailed scheme.
There is no substance to these points. Indeed, an amendment that won't get a vote today (@LiamFox's) sets out a detailed scheme.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ quotes @LKPleasehold research in @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina article this weekend noting that the housing market is in danger as a result of the government's inaction and indecision since the 2017 Grenfell Fire.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @LabourSJ refers to leaseholders facing bills of up to £75k for a wide-range of non-cladding defects. It is #notjustcladding
The government appears not to care about a looming financial crisis, or leaseholders living with anxiety, fear and debt.
The government appears not to care about a looming financial crisis, or leaseholders living with anxiety, fear and debt.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @laboursj also refers to the #forcedloans scheme, which is promised but apparently won't be in place for at least a year.
@sdoughtymp intervenes noting that Wales is still awaiting a funding settlement.
@sdoughtymp intervenes noting that Wales is still awaiting a funding settlement.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @LabourSJ says that the only thing the government appears to care about is Conservative party donors, which include many large developers.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @LabourSJ asks why the Chancellor and Prime Minister are ignoring such a large scale human crisis.
Refers to NHF poll published over the weekend showing 2/3rds of Conservative MPs support public funding for cladding remediation claimed back from responsible parties later.
Refers to NHF poll published over the weekend showing 2/3rds of Conservative MPs support public funding for cladding remediation claimed back from responsible parties later.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @LabourSJ welcomes @BishopStAlbans amendment and says Labour is very interested in @LiamFox amendment, which offers a scheme to make the polluter pay.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @LabourSJ says there is no good reason for the government not to spare leaseholders from costs whilst it comes up with a longer term plan to collect the money from those responsible.
We are, after all, 4 years on from Grenfell.
We are, after all, 4 years on from Grenfell.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @LabourSJ concludes her speech by calling for justice for leaseholders now.
Says that lessons must be learned and wrongs must be right to honour the memory of the 72 who tragically lost their lives in 2017 at Grenfell.
Says that lessons must be learned and wrongs must be right to honour the memory of the 72 who tragically lost their lives in 2017 at Grenfell.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith speaking now. Says that there was a fire at a building with ACM cladding in Southampton over the weekend. There is great danger in not addressing this situation.
Says the gov't has a duty to defend leaseholders and hold those responsible accountable.
Says the gov't has a duty to defend leaseholders and hold those responsible accountable.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @Royston_Smith also refers to @LKPleasehold research into market (in)stability caused by #EndOurCladdingScandal
Recalls that the Conservatives used to be the party of home ownership. Says that those responsible, builders, manufacturers etc must be held responsible.
Recalls that the Conservatives used to be the party of home ownership. Says that those responsible, builders, manufacturers etc must be held responsible.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @Royston_Smith says gov't has accused him and others of wanting to kill off the #FireSafetyBill. All he wants to do is protect leaseholders. The bill is only likely to be amended again when it returns to Lords later today.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp speaking now.
Says Commons is again debating a government motion to force leaseholders to pay costs for which they are not responsible.
The clock is ticking. Bills are arriving which leaseholders simply cannot pay. Bills of £27,000 and £40,000 are arriving.
Says Commons is again debating a government motion to force leaseholders to pay costs for which they are not responsible.
The clock is ticking. Bills are arriving which leaseholders simply cannot pay. Bills of £27,000 and £40,000 are arriving.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @hilarybennmp says the amendment is needed to protect leaseholders now. The government appears not to have a plan to help leaseholders.
Another reference to @LKPleasehold research saying that at least two-thirds of the remediation bill is expected to fall on leaseholders.
Another reference to @LKPleasehold research saying that at least two-thirds of the remediation bill is expected to fall on leaseholders.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @hilarybennmp refers to inadequate BSF and lack of people to undertake the necessary works.
Says government does not understand that what it has proposed is insufficient.
Must be a comprehensive plan to save leaseholders from the huge burden of costs being forced on them.
Says government does not understand that what it has proposed is insufficient.
Must be a comprehensive plan to save leaseholders from the huge burden of costs being forced on them.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland speaking now. Says it is unfortunate that the Commons is having to consider this for the 3rd time.
Says this shows the strength of feeling behind leaseholder protection. Gov't has not heard the "screams of pain" coming from leaseholders around costs.
Says this shows the strength of feeling behind leaseholder protection. Gov't has not heard the "screams of pain" coming from leaseholders around costs.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @SMcPartland reels of a list of all the costs faced by leaseholders, which are #notjustcladding but also waking watch, increased insurance and internal fire safety defects.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @SMcPartland reads out a statement from @GrenfellUnited that it deplores the government's attempt to force the #FireSafetyBill through by invoking the Grenfell fire.
Says that Grenfell United wants leaseholders protected from financial ruin.
Says that Grenfell United wants leaseholders protected from financial ruin.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @SMcPartland says he asks all MPs not to condemn leaseholders to these costs. Asks all MPs to protect leaseholders.
Says the amendment gives the government time to compromise.
Says the amendment gives the government time to compromise.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook speaking now. Praises the Lords' tenacity and leadership on the issue. Notes 70 buildings affected in his constituency.
Says gov't objections to the amendment are baseless. The costs are already ruining lives.
Says gov't objections to the amendment are baseless. The costs are already ruining lives.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @stephenctimms intervenes are refers to @claddingscanda1 which shows the geographic spread of the problem across the country, including outside London.
Says he has tens of thousands of constituents affected.
Says he has tens of thousands of constituents affected.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @mtpennycook says that leaseholders are not facing theoretical future risks.
Refers to an East Greenwich sub-18 metre building facing #forcedloans and also huge insurance increases, with a £2,500 per leaseholder bill just for insurance.
Refers to an East Greenwich sub-18 metre building facing #forcedloans and also huge insurance increases, with a £2,500 per leaseholder bill just for insurance.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @mtpennycook says he has no doubt that the gov't will eventually have to put forward a comprehensive solution.
Says passing on even a portion of costs to leaseholders will mean that works do not get done.
Says passing on even a portion of costs to leaseholders will mean that works do not get done.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @mtpennycook calls on gov't to honour the commitments given many times to protect leaseholders, or else support @BishopStAlbans amendment.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @LiamFox moves his amendment. Says we must find a way forward on the issue to break ping-pong. Says there are 3 issues to be dealt with. First is forfeiture. Second is to allocate costs to those actually responsible, so the polluter pays. Third, we need a real study...
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 Done by MHCLG to evaluate the real costs and real numbers affected.
Calls on gov't to agree to do this in Queen's Speech.
Says that gov't should include measures in Building Safety Bill to allocate costs in the way his amendment proposes.
Calls on gov't to agree to do this in Queen's Speech.
Says that gov't should include measures in Building Safety Bill to allocate costs in the way his amendment proposes.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @LiamFox says politicians are elected to come up with solutions. Says 2 weeks to come up with a solution, which people outside Parliament rightly expect to see.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood speaking now. Says leaseholders are victims of deceptive practices of the building industry.
Says that gov't funding so far is too little, too late.
Says that gov't funding so far is too little, too late.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @ShabanaMahmood refers to costs of rising insurance. Says that insurance increases of affected buildings in her constituency are over 1,000%
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @ShabanaMahmood says that it is #notjustcladding and that gov't needs to come up with a solution for internal fire safety defects.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @ShabanaMahmood refers to a fire at a building in her constituency, which was said to be 2 minutes from complete disaster.
Also refers to a constituent saying bankruptcy would be preferable to continuing to fight cladding issues.
Also refers to a constituent saying bankruptcy would be preferable to continuing to fight cladding issues.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman speaking now. Says that gov't has repeatedly acknowledged leaseholders are innocent and should not have to pay.
Notes £5 billion provided to date, says it is not enough. Estimated bill is £15 billion, with £10 billion to come from leaseholders.
Notes £5 billion provided to date, says it is not enough. Estimated bill is £15 billion, with £10 billion to come from leaseholders.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @BobBlackman says gov't first promised details on #forcedloans in the Budget. No details were forthcoming.
Says recent evidence to @CommonsHCLG shows that it appears that no-one in gov't has any idea how that #forcedloan scheme will actually work.
Says recent evidence to @CommonsHCLG shows that it appears that no-one in gov't has any idea how that #forcedloan scheme will actually work.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BobBlackman says that the costs falling on leaseholders will reduce property prices and bankrupt leaseholders.
Says he understands that @ChrisPincher has to defend gov't line. But says we need assurances that leaseholders are going to get urgent help. Leaseholders cannot wait.
Says he understands that @ChrisPincher has to defend gov't line. But says we need assurances that leaseholders are going to get urgent help. Leaseholders cannot wait.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BobBlackman says he agrees with @LiamFox that this can be solved. Says if gov't doesn't like either of the amendments on offer then it should move its own amendment in the Lords.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner says that today shows Parliament at its best and government at its worst.
Says @ChrisPincher should listen carefully or else think carefully about his own future.
Says that his constituents have been forced to pay £91,380 a month for waking watch.
Says @ChrisPincher should listen carefully or else think carefully about his own future.
Says that his constituents have been forced to pay £91,380 a month for waking watch.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @BarryGardiner says that is in addition to £250-300k of cladding remedial works. With unknown costs from other remedial works outside of cladding.
Says that gov't is retrospectively imposing billons of pounds of costs on leaseholders without proper consideration.
Says that gov't is retrospectively imposing billons of pounds of costs on leaseholders without proper consideration.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @BarryGardiner gives another example of #notjustcladding noting widespread missing cavity barriers between walls and floors and around windows.
Shows that building unfit for habitation. Says gov't is not only not pursuing those responsible, it is making innocent pay.
Shows that building unfit for habitation. Says gov't is not only not pursuing those responsible, it is making innocent pay.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK says that role of "affordable home ownership schemes" in #endourcladdingscandal has been overlooked.
Many people who bought homes under this gov't backed schemes are facing 100% of the costs for properties in which they have only a small share.
Many people who bought homes under this gov't backed schemes are facing 100% of the costs for properties in which they have only a small share.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @DerekThomasUK reads out a case study from a future constituent, currently living in London with a 35% S.O. home. Facing a £50k remediation bill.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK Says that the process of applying for a grant from the BSF is extremely slow. If grant application is unsuccessful, then this shared owner will face the full bill despite not owning 100% of the property.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @DerekThomasUK praises @LiamFox amendment and calls on @chrispincher to respond in his closing speech.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy speaking now. Says it has gone on for too long and affected too many people.
Calls on gov't to accept the amendment to protect leaseholders, or else can the bill and come back with a better version in Queen's Speech.
Calls on gov't to accept the amendment to protect leaseholders, or else can the bill and come back with a better version in Queen's Speech.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @libdemdaisy criticises the gov't for "scaremongering" to try to get #FireSafetyBill passed.
Says leaseholders and campaigners would rather see the bill fail than pass in its current inadequate form.
Says leaseholders and campaigners would rather see the bill fail than pass in its current inadequate form.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @libdemdaisy criticises the gov't's outright refusal to budge demonstrates the need for an inquiry into what has gone with the cladding scandal.
Notes the widespread financial and mental health consequences of not addressing the crisis.
Notes the widespread financial and mental health consequences of not addressing the crisis.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @libdemdaisy says that this has been a protracted nightmare for leaseholders. Gov't lack of response has compounded the problem.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS says that there is a real risk of the negative equity crisis of the early 1990's if these flats are not fixed.
Says he supports Lords amendment not because it is legally perfect but because gov't needs to be forced to come up with a solution.
Says he supports Lords amendment not because it is legally perfect but because gov't needs to be forced to come up with a solution.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS says leaseholders cannot get redress through the law. Gov't has done nothing to address this problem.
Says that Lords amendment is not perfect, but he articulates a cry for help from his constituents.
Says that Lords amendment is not perfect, but he articulates a cry for help from his constituents.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @MPlainDS says that he supports @LiamFox proposal to make the polluters pay. Says that the people who made a lot of money from these shoddy buildings should be made to pay.
Calls on gov't to move its own, improved proposal in the Lords to protect leaseholders.
Calls on gov't to move its own, improved proposal in the Lords to protect leaseholders.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey speaking now. Says that it is #notjustcladding. Says the gov't focus on buildings above 18 metres and below 18 metres is simply not fair.
Notes the extortionate cost of waking watches, running at £15k per week.
Notes the extortionate cost of waking watches, running at £15k per week.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @RLong_Bailey says leaseholders are already facing bills they cannot pay. Says that this is already been looked at by Bank of England as a potential source of a new banking crisis.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @RLong_Bailey says the only way out of this is for gov't to provide up front funding to solve the problem and to recover it later from those responsible.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob says he had hoped that this issue could have been resolved before now. The #FireSafetyBill is a worthy bill, but create liabilities for leaseholders without giving them any means of redress.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @neill_bob says that leaseholders are not at fault. The people who created the problems in these buildings should be held to account. The absence of protection for leaseholders means that he supports @BishopStAlbans and @LiamFox's constructive amendments, which offers a basis for
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob progress.
Says that if gov't rejects the amendments then it must urgently come up with a solution to this problem. Says that leaseholders should be relieved, not that taxpayers pay. Gov't should provide cashflow and money should be recouped from those responsible and at fault.
Says that if gov't rejects the amendments then it must urgently come up with a solution to this problem. Says that leaseholders should be relieved, not that taxpayers pay. Gov't should provide cashflow and money should be recouped from those responsible and at fault.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @neill_bob says that gov't must think again and do something to avoid the real injustice to leaseholders.
Calls on the gov't to protect leaseholders and have a constructive solution.
Calls on the gov't to protect leaseholders and have a constructive solution.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP is to be the last speaker. Says that @BorisJohnson framed this debate well, when he says no leaseholder should pay unaffordable costs which are no fault of their own.
Gov't's measures so far fall well short of fulfilling that aim.
Gov't's measures so far fall well short of fulfilling that aim.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PaulBlomfieldMP says he has referred many times before to people trapped in unsafe and unsaleable homes facing bills up to £50k each, many of whom are first-time buyers.
This is affecting families, labour market mobility and the economy.
This is affecting families, labour market mobility and the economy.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PaulBlomfieldMP tells of constituents who fear to collect their post in the morning because they are afraid of the bills coming their way.
Says that builders and failed regulators should pay up. Only way to achieve that is if gov't owns the problem.
Says that builders and failed regulators should pay up. Only way to achieve that is if gov't owns the problem.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PaulBlomfieldMP says that leaseholders are victims of a comprehensive regulatory failure. Those responsible should pay to put right the consequences of that.
Says #forcedloans are not the answer. Calls for acceptance of Lords amendment.
Says #forcedloans are not the answer. Calls for acceptance of Lords amendment.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher responding says that House has a duty to make good law. Says he understands motivation is not to damage #FireSafetyBill
But says that amendments are ineffective and defective.
But says that amendments are ineffective and defective.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says that amendments prevent any costs being passed on to leaseholder. No framework to distinguish between different works.
This is incorrect. Costs must arise from the provisions of the Act to be caught.
This is incorrect. Costs must arise from the provisions of the Act to be caught.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says remediation would be delayed because the amendment blocks cost recovery until the statutory scheme is in place.
Perhaps that is a good idea? How much money is currently being wasted on fixing low-risk buildings?
Perhaps that is a good idea? How much money is currently being wasted on fixing low-risk buildings?
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says @LiamFox amendment provides greater clarity but suffers from same defects.
Provides for discretion to Home Secretary to adjudicate on apportioning liability across a great many buildings.
Provides for discretion to Home Secretary to adjudicate on apportioning liability across a great many buildings.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher is again wrong. @LiamFox amendment follows existing Environmental Protection Act 1990.
Says that gov't agrees on protection from forfeiture. Says that it is a draconian measure that should only be used as last resort.
Says that gov't agrees on protection from forfeiture. Says that it is a draconian measure that should only be used as last resort.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says that the forfeiture protection is something that should be included for a wider range of costs as part of forthcoming leasehold reform package.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says that gov't already proposes a £2 billion levy, which may increase, in order to provide other funding to spare leaseholders from costs.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says that both amendments are defective and should be rejected.
We are moving to a vote now. Results will be available in about 10 minutes.
We are moving to a vote now. Results will be available in about 10 minutes.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill House of Commons now voting on whether to reject the @BishopStAlbans amendment added by Lords last week. Result in about 10 minutes.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson We want the "Noes" to win here, so the @BishopStAlbans amendment passes.
Voting "Aye"/"Yes" is to defeat the amendment.
Will be interesting to see how many Conservatives rebel
Voting "Aye"/"Yes" is to defeat the amendment.
Will be interesting to see how many Conservatives rebel
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Ordinarily the gov't should have a majority of 145 here. Anything less than that number shows a rebellion.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson It will also be interesting to see if a revised version of @LiamFox amendment goes down in Lords to deal with points @ChrisPincher raised.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Result is that the @BishopStAlbans amendment is defeated 320 to 256 (majority of 64).
Another significant rebellion against the government. Will have to await voting record to see how large.
Another significant rebellion against the government. Will have to await voting record to see how large.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Remember that the majority should have been 145. It is less than half of that, indicating a huge problem.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill will now go back to House of Lords. It is due to be there around 4.40 today.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Lords will have 3 options. It can either give up, try another version of @BishopStAlbans amendment, or move a revised version of @LiamFox amendment.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP asks a point of order. Asks if it will be in order for government to put down its own amendment in Lords to address concerns raised today.
Deputy Speaker says that is up to the government.
Deputy Speaker says that is up to the government.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP So there we have it. Another significant rebellion against the government. Bill to go back to the Lords at around 4.40 today.
We wait and see whether the Lords will try another amendment to help protect leaseholders.
We wait and see whether the Lords will try another amendment to help protect leaseholders.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP I am going to go and lie down in a darkened room but will be back around 4.30.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP And this result is actually even worse for the government than last time. On 22 March gov't had a majority of 69. Today it's down to 64.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP #FireSafetyBill will be on in the Lords in around 15 minutes from now.
You can watch here: parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/8f…
You can watch here: parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/8f…
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP To recap on what happened in Commons, the government removed @BishopStAlbans amendment by a vote of 320-256, a majority of 64.
There were 31 Conservative rebels + 9 abstentions.
Less than half the expected 145 majority for the government.
There were 31 Conservative rebels + 9 abstentions.
Less than half the expected 145 majority for the government.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP We already have the Commons Reason for rejection, which is here: bills.parliament.uk/Publications/4…
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP The Lords has three options:
1. It can either give up, in which case the bill passes.
2. It can try a different variation of the @BishopStAlbans or @LiamFox amendments;
3. It can try something completely different.
Or we may see the government propose a solution.
1. It can either give up, in which case the bill passes.
2. It can try a different variation of the @BishopStAlbans or @LiamFox amendments;
3. It can try something completely different.
Or we may see the government propose a solution.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP Options 2, 3 or a government solution means the bill goes back to the Commons on Thursday.
If the bill is not passed by the end of Thursday, it will run out of time and the government will go back to square one.
If the bill is not passed by the end of Thursday, it will run out of time and the government will go back to square one.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP We may be later than 4.40 starting in the Lords. The order paper says 4.40 but the Chamber was just adjourned until "a time to be announced"
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP This website has the Lords Annunicator (the name for TV screens in Parliament showing what's happening in each chamber):
now.parliament.uk
Lords have until 5.10 this evening to put down amendments to #FireSafetyBill
now.parliament.uk
Lords have until 5.10 this evening to put down amendments to #FireSafetyBill
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP So that means we can expect the Lords debate to start after 5.10 this evening.
I will pick up with the live tweets until then. The annuciator link above will give a time.
I will pick up with the live tweets until then. The annuciator link above will give a time.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP #FireSafetyBill Annuciator says House of Lords is not expected to consider this until 6.30 p.m. now.
I hope it's a break for negotiations on a compromise and not cocktails.
This site will show the time for start of the debate: now.parliament.uk
I hope it's a break for negotiations on a compromise and not cocktails.
This site will show the time for start of the debate: now.parliament.uk
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP #FireSafetyBill: Lords is going to try again to amend this. Two amendments moved, here: bills.parliament.uk/Publications/4…
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP #FireSafetyBill: @LordRoyKennedy is going to move a revised version of @BishopStAlbans amendment.
Requires the government to produce a draft legal scheme to protect leaseholders within 3 months of the bill passing.
Gov't must give a progress update 4 months after bill passed
Requires the government to produce a draft legal scheme to protect leaseholders within 3 months of the bill passing.
Gov't must give a progress update 4 months after bill passed
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy #FireSafetyBill @KathPinnock also proposing a revised @BishopStAlbans amendment, which would prevent leaseholders paying more than £500 per year to any costs related to the new Fire Safety Order.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock #FireSafetyBill House of Lords will meet to consider these amendments at 6.30 this evening.
Proceedings should last around an hour.
Proceedings should last around an hour.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock #FireSafetyBill further updated time: the House will now sit at 7 p.m. this evening.
Either there are negotiations over a compromise going on or dressing for dinner is taking longer than usual today.
Either there are negotiations over a compromise going on or dressing for dinner is taking longer than usual today.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock #FireSafetyBill delayed until 7.10 p.m.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock #FireSafetyBill starting to run to the same timetable as TfL's Elizabeth Line...
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock #FireSafetyBill: Lords debate about to start
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock #FireSafetyBill Deputy Lords Speaker is explaining the rules of procedure for this evening's debate, which is expected to last an hour
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis speaking on the procedure for ping-pong. Says there is no Hansard (official report) of the debate and the Lords appears to have been bounced into a debate at 7.10 this evening.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says Lords have not had chance to see the amendments proposed and the House is being railroaded into making a decision this evening.
Says that Lords should look to revise rules for ping-pong so that it follows pattern for other stages of laws.
Says that Lords should look to revise rules for ping-pong so that it follows pattern for other stages of laws.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis asks House to refuse to consider Commons reasons until there has been chance to think through what was said in the Commons.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis Conservative Lords Chief Whip says that there is a Hansard (which is true, but its not official because it's yet to be corrected). Says @Andrew_Adonis has not understood the Lords' rule book, which allows the Lords to be bounced into debates like this.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis Conservative Lords Chief Whip says that House of Lords has already considered this Bill 3 times and should give way to Commons.
Says Lords have had ample time to watch a recording of Commons Debate, they could have watched it 3 times.
Says Lords have had ample time to watch a recording of Commons Debate, they could have watched it 3 times.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says that he agrees Lords can be bounced in this way according to the letter of the rules, but this is not in the public interest.
Huge issues are at stake and Lords should not be bounced into a debate.
Lord Adonis does not push his motion to delay to a vote.
Huge issues are at stake and Lords should not be bounced into a debate.
Lord Adonis does not push his motion to delay to a vote.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh speaking now, asking the Lords to accept the Commons version of the #FireSafetyBill
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @team_greenhalgh is apparently going to try a different form of emotional blackmail this evening. Refers to recent fires in high-rise buildings and praises the professionalism of fire services.
This is leading to a plea that Lords adopts Fire Safety Bill to ensure safety.
This is leading to a plea that Lords adopts Fire Safety Bill to ensure safety.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @team_greenhalgh says that Lords should now give way to the Commons, which has voted 3 times to reject all the leaseholder protection amendments the Lords have proposed since February 2021.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @team_greenhalgh says that everyone agrees that the #FireSafetyBill is not the right place to deal with remediation costs.
Says that if Lords does not give way then walls and flat entrance doors will go unassessed for fire risks.
Says that if Lords does not give way then walls and flat entrance doors will go unassessed for fire risks.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Has @team_greenhalgh not kept up with what is going on with EWS1s and Advice Notes? Leaseholders are already receiving billions of pounds of bills for remediation and waking watch and insurance precisely because of obligations being inserted by the #FireSafetyBill
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @team_greenhalgh says the government agrees industry should pay, but only to the tune of £200 million a year for 10 years. In other words, their contribution should be capped at 13% of the estimated £15 billion bill whilst leaseholders face unlimited costs.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @team_greenhalgh says the vast majority of sub-18 metre buildings will be cheaper to fix than over 18 metre buildings. Where is the evidence?
Says that all #FireSafetyBill does is clarify the law, it does not increase costs to leaseholders.
This is not what is happening.
Says that all #FireSafetyBill does is clarify the law, it does not increase costs to leaseholders.
This is not what is happening.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy (Labour spokesman) now speaking. Says firefighters are heroes and deserve to be praised. They have not always had the respect they deserve, including from @BorisJohnson
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy says that it is very unusual for Lords to push for a 4th time on the same issue. Says he will push his revised version of @BishopStAlbans amendment, which imposes a timeline on government to produce a statutory scheme.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy says that Lords is back here again because the government has been "quick to promise and slow to act" and because the government is "not listening"
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy is right. The government is deliberately dumping leaseholders with costs because its the easiest way out.
That approach covers civil servants who have failed to regulate, testers who have failed to test products properly and builders who have built fire traps.
That approach covers civil servants who have failed to regulate, testers who have failed to test products properly and builders who have built fire traps.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy says the Lords (and everyone else) is still waiting for a clear roadmap. If there was one, the Lords would listen and let the #FireSafetyBill through.
Says that there is still time for the government to listen and to compromise.
Says that there is still time for the government to listen and to compromise.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy says that government has committed £5 billion, which is welcome but inadequate.
The problem is the lack of a comprehensive solution to this scandal.
The problem is the lack of a comprehensive solution to this scandal.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy says that everyone has seen the crippling waking watch costs and insurance bills faced by leaseholders.
Says that builders, insurers and professionals involved in construction should be facing the costs of their own negligence and failure.
Says that builders, insurers and professionals involved in construction should be facing the costs of their own negligence and failure.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @LordRoyKennedy making the point that a generation of first-time buyers stand to be ruined by the government's intransigence on this issue.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock now speaking to her amendment (a £500 annual cap on fire safety costs).
Recalls that on 3 separate occasions the Lords has tried to protect leaseholders from financial ruin.
Recalls that on 3 separate occasions the Lords has tried to protect leaseholders from financial ruin.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock says that the changes by the #FireSafetyBill are welcome, but that is not the issue here.
Says that the government has delayed bringing this bill to Parliament and has now run down the clock to try to force it into law without leaseholder protection.
Says that the government has delayed bringing this bill to Parliament and has now run down the clock to try to force it into law without leaseholder protection.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock says that she has listened to the government's criticisms and produced a revised amendment which caps costs for leaseholders at £500 per year.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock says the government's promise of "jam tomorrow" in the Building Safety Bill will come far too late for too many leaseholders, who will be ruined by the time that law comes into force.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @kathpinnock says the existing £5 billion Building Safety Fund (which is actually to reach £5 billion) does not cover building defects, such as vital but missing internal fire safety measures.
@KathPinnock says leaseholders are already facing bills of £78k to be paid this year.
@KathPinnock says leaseholders are already facing bills of £78k to be paid this year.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock says that leaseholders are being asked to pay £20k to correct internal steelwork and balconies that the builder has failed to make fire resistant, in breach of Building Regulations.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock sets out other demands on leaseholders, for waking watch, for insurance and for fire alarms. Says Zoe in London has seen her service charge increase from £194/month to £700/month
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock repeats that Bank of England is concerned that up to 1.3 million flats are unmortgageable and the serious effect this could have on financial stability.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock notes @LKPleasehold research showing that flats are already failing to sell, or going for a little as a third of their original price.
Eventually this will hit bank balance sheets.
Eventually this will hit bank balance sheets.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock says this comes down to a simple question of justice. Those who have done nothing wrong should not pay the price for (in some cases) the knowing failure of others.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @KathPinnock says that knowingly forcing thousands into potential bankruptcy and homelessness is not a decision the government should be taking.
Leaseholders have done everything right and nothing wrong.
Says Lib Dems will back @LordRoyKennedy's amendment or seek vote on own.
Leaseholders have done everything right and nothing wrong.
Says Lib Dems will back @LordRoyKennedy's amendment or seek vote on own.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @BishopStAlbans says wearily that the Lords is here again and repeating what has been said many times before.
Says he wants #FireSafetyBill to pass but the sheer scale of the crisis is becoming ever more clear.
Says he wants #FireSafetyBill to pass but the sheer scale of the crisis is becoming ever more clear.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @BishopStAlbans says this is why the majority in the Commons is declining each time there is a vote.
Says new evidence is forthcoming. Refers to an e-mail at 3.56 from someone working in Parliament with a 25% S.O. flat, but faces 100% of the costs of remediation.
Says new evidence is forthcoming. Refers to an e-mail at 3.56 from someone working in Parliament with a 25% S.O. flat, but faces 100% of the costs of remediation.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @BishopStAlbans says the Parliament worker faces a mental collapse. Says that Peers are walking among people directly affected by this crisis.
Says everyone should be alarmed by Bank of England's concern that this crisis represents a systemic risk to the UK financial system.
Says everyone should be alarmed by Bank of England's concern that this crisis represents a systemic risk to the UK financial system.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @BishopStAlbans notes the @LKPleasehold research that one flat in Manchester failed to sell, despite being put up for auction with a 50% discount.
I might add, lenders are going to have to cough up big money to avoid forfeiture. If a flat is forfeit, the bank's asset vanishes.
I might add, lenders are going to have to cough up big money to avoid forfeiture. If a flat is forfeit, the bank's asset vanishes.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @BishopStAlbans is quite right to point out the financial risk of all this. Housing is what caused the 2008 crash, which we taxpayers had to cover and which still affects the economy today -- these record low interest rates and quantative easings are not normal at all
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @BishopStAlbans calls on government to either produce a compromise amendment itself or give a formal undertaking on the content of the Building Safety Bill.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton speaking now. Refers to the fact that he is a surveyor.
Says there should be no doubt that government's approach will cause significant damage and distress to many, many people.
Says there should be no doubt that government's approach will cause significant damage and distress to many, many people.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton commends persistence of Lords in trying to protect leaseholders. Says government has produced some money, but no plan to resolve the issue.
A plan is what is needed to solve this problem.
A plan is what is needed to solve this problem.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton says that government cannot have been ignorant of the warnings that have been issued by all observers of the property market, from the Bank of England down.
Says that there is a groundswell of opposition in the Commons, which has grown each time.
Says that there is a groundswell of opposition in the Commons, which has grown each time.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton has failed to demonstrate any statistical evidence supporting its targeting of resources to buildings above 18 metres.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton says he blames the government machine for failing to produce a coherent response to these issues.
Says market and financial failures are a probable and natural outcome from this bill.
Says market and financial failures are a probable and natural outcome from this bill.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton says government has deliberately conflated matters such as replacing fire alarms with installing entire new systems in an effort to bamboozle people into understanding its true intentions.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton says government could take up @LiamFox amendment and take up forfeiture protection. It could take up McPartland-Smith approach. It could give commitments that these would be taken up in Queen's Speech.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton says this issue is crying out for government leadership.
Says that a few days ago he circulated a paper regarding the looming disaster in the professional indemnity insurance market that the government's botched Advice Notes and EWS1 has already caused.
Says that a few days ago he circulated a paper regarding the looming disaster in the professional indemnity insurance market that the government's botched Advice Notes and EWS1 has already caused.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton says he has tried to persuade the government that it is on the wrong track. Government chooses not to act to avert terrible consequences for homeowners.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh Earl of Lytton says he will support the amendments proposed by @LordRoyKennedy and @KathPinnock
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire speaking now. Says that while headlines are focussed on No. 10 refurbishment, this is a far more serious issue.
Says innocent leaseholders are the sole group being forced to shoulder the burden.
Says innocent leaseholders are the sole group being forced to shoulder the burden.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says that she wants some reassurance from the government as to what is going to happen.
Says this is not a cheap attack on developers or landowners. Says this is the same sort of injustice that befell 39 postmasters because no-one would listen to them.
Says this is not a cheap attack on developers or landowners. Says this is the same sort of injustice that befell 39 postmasters because no-one would listen to them.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says that she does not understand the government's obsession with "levelling up" when billions of state subsidies have been given to builders who have built Help To Buy homes that have turned out to be defective.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says many leaseholders feel that buying their properties was the biggest mistake of their lives.
Asks the government to listen to leaseholders. If not, then to listen to the Bank of England, which is worried this will cause a new financial crisis.
Asks the government to listen to leaseholders. If not, then to listen to the Bank of England, which is worried this will cause a new financial crisis.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says that if over a million properties becomes unmortgagable and if leaseholders become bankrupt this will lead to terrible consequences for the market, for labour mobility, for families everywhere.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says that she supports Earl of Lytton is asking the government to give a clear, binding indication of what its plans actually are.
Says that a promise of loans in the future is not good enough.
Says that a promise of loans in the future is not good enough.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says that as a leaseholder she is not being cavalier about the bill or fire safety.
Notes @GrenfellUnited has condemned the government for trying to use the 2017 fire to justify the forcing through of the #FireSafetyBill
Notes @GrenfellUnited has condemned the government for trying to use the 2017 fire to justify the forcing through of the #FireSafetyBill
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire Lord Stoneham (LD) speaking now. Says he is speaking on behalf of Lord Newby who cannot be here this evening.
Says that the government emphasises the fear of bill not going through but pays no attention to consequences of the law.
Says that the government emphasises the fear of bill not going through but pays no attention to consequences of the law.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire Lord Stoneham says a lot of the leaseholders affected by #FireSafetyBill are first-time buyers, from whom developers have profited handsomely.
Says he cannot understand why the government fails to act in this area and appears to have no plan, such as for pooled insurance.
Says he cannot understand why the government fails to act in this area and appears to have no plan, such as for pooled insurance.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire Lord Stoneham is right. The government's unseemly haste to pass the #FireSafetyBill seems to be geared to sparing civil servants and industry of blame rather than addressing this problem.
Says that cladding is revealing all manner of other problems, such as structural faults.
Says that cladding is revealing all manner of other problems, such as structural faults.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire Lord Stoneham says these buildings have been built to maximise profits for developers at leaseholders' expense.
Says leaseholders need to see a plan, pressure on the developers and a clear path to funding to fix these problems.
Says leaseholders need to see a plan, pressure on the developers and a clear path to funding to fix these problems.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire Lord Stoneham says construction industry is dysfunctional and needs intervention to address skills, quality and regulation. It must start now. This problem must be addressed.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says that the cladding scandal is turning into another Hillsborough Scandal. Says that after failure after failure succeeds each other. The scandal grows. Says government will eventually have to concede.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says it was obvious from Commons debates this afternoon that the number of Conservative MPs against this bill, MPs who had previously supported Right To Buy, that the government has failed to manage this issue.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says that government has offered inadequate money to solve the problem.
Says just solution here is for leaseholders to be spared the costs caused by shoddy developers or lax public authorities.
Developers and others should be held to account.
Says just solution here is for leaseholders to be spared the costs caused by shoddy developers or lax public authorities.
Developers and others should be held to account.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says leaseholders cannot meet the costs being forced upon them.
Notes @LiamFox and @mplainds speeches this afternoon, who reeled off details of ruinous costs already faced by leaseholders.
Notes @LiamFox and @mplainds speeches this afternoon, who reeled off details of ruinous costs already faced by leaseholders.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis notes the government majority fell to less than half of what was expected today, even lower than last time the Commons considered the issue in March.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says that government's failure to act will drag its reputation down to a far lower level than it is already.
Says that the amendments are not trying to legislate for the government, but instead to force the government to act.
Says that the amendments are not trying to legislate for the government, but instead to force the government to act.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says if government won't accept amendments then it should give a firm commitment as to when it will come forward with a scheme.
Says @ChrisPincher offered spurious reasons for objecting to the amendments. Says the government has the power to produce its own scheme
Says @ChrisPincher offered spurious reasons for objecting to the amendments. Says the government has the power to produce its own scheme
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says that he agrees leaseholders have responsibility for day-to-day issues, but not where the state and developers have failed in their responsibilities.
Says it is right to send the matter back to the Commons. Says that government will concede eventually.
Says it is right to send the matter back to the Commons. Says that government will concede eventually.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @Andrew_Adonis says that government's reputation will be indelibly tarnished if it only gives in at the last possible moment.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @team_greenhalgh now repeating the government's inaccurate statistics that show many buildings with ACM cladding are already under remediation. This statistics are not accurate, they count even basic preparation as "work underway".
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @team_greenhalgh says that 50% of building owners with ACM cladding agreed to pay removal costs and spare leaseholders.
Meaning 50% of such owners did not and dumped the bill on leaseholders or taxpayers.
Including @ballymore, which still owns the freeholds.
Meaning 50% of such owners did not and dumped the bill on leaseholders or taxpayers.
Including @ballymore, which still owns the freeholds.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @team_greenhalgh also does not say (because there are no statistics) how many building owners with non-ACM cladding have stepped up and covered remediation costs.
My guess is that the rate is far lower than 50%.
My guess is that the rate is far lower than 50%.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @team_greenhalgh again repeats reforms will be forthcoming in the Building Safety Bill. He says that this will include reforms of limitation periods and the ability to prosecute directors and companies.
These changes are welcome, but will only help future homeowners.
These changes are welcome, but will only help future homeowners.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @team_greenhalgh says that the amendments proposed are impracticable and unworkable. Says the amendments cannot solve the "who pays" issue.
This is a repetition of previous objections. Had the government acted in the 4 years it had since Grenfell, this would not be happening.
This is a repetition of previous objections. Had the government acted in the 4 years it had since Grenfell, this would not be happening.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @team_greenhalgh says that the amendments "orphan liabilities".
Why is it only leaseholders who can have obligations imposed on them but no other party, including those responsible, can be made so liable?
Why is it only leaseholders who can have obligations imposed on them but no other party, including those responsible, can be made so liable?
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @team_greenhalgh offers a new reason for objecting to the amendments: State Aid. Says government cannot subsidise anyone.
Unless, of course, its £30 billion in subsidy for developers via Help To Buy. In which case, the chequebook is wide open.
Unless, of course, its £30 billion in subsidy for developers via Help To Buy. In which case, the chequebook is wide open.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @team_greenhalgh again appeals to Lords to give way to the Commons. Repeats same excuse that amendments will not be effective and may make the solution even worse.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @team_greenhalgh says that Peers are either with the government or against it, and they either support fire safety or they do not.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @LordRoyKennedy says he is disappointed by @team_greenhalgh's response. Says the government's position lacks support. Not a single backbench Conservative peer spoke in favour of the government's indefensible position.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @LordRoyKennedy says that this issue will not go away. Says that there is a lack of understanding of the plight of innocent leaseholder victims.
Says people are in real trouble and need their government to help them.
Says people are in real trouble and need their government to help them.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @LordRoyKennedy reiterates @BishopStAlbans point that shared owners are being hammered by this, facing 100% of the cost when they only have a share of the equity.
Asks why the government is not setting out a path to solving this problem.
Asks why the government is not setting out a path to solving this problem.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @LordRoyKennedy says he will force a vote on his amendment. Says this is the Lords' job, to ask the government to reconsider.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore @LordRoyKennedy says the government has deliberately run down the clock on the #FireSafetyBill. It moved far quicker on the Trade Bill. This was a deliberate choice by the government.
Says government could solve the issue if it wanted to.
Says government could solve the issue if it wanted to.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore #FireSafetyBill @LordRoyKennedy amendment now going to a vote. We can expect the result in about 10 minutes.
Expect a government defeat. The interesting thing will be to see if the Lords majority also goes up, as it did last time and the time before.
Expect a government defeat. The interesting thing will be to see if the Lords majority also goes up, as it did last time and the time before.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore Last time the Lords voted 322-236 (majority 86) in favour of leaseholder protection. We shall see what the vote is this time.
Result in about 10 minutes.
Result in about 10 minutes.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore #FireSafetyBill @LordRoyKennedy amendment passes by vote of 329 to 247 (majority 82). This is 4 less than last time.
Strong feeling on this issue. Bill will now go back to the Commons, probably on Thursday, where government will doubtless try again to reverse Lords changes.
Strong feeling on this issue. Bill will now go back to the Commons, probably on Thursday, where government will doubtless try again to reverse Lords changes.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore #FireSafetyBill: And that's the end of proceedings today. The bill now goes back to the Commons. Likely on Thursday, but we can expect an announcement on that.
@nbdbuk @BishopStAlbans @ChrisPincher @stephenctimms @LiamFox @LabourSJ @LKPleasehold @thesundaytimes @Lees_Martina @SDoughtyMP @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @SMcPartland @GrenfellUnited @mtpennycook @claddingscanda1 @ShabanaMahmood @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @DerekThomasUK @libdemdaisy @MPlainDS @MPIainDS @RLong_Bailey @neill_bob @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP @LordRoyKennedy @KathPinnock @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh @Fox_Claire @ballymore The government is now clearly warned it is on the wrong path and needs to change course to protect leaseholders.
There is a material risk the bill will now be lost because it will run out of time.
We shall see if a last ditch concession offer is made.
There is a material risk the bill will now be lost because it will run out of time.
We shall see if a last ditch concession offer is made.
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