Thread by @LiamSpender

@nbdbuk #FireSafetyBill: Commons is just concluding the item before the bill on the agenda. MPs are asking questions regarding the UK's aid for India to help it cope with its coronavirus outbreak.

@nbdbuk #FireSafetyBill once this item is over the House of Commons will start to consider the bill. Debate will last no more than 1 hour.

@nbdbuk #FireSafetyBill expect the government to try to knock out the amendment added by @LordRoyKennedy in the Lords last night.

Anything less than a majority of 145 for the government on that vote shows a rebellion. Key test is whether number of rebels holds up.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy #FireSafetyBill Commons is on a break for coronavirus cleaning measures but will start in a minute or two.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy Many thanks to @nbdbuk and all volunteers for helping with today's Tweet Tree.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy #FireSafetyBill -actually scratch that. I've misread the agenda. Tim Farron is trying a 10 minute rule bill before the Fire Safety Bill, so we should start in 20 minutes.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy The 10 minute rule bill is to improve the standards of farming regulation, moved by Lib Dem MP Tim Farron. It has no chance of becoming law, but he is raising the point to draw attention to the issue.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy #FireSafetyBill: the 10 minute rule bill is winding-up, so the debate will start on Fire Safety now.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy #FireSafetyBill: @ChrisPincher speaking for the gov't: he is asking the Commons to throw out the amendment the Lords inserted last night.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher #FireSafetyBill @ChrisPincher adopts the same tactic as @team_greenhalgh last night in trying to invoke a love of heroic firefighters as a call to pass the bill without leaseholder protection amendments.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh The issue with the pursuit for safety is that the government has not defined a clear safety standard. We have been left with Advice Notes instead.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh #FireSafetyBill @ChrisPincher says the House should throw out the amendment because it will hold-up the bill and mean that external walls and flat doors go unassessed.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @ChrisPincher is of course totally wrong. Greedy managing agents have seized the opportunity to take fees with both hands and commissioned all manner of inspections, inside and out, in response to Advice Notes.

This is why leaseholders are already having to pay ruinous costs.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @ChrisPincher is offering a new excuse for not doing anything: the Human Rights Act issues raised by protecting leaseholders will take too long to address.

Again, totally wrong. The government has had 4 years to protect leaseholders. It has chosen not to do so.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @ChrisPincher serving up the same weak reasoning we have heard many times before to justify a vote to throw out the amendment.

Today's angle is that trying to protect leaseholders will derail the housing market.

The gov'ts lack of action and botched Advice Notes are the problem

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @ChrisPincher repeats that the Building Safety Bill will have powers to prosecute companies and directors. High Rise Levy & Developer Tax will see industry contribute.

Says gov't will take steps to reform forfeiture as part of leasehold reform package.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @ChrisPincher says he will take up @liamfox suggestion of a national study to see what costs are being faced by leaseholders.

This is all weak and wrong. The Developer Levy will cover only 13% of the estimated £15 billion cost.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @ChrisPincher promise of action in the Building Safety Bill and on forfeiture is welcome, but is no use to leaseholders already having to pay for waking watches, insurance and ruinous remediation costs.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP intervenes to say that the issue here is the gap in funding offered by the government.

Says the point of the amendments, which is who pays, needs to be addressed by the government.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @ChrisPincher responds with the same robotic PR script about the government's 5 Point Plan. He misses the point. None of what is promised is adequate to the scale of the bill.

The fact that the bill is unknown is down entirely to the gov't failure to assess scale of problem.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @ChrisPincher harping on about taxpayers v. leaseholders. This misses the point entirely. Leaseholders are victims of botched regulation and shoddy construction. They should not have to pay.

And, by the way, leaseholders are taxpayers. If they're not, I'd want a refund.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @ChrisPincher now offering faux legal reasons for not accepting the amendments to the #FireSafetyBill

There is no substance to any of this argument. If the government chose to protect leaseholders it could do so, with or without a new law. It chooses not to protect them.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @ChrisPincher also objects to @LordRoyKennedy's amendment on the grounds that it proposes too tight a deadline to provide to protect leaseholders.

As above, it's tight because the government has repeatedly broken its promises, repeatedly failed to take any action.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @ChrisPincher concludes by saying that trying to help leaseholders by protecting them from costs will derail the housing market.

The mind boggling idiocy of this position is astounding. How can protecting leaseholders from ruinous costs ruin the housing market?

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ speaking now. She says this boils down to the fact that the gov't is happy for leaseholders to pay 2/3rds or more of the estimated £15 billion bill.

Notes that yesterday the gov't majority was halved and not a single Conservative backbencher spoke in favour.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @LabourSJ says she suspects @ChrisPincher agrees with the logic of helping leaseholders.

Says that he must be concerned that the Bank of England sees a looming housing market disaster.

Says that the issue is Conservatives are beholden to property interests' donations.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @laboursj says that it is "frankly insulting" to Grenfell survivors to put the blame on leaseholders to justify throwing out the amendments, because it would delay the bill.

She is quite right. The issue is that gov't does not want to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @LabourSJ says that it is already too late to avoid adverse effects on the housing market. Leaseholders are already struggling to pay costs, struggling to sell their properties.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @LabourSJ says that the gov't should provide up-front cashflow funding and then claim the money back from developers, cladding manufacturers and others.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @LabourSJ says it is shameful that many Conservatives, despite a poll showing they support leaseholders, failed to vote to protect leaseholders yesterday.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith says he agrees with @LabourSJ's point, except to deny that the gov't is in the pocket of developers.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @Royston_Smith says that the gov't has deliberately run down the clock to avoid protecting leaseholders. There has been more than 5 months to reach a compromise. Amendments have been tried continuously since then.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @Royston_Smith says that the amendment does the government's work for it. It provides a means for the #FireSafetyBill to pass while also protecting leaseholders.

Calls on government to compromise. Says he will vote against the whip again today.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @Royston_Smith says that either the gov't will accept the amendment today, or else produce a compromise of its own in the Lords later today.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp repeats his point of yesterday, saying that this is a problem that will not go away.

Says that leaseholders cannot continue to pay at the rate they are paying. They need help now.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @hilarybennmp says that the uncertainty is not caused by voting for any amendment, but due to the govt's inaction on the issue of who should pay these costs.

Says that gov't has a duty to redraft the law to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @hilarybennmp proposes that the government convenes a round table discussion with leaseholders, agents, contractors to track progress on this issue.

To come up with a plan to solve this problem once and for all.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @hilarybennmp says only a comprehensive plan will bring this nightmare to an end.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @LiamFox says we all want the same thing. Protection for leaseholders and taxpayers. And that the polluter pays. All of this is perfectly clear.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @LiamFox says he welcome @hilarybennmp's suggestion of a round table. Says we need to understand why the money already pledged is not getting through to help leaseholders.

Says he hopes this suggestion can be implemented quickly.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @LiamFox says that there is some compromise possible with the promise on forfeiture, but it needs to be done much quicker to help leaseholders now.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @LiamFox welcomes the comments regarding improvements to the Building Safety Bill. Says these are the building blocks of a compromise.

He is implying more needs to put on the table to get a compromise.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron says he supports the Lords amendment to the #FireSafetyBill. It is entirely right that leaseholders are protected.

Criticises gov't for trying to run down the clock on this to force the bill through without leaseholder protection.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @timfarron says leaseholders' supporters are not going anywhere. They will be back next session to continue the fight.

Says the gov't inaction shows whose side the gov't is on. And it appears to support developers over leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman speaking now. Laments the fact that we are still in ping-pong between Commons and Lords.

Hits the nail on the head: says the key issue here is who pays these costs, not whether safety is important.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @BobBlackman says that there is not enough money to pay for all of the buildings affected. It is going to take years for the works to be carried out. Leaseholders face costs they cannot pay now. The Building Safety Bill is too far away to be of any help now.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @BobBlackman says there are still no details on the #forcedloan scheme proposed for buildings less than 18 metres.

Says @CommonsHCLG will publish a report on these issues tomorrow, which will be critical of the gov't.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BobBlackman calls on gov't to give clear commitments on what will be done to protect leaseholders, details of #forcedloans and details of Building Safety Bill timetable.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BobBlackman says in the absence of such commitments, there is no option other than to support the amendments.

Says the gov't should send a clear message that leaseholders will not have to pay.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner says the gov't has caused the delay to the bill by refusing to protect leaseholders, despite promising to do so 17 times previously.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @BarryGardiner gives an example of a building in his constituency that is facing a large bill for fire safety work. The name of the agent concerned, and its heavy handed approach, will come as no surprise to any in the industry.

Hint: you can read it in Hansard later.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @BarryGardiner says that the EWS1 form is of no help to leaseholders. Says that the decisions are still made by banks.

Says EWS1 is the gov't subcontracting its responsibilities to a malfunctioning private market.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @BarryGardiner says the gov'ts inaction and reliance on EWS1 has made problems immeasurably worse for leaseholders. There aren't enough properly qualified surveyors to conduct the inspections.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob speaking now. Says he will break the whip again and support the Lords amendment.

Says it is disappointing that the gov't has not offered any successions to get #FireSafetyBill through with leaseholder protection.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @neill_bob says that current funding on offer is not enough and does not protect leaseholders from all costs.

Says that if gov't doesn't like the amendment then there is time for it to produce its own, including the approach suggested by @LiamFox amendment yesterday.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @neill_bob says that leaseholders in his constituency are already stuck in unmortgageable properties having spent tens of thousands on waking watch etc. costs.

Says we must protect innocent leaseholders until a permanent funding solution is found.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @neill_bob says that, as a former minister, he has no truck with @ChrisPincher's assertion that the gov't cannot draft legislation as quickly as the amendment would require.

He's right. Look at how fast the Coronavirus Act, Brexit legislation etc were drafted

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP speaking now. Says that @ChrisPincher complaints about the uncertainty caused by the amendments are baseless.

The uncertainty is caused by the gov'ts inaction on costs, not attempts to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @SDoughtyMP giving the Welsh perspective on this, says that the Welsh gov't has been trying to put pressure on developers and engaging on leasehold reform.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @SDoughtyMP says that the bottom line is that leaseholders should not pay for something that is not their fault, all else flows from that point of principle.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @SDoughtyMP criticises gov't for failing to clarify how much funding will be available to deal with this issue in Wales. Says gov't has ignored pleas for clarity.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @SDoughtyMP refers to the Barnett Formula. This deal, first struck in the late 70's, allocates extra money to Scotland, Wales and NI to reflect their additional needs.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury recalls that gov't has said many times that leaseholders will not have to pay. Asks why the gov't still disagrees with the Lords Amendment.

Says gov't has had 5-7 months to sort out an amendment to protect leaseholders.

Says 3 million leaseholders need help now.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @RuthCadbury says that leaseholders live in fear of fire and bankruptcy from ruinous remedial costs.

Gives examples of buildings in her estate which have suffered fires and unaffordable and unknown costs, including waking watch, remediation and internal fire safety defects

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @RuthCadbury says that the current funding does not cover all issues and is any event not enough to cover the cladding on all buildings.

Too right. It is #notjustcladding

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @RuthCadbury says that leaseholders should not pay. Says gov't could chose to help now but chooses not to do so, instead only offering jam tomorrow in the Building Safety Bill.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP speaking now. Says we have heard a great deal about @BorisJohnson's honesty and integrity (or lack thereof).

Says that the PM has promised personally that leaseholders should not have to pay, but has ordered his MPs to vote down amendments protecting l'holders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PaulBlomfieldMP recalls the many excuses offered to justify rejecting all previous amendments. He is explaining why the gov't has had plenty of time to deal with this issue.

The gov't chooses not to help. There is no reason it cannot help other than its own choice.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PaulBlomfieldMP says MPs have to recognise their responsibility to protect leaseholders from comprehensive regulatory failure and shoddy construction.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Deputy Speaker wonders whether MPs speaking from home can see the 3 minute time limit on speeches. Asks for technical people to look at the issue.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher responds to the debate, so we are approaching a vote on the government's request to reject the Lords amendment to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says the gov't understands the aims of the amendments sent back by the Lords over the past few weeks.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says he agrees with @LiamFox that Conservatives want people to get on, and stay on, the housing ladder.

Repeats the platitude about the gov't already taking action to preserve value in housing market.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @chrispincher responds to @BobBlackman's request for timing on Building Safety Bill. Says @team_greenhalgh is working on it and supporting statutory instruments and he is doing that as quickly as possible.

Nearly 12 months as quickly as possible so far...

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher says amendments sent back by the Lords have all been defective, as is the current amendment.

Says that Conservatives are committed to protecting leaseholders and it has nothing to do with developer donations.

Really? Even when they pay the PM's bills?

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @ChrisPincher a deeply unimpressive speaker lacking in compassion, as always.

His reasons for rejecting the amendments make no sense and have no legal substance whatsoever.

This comes down to a choice to protect leaseholders or not. The gov't chooses not.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @Chrispincher says that the legislation is required urgently so gov't can use Article 24 of FSO to implement Grenfell Inquiry recommendations.

This relates to making regulations to ensure fire precautions. The gov't could do this now, or at any time since 2005.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @PBottomleyMP raises another point of order. He asks the gov't to roll over the bill to the next session, to give more time to solve this issue.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Deputy Speaker responds on point of order, says it is up to gov't to decide whether to roll over the bill or not.

@PBottomleyMP using parliamentary procedure to ask a question to minister indirectly, out of time via his point of order.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Deputy Speaker putting government's request to throw out the vote now. Vote starting. We should have the results in about 10 minutes.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson As with yesterday's proceedings on #FireSafetyBill, the key is how close (or not close) the vote is to the 145 majority we would ordinarily expect.

145 is the gov't majority across English and Welsh MPs, who should be the only ones voting on this bill.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Yesterday the gov't only had a majority of 64, less than half the figure expected.

If that number drops further today then it shows the strength of feeling against the lack of leaseholder protection.

That increases the chance the Bill will be lost due to lack of time.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson I am myself running out of time. I will post the vote result and then go back to my day job.

@nbdbuk will take over the thread, but I should be back after work this evening to cover the Lords.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Many thanks as always to the volunteers in the Tweet Tree and to @nbdbuk for organising.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill result is @LordRoyKennedy leaseholder protection amendment is defeated 322-256 (majority 66).

Majority 2 up on yesterday's 64.

Terrible result for the gov't. Real chance the Bill will run out of time.

Bill will go back to Lords at 7ish this evening.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Deputy Speaker adding to her ruling on @PBottomleyMP point on rolling over the bill to the next session.

Says bill cannot be rolled over to the next session because it has already been considered by Lords.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson Deputy Speaker dealing with consequentials. A committee will be appointed to draft the Commons official reason for rejecting the amendment, which will be published later.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson And that's it for the Commons proceedings this afternoon.

I will have to go back to work now but will cover the Lords proceedings later this evening. Lords due to start at 7.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill. The Lords is running about 40 minutes behind schedule so far.

They are just going through questions on the UK's first aircraft carrier strike group deployment.

Fire Safety Bill should be on around 7.40

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill has been put back until 8 p.m.

Lords will sit later tonight to receive any messages back from Commons, assuming it sends any amendments back there at 8 this evening.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill: Lord Ashton (in charge of government business in the Lords) says it is about time the Lords gave way to the Commons on the Fire Safety Bill.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill Lord McCormack says that the Lords has pushed back as hard as it can and it is time to let the bill through.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill this is not the debate on the bill itself, only an update on timing and procedure.

The debate itself will be at 8 p.m. this evening.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill the Lords is currently considering amendments to the Overseas Operations Bill.

This has been controversial because it tries to protect serving soldiers from prosecutions for certain crimes committed whilst on active duty.

Fire Safety Bill will follow this debate

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill the Lords are making many of the same complaints about the government's failure to listen in relation to the protection of soldiers that we have heard in relation to the FSB.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill the Lords debate on the Overseas Operations bill is winding-up now, so Fire Safety Bill debate should start soon.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill in terms of what to expect this evening, the Lords is running up against the constraints of our constitution.

The Lords is not elected and is expected to give way to the Commons, which is elected.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill it will be interesting to see what happens in the face of pressure to give in to the Commons.

The Lords may either give way or try to amend the bill again, in which case it will have to go back to the Commons.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill @team_greenhalgh is in his place on the front bench and we are starting now.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill: Deputy Lords Speaker is explaining details and procedures about the debate and speeches this evening.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson #FireSafetyBill @team_greenhalgh speaking now. He is asking the Lords to agree to accept the bill without any leaseholder protection.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @team_greenhalgh is emphasising the point that the Lords is constitutionally obliged to give way to the Commons, which is elected.

He is saying the bill will be lost if the Lords insists on leaseholder protection. Says the gov't will not change its position.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @team_greenhalgh is repeating the excuses for not accepting the amendments that we have heard so many times before.

He says without the bill people's safety will be at risk because walls and doors will go unassessed.

The gov'ts Advice Notes already force this work to happen.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @team_greenhalgh says that proceeding without the new law will put the government at litigation risk.

As I've explained here, the extra-statutory Advice Notes have already imposed these standards: law.ox.ac.uk/housing-after-…

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @team_greenhalgh repeats what he said last night about the Building Safety Bill. He says that forfeiture protection will be included in the leasehold reform law when it comes before Parliament.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy (Labour spokesman) speaking now. Says it is disappointing and outrageous that the gov't is not delivering on its promises to victims of the cladding scandal.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy says majority of Conservative party appears to recognise the justice issue but is not willing to do anything about it.

Condemns the government for running down the clock to force the Lords into this last-minute showdown.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy says the gov't has delayed for 4 years in bringing the #FireSafetyBill to Parliament.

It cannot be right that the innocent leaseholders pay.

Says he wants to see insurers, builders and professionals (or their PI insurers) being held to account.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy reads out statements from Boris Johnson in which he has promised to protect leaseholders.

Calls on @team_greenhalgh to reflect on these quotes and think about whether he is doing enough to #EndOurCladdingScandal

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy is emphasising that for several years now, leaseholders have been promised that they will be spared remedial costs, but the gov't reversed course in February and decided to leave them with a minimum of 2/3rds of the estimated £15 billion bill.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy says that the amendments offered to #FireSafetyBill have done no more than to give effect to the Boris Johnson's promises and the gov't has repeatedly voted them down.

Says the gov'ts excuses are weak

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy is reciting a list of examples of numerous other badly drafted laws that have been passed by the current government.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy is underlining that the gov't is requiring amendments to meet a standard of perfection not applied to bills the government wants to pass.

In other words: this is a political choice and the gov't chooses not to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @LordRoyKennedy says that Lords and Commons will continue to hold the gov't to account and he moves his motion to insist on last night's amendment standing as part of the bill.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson If @LordRoyKennedy forces a vote on this, it sets the Lords on a "double insistence" path. If the Commons then rejects the amendment the Bill will be lost.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock now speaking to her amendment to cap costs payable by leaseholders.

She is also emphasising that the gov't has repeatedly broken its promises and has not provided sufficient funds to resolve the issues faced by leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @KathPinnock notes that this is #NotJustCladding and that the gov't support on offer at the moment ignores all these expensive issues.

Says gov't is letting the people who caused this mess walk away with their billions in profits.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @KathPinnock says the gov't inaction on this issue is condemning millions of people to face financial ruin.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @kathpinnock says the Bill is not required to force changes. Says that action is already being taken, so it is no longer urgently necessary to pass the bill.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @KathPinnock says that if the Bill were to fail it would be beneficial. It would buy time for the gov't to develop a proper, comprehensive package to support leaseholders.

Says her revised version of @BishopStAlbans amendment aims to buy the gov't breathing space.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @KathPinnock says that the Bill will neither help leaseholders nor protect the housing market.

Says it will be the beginning of a scandal of bankruptcy and mental illness.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @KathPinnock says she will ask for a vote on her amendment if @LordRoyKennedy's motion does not go to a vote.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton speaking now. Says that gov't is forcing Lords to choose between Grenfell Inquiry recommendations and the "hanging out to dry" of millions of homeowners.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton says that he supports fire safety measures, but not at the expense of creating further problems for people living in buildings at the moment.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton says gov'ts attempt to justify the Fire Safety Bill as a minor updating of the law is not correct. The Bill radically expands the scope of the Fire Safety Order. Says he does not thank the gov't for taking him as a fool.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton says he welcomes @KathPinnock's amendment as it tries to balance the need to pay routine fire safety costs against protecting leaseholders from ruinous remediation costs.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton recalls that Conservative government passed 1984 Building Act, which privatised building control inspections.

Says this has led to the current scandal and it is not limited to cladding.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton says that if the gov't can step in to protect postmasters wrongly jailed then it can, and should, step in to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton dismisses calls for Lords to give way to Commons. Says the fact that the gov't whipped its MPs in the Commons does not mean it has any moral right to force the Lords to concede.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton says he would not be concerned if the #FireSafetyBill failed altogether. It is a bad law. It has taken too long to reach Parliament. There must be a better solution.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans Earl of Lytton says he has heard the calls in the Lords this evening for Peers to give way to the Commons, he will not vote to accept the Commons text of the bill.

Says even if the bill passes he will keep on the case because of the harm being caused by the law.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire speaking now, reminding the House that she is a leaseholder.

Recalls the promises made by Boris Johnson that leaseholders would not have to pay the unaffordable costs of fixing defects. Says she took the PM at his word.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire asks if PM even knows whether his gov't is busy breaking his promises.

Criticises @ChrisPincher's attempt to reduce this to leaseholders complaining about the costs of replacing batteries in fire alarms.

Says the situation is far more serious than that

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says that many first time buyers, may via affordable housing schemes, are being left in harm's way because of the gov'ts inaction on this issue.

Says it is not good enough to expect people to wait for the Building Safety Bill. It will come too late for too many.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says leaseholders are facing costs now. They cannot put them off until the gov't comes up with a scheme.

Says gov't speaks with forked tongue. It intervened in Northern Ireland abortion rules earlier because it chose to do so. It can do the same for leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says the innocent are being left to take the hit for others' failings.

Says @team_greenhalgh must appreciate the Conservative rebels' demands are modest. All they want is to protect leaseholders from bankruptcy.

Says current support is insufficient.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says she wants to test whether gov't is going to be true to its word. Asks if #FireSafetyBill passes what the gov't will do to stop leaseholders from going bankrupt between then and passage of Building Safety Bill?

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @Fox_Claire says leaseholders have many allies in Parliament who will continue to fight for them. Says she hopes gov't will defend leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire Bishop of Rochester speaking in place of @BishopStAlbans. Says that the House does not wish to be in this position, but has no choice but to act because it has been left in an impossible position by the gov't

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire Bishop says that gov't should take up the amendments proposed because they buy time for the government to develop a comprehensive financial solution to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire Bishop reiterates comments of other speakers, noting that leaseholders are already facing ruinous costs even before the law is changed. This is affecting their health and well-being.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire Bishop says that whatever happens this evening, many in Parliament will continue to fight for leaseholders because the issue is not going away.

Says if Bill passes tonight then gov't should rapidly bring forward its plan to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 speaking now. Says he listened to Commons debate earlier to see if he had missed something. Says he wanted to hear gov't reasons in Commons.

Says he discovered that Conservative backbenchers are making exactly the same points that have already been made in Lords.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @RichardNewby3 recalls speeches by @BobBlackman and @neill_bob, who both pointed out the gov't could have drafted its own amendments in the time available.

Says @chrispincher spoke with all the sympathy of a Victorian mill owner.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @RichardNewby3 says @ChrisPincher outdid @team_greenhalgh's channelling of Sir Humphrey Appleby in his absurd excuses for not acting to protect leaseholders.

Says gov't has not offered any degree of certainty as to when or how leaseholders will actually be protected.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @richardnewby3 says that gov't has not given any timetable for any comprehensive scheme to protect leaseholders.

Says @ChrisPincher's absurd suggestion today was that the bill should pass so people could "get on with their lives" when the Bill will, in fact, ruin many lives.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @richardnewby3 criticises gov't indifference to leaseholders' plight.

Says Lords cannot in all conscience pack up now and he urges Peers to support @KathPinnock amendment.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis speaking now. Says, by reference to Alice in Wonderland, gov't has repeatedly and deliberately twisted the meaning of words to avoid acting to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says the gov't has offered minimal promises of things it may do later, on forfeiture and building litigation reforms, but with no concrete plan for action.

Says the fact the gov't needs to deal with forfeiture at all shows desperate position of leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says that the gov'ts promised scheme must be adequate to address the scale of challenges faced by leaseholders.

Says the amendments on offer only does what the gov't itself promises to do, only with a clear timetable for implementation.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis notes that on 10 different occasions Peers have offered legislative solutions to the gov't, each of which the gov't has rejected.

Those amendments have tried to protect leaseholders from costs. Gov't has rejected them using one of 5 standard excuses.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says that after each rejection, the amendments have been revised to respond to the gov't concerns, only to be rejected again for different reasons.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis lists all the reasons why @KathPinnock amendment deals with all of the objections previously raised by @team_greenhalgh, unless the gov't does not propose to bring forward a scheme to meet its previous promises to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says what is really happening is a fight between MHCLG and Treasury over which costs will fall on taxpayer coupled with a lack of desire to fully protect leaseholders, despite the gov't protestations to the contrary.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says House is now in a very unusual position as a result of what is happening. Says Salisbury Convention requires Lords to give way to anything promised by the governing party in its election manifesto.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says that the last Conservative manifesto did promise to protect leaseholders, so passing the amendment would in fact be enacting a Conservative promise to voters.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says the bill will only fail if gov't chooses to reject an amendment that puts into effect its own promises, but which it has nevertheless failed to do.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @Andrew_Adonis says the Lords have a judgment call this evening. Says that this has nothing to do with Commons supremacy over Lords.

Says this is to do with holding the gov't to its promises and to maintain high standards in public life.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh responding says he will not trade Alice in Wonderland anecdotes with @Andrew_Adonis.

Says that it is not true the gov't has done nothing or sat on its hands in relation to the cladding scandal.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh notes he has already achieved £5 billion in funding in the space of a year. That is a big achievement.

Indeed, it is. But it is not enough. And it is not enough because the gov't has not got a grip of this issue, as happened in Australia.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh says he has spent a lot of time cajoling building owners to move and to address the cladding scandal.

Says he disagrees with Lord Lytton that the changes to the law are not necessary. Says some Fire & Rescue services refuse to act because of uncertainty.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh again ignores the effect of his own gov'ts Advice Notes and NFCC Waking Watch guidance and demands by insurers, all of which have already forced the very action the Bill seeks to force.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh reels off the standard list of objections to the amendments moved, again reciting the leaseholders v. taxpayers argument, that the amendments are too vague, that they will lead to litigation, that it will delay remedial work.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh's excuses are absurd, bizarre and baseless. This boils down to a political choice. A political choice the gov't refuses to make.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh says he notes @LordRoyKennedy is unlikely to seek a vote on his motion to insist on last night's amendment.

Responds to @KathPinnock's amendment. Says that this would prevent leaseholders from being made responsible for paying for structural damage they cause.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh is reading from a speech doubtless prepared by civil servants. It is a shame those civil servants have not put as much effort into protecting leaseholders as they have in attacking the amendments put forward.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh says the gov'ts financing scheme (aka #forcedloans) do not require new legislation. Says the only thing that would require legislation is the new High Rise Levy/Developer Tax.

Says this does not need the Building Safety Bill.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @team_greenhalgh appears to be contradicting what the gov't has said the last few days, which appeared to indicate that the Building Safety Bill would be required to put in financial support schemes for leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @LordRoyKennedy responds. Notes that, as last night, not a single backbench Conservative Peer has spoken in support of the gov't. Says what gov't proposes is a disgrace.

Again condemns gov't for running down the clock instead of engaging constructively.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @LordRoyKennedy says nothing @team_greenhalgh has said delivers on previous promises from the PM.

Says that he will not force a vote this evening because it will not change anything. Says that gov't is not listening and no vote will change that.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @LordRoyKennedy says that this issue is not going away. Says that PM and his gov't will eventually be dragged kicking and screaming into providing a solution to protect leaseholders.

Attention now switches to whether @KathPinnock amendment will pass a vote in Lords.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @LordRoyKennedy concludes his speech by reciting quotes from Boris Johnson in which he promised to protect leaseholders.

Says regardless of what happens tonight, the gov't will eventually be held to account.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @KathPinnock notes this is fourth time the Lords have debated leaseholder protection and that @team_greenahlgh's excuses have not changed.

Says it was the gov'ts duty to address the horrendous issues faced by leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @KathPinnock says that gov'ts promises of action via the Building Safety Bill are no good. Time is of the essence for leaseholders. Says people are being thrown to the wolves to pay for the mistakes of others.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @kathpinnock says responsibility lies solely with builders and the construction industry for this construction scandal.

Says that she wishes @team_greenhalgh would do something to protect leaseholders.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @KathPinnock notes that when the Earl of Lytton is refusing to vote with the gov't it shows how badly the gov't has got this wrong.

Repeats that leaseholders are the ones who have done everything right and nothing wrong.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis @KathPinnock says it is unacceptable that the gov't is forcing leaseholders to pay costs they should not have to pay.

Is moving a vote on her amendment to protect leaseholders and tenants.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill there will now be a vote on @KathPinnock amendment to protect leaseholders.

We should get the results in about 10 minutes.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill last night the Lords voted by a majority of 82 to insert leaseholder protection.

It will be interesting to see what the vote is tonight.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill as this is not the same as an amendment sent to the Commons before, there will be no question of the bill failing for double insistence.

If the amendment passes, it will be up to the gov't whether it sends the bill back to the Lords or accepts the amendment.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill we can expect the results shortly.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill: Lords votes 153 to 242 so the amendment fails by a majority of 89.

The Bill is passed without leaseholder protection.

It will now go forward for Royal Assent.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill: so a disappointing result for leaseholders, who will rightly be very angry at being let down by the gov't again.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill it is important to remember that the fight is not over yet. Not by a long way.

The Fire Safety Act will not actually come into force for several months, meaning that the status quo will continue for at least a while.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill there will be other opportunities to press the government into protecting leaseholders.

One glimmer of hope is that under the new law there will be a much more sophisticated system for assessing fire risk than the current EWS1

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill under this new system, there will be a much more sophisticated assessment of risk. This will hopefully allow many lower-risk buildings to be taken out of scope.

This is what should have happened 4 years ago, but will hopefully happen now.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill: And as many politicians have said today, this issue is going nowhere. Leaseholders' interests will continue to be pushed until the government acts to protect them.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill Tonight's conclusion was inevitable. The gov't refused to budge. It has been given a great bloody nose. It's reputation in the eyes of millions of voters has been tarnished. Perhaps the effects of this will be seen in next week's local election results.

@nbdbuk @LordRoyKennedy @ChrisPincher @team_greenhalgh @LiamFox @PBottomleyMP @LabourSJ @Royston_Smith @hilarybennmp @timfarron @BobBlackman @CommonsHCLG @BarryGardiner @neill_bob @SDoughtyMP @RuthCadbury @PaulBlomfieldMP @BorisJohnson @KathPinnock @BishopStAlbans @Fox_Claire @RichardNewby3 @Andrew_Adonis #FireSafetyBill so please keep up your fight for protection and for the government to honour its many past promises that leaseholders should not have to pay.

Signing off for now.