Age 739 (one of these days I’ll hit the 740s): with the destruction of their adopted home world, the Saiyans of U7 are reduced to a mere handful of survivors: Prince Vegeta IV, Nappa, and Bardock’s two sons, Raditz and Goku (née Kakarot) #HistoryofEver
And Vegeta’s younger brother, Tarble
And Paragus and Broly
And other Paragus and other Broly
And Goku Black
And time-traveling Bardock and the oh-so-mysterious Masked Saiyan
And these two guys, whoever the heck they are
?!?!??!!??!!!???
But all of these people are definitely dead. So far as we know.
To close out the whole “destruction of Planet Vegeta” topic, some final notes on chronology. DBS: Broly opens with the caption “41 years ago”, leading into Cold’s arrival on Planet Vegeta and Broly’s exile. Then it jumps forward five years, to the planet’s destruction.
After the fireworks, we get the year scroller which starts at 737 and goes to 775 before finally settling on “the present”, the implication being that the main events of the film take place at some point past the year 775.
Even without trying to fit this in with dates given elsewhere, the film’s chronology is internally inconsistent: if the opening scene is both 41 years ago and 5 years before 737, this should make “the present” 773 rather than sometime after 775.
It seems likely that “41 years ago” was originally meant to refer to Planet Vegeta’s destruction rather than Broly’s exile 5 years earlier. In BoG Beerus has slept 39 years (implicitly not long before the planet’s demise) and a 2 year gap between BoG and DBS: Broly roughly fits
41 years after 739 would be 780, Bra’s official birth year and so by extension the year of the Tournament of Power, which is consistent with the film’s “present day” scenes being set not too long after the tournament. 780 is also 2 years after 778, BoG’s official date
With all that in mind, if you’re OK ignoring most of the onscreen years in DBS: Broly, the timeline looks something like this:
732: Vegeta born
734: Cold retires, Broly exiled
736~737: Goku born
739: Planet Vegeta destroyed
749: Goku meets Bulma
778: BoG
780: ToP, DBS: Broly
On the other hand, if you’re not comfortable ignoring the years shown onscreen in DBS: Broly, we can keep 737 for Planet Vegeta’s destruction and calculate from there, although getting the “41 years” thing to work still seems hopeless.
And that’s my TED Talk! If there’s anything I left out, screw it.
On Tuesday: the grandfather clause!
Thanks to @DBReduxTDC for help with Broly chronology and whatnot
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It’s already November 20th in Japan, which means Dragon Ball has officially reached its 40th anniversary. In case you weren’t paying attention and/or born at the time, here are some highlights from the first 40 years of DB history… #DragonBall40th
1984: gag manga superstar Akira Toriyama concludes megahit Dr. Slump, and in November debuts its follow-up in Weekly Jump. This Journey to the West-inspired kung-fu adventure kicks off as inventor girl Bulma recruits monkey boy Goku to track down the titular dragon balls.
1985: after last year’s tail-end teaser, things begin in earnest. The initial “quest for the dragon balls” arc wraps up in May, and Toriyama shifts gears to a tournament arc (always a fan favorite in his Dr. Slump days) with the lecherous Roshi and Goku’s new cueball-esque BFF.
According to Bunshun Online, Dragon Room head honcho Akio Iyoku has stepped down from Shueisha and established his own company, Capsule Corporation Tokyo. Supposedly he wants Shueisha to keep DB’s manga publishing rights but for CC Tokyo to handle DB games/anime/etc.
As you might imagine, Shueisha is reluctant to part with DB to any extent, and negotiations are still ongoing. According to this article, anyway. Shueisha has apparently confirmed that Iyoku is stepping down, but not confirmed any of the particulars so far.
Bunshun Online reached out to Toriyama and asked if he would be working with Iyoku in future, but Toriyama said he couldn’t comment publicly, only through Shueisha. He also said the company name “Capsule Corporation Tokyo” was Iyoku’s idea, not his own.
Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai ep.41: Pissed Myst’s great and the logistics of Dai’s sword are interesting, while the castle’s just there to be knocked down. But it knocks down well. 4/5 #DragonQuest#ep41
Rewatching the DBS panel, there’s a few things I want to note about the subtitles. They’re fine overall but there’s a few things I think are oversimplified or left out. Going through roughly in order of importance…
When discussing the artwork for New Character 1 and 2, in Japanese Hayashida says how it’s Toriyama’s original artwork, unlike the Piccolo/Pan/etc images that have been developed into full-fledged anime designs. The subtitles instead say it was made before movie production began
Now, it might indeed be true that Toriyama would’ve made the initial artwork before movie production began, but that’s not really what Hayashida is talking about. He’s contrasting this image with the earlier ones shown of Piccolo and co, which weren’t Toriyama’s original artwork
May 15th, Age 767: after three days of rest, Goku recovers from his heart disease (a week earlier than Trunks expected). The situation may be dire, but Goku knows the perfect place where Vegeta and Trunks can finally spend some quality father/son time together... #HistoryofEver
Speaking of quality time, Goku and Chi Chi get a nice moment together in the anime, sharing a kiss far too hot to actually show on screen. Or include in the canon, for that matter.
Alright, so…in the original manga, Goku and Chi Chi are never shown kissing. In DBZ ep.147 they share an offscreen kiss (they later made a figurine based on this). In the DBS anime and manga, Goku claims never to have kissed his wife. Draw your own conclusions.
May 12th, Age 767 (Bad Future Edition): at 10 AM on an island 9km southwest of South City, 17 and 18 begin their assault. Vegeta and co are mowed down, leaving Gohan sole survivor. Even the dragon balls are no use, since Pilaf and co wasted them on a dumb wish. #HistoryofEver
May 12th, Age 767 (Better Future Edition): 19 and 20 appear on schedule, but Our Heroes are ready. Well, Goku gets a bit sick, but Vegeta covers for him. While 19 and 20 don’t last long, 17 and 18 make short work of the gang. And that’s just the beginning of their problems…
Yes, it’s another busy day. May 12th has the honor of being one of the few specific dates mentioned in the series, although the year 767 comes from the Daizenshuu 7 timeline. If there’s any number pun significance to this date, I haven’t been able to find it.