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Apr 30, 2021 12 tweets 5 min read Read on X
Always a great study when tweeted out by Dr. Noakes - let's dive in.

✅2 cases of transmission from bus drivers to passengers up to more than 9 feet/ 3 meters.
✅Genomic confirmation
✅Airflow traced - please see Dr. Noakes original thread for commentary on the method used.
Limitations:
📌Facemask compliance unsure
📌Fomite possible. Not likely
📌Community transmission possible - but not likely
Two trips and two separate van drivers involved.

Both trips - windows closed, ventilation NOT on recirculate, heaters on medium fan.

First trip - 4 patients on 2-hour trips to and from the hospital on December 2, 2020. Driver tested +positive on December 3, 2020.

Van below.
Driver had a high viral burden: 15.9

Driver and all passengers wore cloth facemasks and only interacted during boarding and transportation.
Second trip - The second driver transported 3 patients on the same 2-hour trip in the same van on
January 23, 2021, the day his symptoms began.

Van below.
Driver viral load was high - 24.

Driver was not in a mask, but the passengers were.
What everyone is most interested in - airflow tracing.

Heater on? Smoke released from the driver seat at headrest height rose and flowed toward the back of the van.

When heater and fans were off, no "microspheres" were recovered from the seats or air.

Next tweet method...
I don't remember seeing this exact technique before in any of the studies I've read. Not saying it's not valid at all. Just haven't seen it.
Contact Tracing Method
Genomic Method.
Our take-aways?

👉 #CoVidIsAirborne.
👉 #BetterMasks are necessary.
👉 If you open diagonal windows, you can create an air curtain. Like in this case, passenger and the window directly behind the driver.

In this case, that last bullet point was not possible due to passenger
windows not being able to be opened.

H/T @linseymarr for the air curtain suggestion about 1 million pandemic years ago!

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May 15
These folks refuse to give good real-life advice on how to clean up Hantavirus droppings.

And here we go - a shed with pressed board flooring and mouse droppings.

If I mop? Floor gets ruined.

If I blow it out with safety goggles and an N95 on?

Safely clean. And I
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didn't have to pull everything out to get it done.

Real world aerosol-based solution versus a laboratory fomite-based solution.

@WADeptHealth - join us in the real world where viruses are airborne via aerosols - THROUGH THE AIR.

Or don't and let me gain followers by pointing
out your many many mistakes.

I would prefer to have no followers, and you putting out aerosol-based solutions.

But until then...thank you for being yet another useful tool to let me "gain clout."
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May 14
CDC Influenza A monitoring is up.



They compare to last year's influenza season, and if up 80%? Begin investigating.

There are some latency problems with this, but let's ignore that.

Let's look at the geographic location problem. cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/h…

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The thing is? While it's great to have this effort beginning, it is only covering 600 sites.

For Texas, it is Randall and Potter Counties. And there may be more than one wastewater treatment site in those counties.
Mdp showing Randall and Potter County as wastewater location for Texas panhandle.
Pic showing Randall and Potter County as popup context for map
I walked through every chicken and dairy outbreak from a preprint study that yielded county names.

(Only read if curious, can be skipped).
Read 8 tweets
May 9
@Alexander_Tin @DrJudyStone @MeganMolteni

Questions.

The FDA - monitoring people for 10 days. Which means calling them every day to see how they are. From the APHIS plan 👇.

But, per the Head of the FDA, the CDC is in charge of the workers' health?

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Anyway, they are monitoring for 10 days. But incubation in poultry is 14 days, @DrEricDing.

@HelenBranswell crazy bird flu, right?



They don't know what it is in cows, per them, but they are going to drop it to 10 days because ?

statnews.com/2024/05/09/bir…
aphis.usda.gov/sites/default/…

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(Thank you to @Alexander_Tin for his fantastic notes.)

Back on May 1st, Demetre shared there were 100 people being monitored.

But, in the above article, Colorado has 70 by itself. That was April 26.
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May 8
May 21, 2020, the WHO HQ had ALREADY upgraded to better than the finest hospital's air cleaning.

June 9, 2020. @mvankerkhove @DrMikeRyan @Nyka_eh lied to our faces when they explained why they were sooo confident not masking. Not because it was 1 meter away....

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but because they already knew it was airborne, and they had upgraded to the world's best HVAC.

In this press conference, designed to clarify transmission, they ask each other if other forms of transmission will be found.

Mike was happy to hem and haw about fecal.
Maria was happy to talk about AGPs which only affected HCWs.

Airborne was never discussed.

They look so guilty.

If you click on More, then view transcript, you can search for mask, droplet, etc.

Liars lying.
youtube.com/live/7RcJ2yyNk…
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May 7
Oh ....

The H5N1 investigation is focused on
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fomites and actual droplets.

"....dairy parlor, either through the mechanical transmission, through the milking process, or because there’s continual cleaning going on in the dairy parlor, there are large droplets...."

Despite....
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❌ finding PCR positive lung tissueS. Plural, that's right, plural cows.

❌ Asymptomatic cow to cow (no lesions, no milk, so has to be breathed out.

❌ Jumping from wild bird to cattle, cattle to poultry, poultry back to cattle.
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May 6
That Politico story about H5N1 and a power struggle?

I have been tracking this entire debacle, and we only have Hopium left.

A 🧵 of ❌

❌ @JeffreyZients, @WHCOS is personally interested so that this doesn't blow up before November. This means the

politico.com/news/2024/05/0…
CDC will NOT be pushing for access to farmers.

❌ The states ag board and USDA are under control of big dairy and big beef. So, they want it quiet.

❌ The farmers are worried they'll lose market share, and have to spend money on PPE.

❌ The workers are 51% undocumented.
❌ The vets have already tried to change the name to be less scary.

❌ The consumer does not understand any of the above,, or below.

We know:
❌ The mammary gland/udder can act as a receptor milkshake mixer.

❌ That it is airborne.

❌ Workers are not wearing N95s.***
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